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reculver
09 Jan 13 16:45
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Pulling with one hand/ pushing with the other..,missing the break...drifts like a barge..Laugh

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By:
JetLoneStar
When: 09 Jan 13 16:48
Rancid operation, just one of many blatant cancers in the game - beggars belief how they're allowed get away with it.
By:
reculver
When: 09 Jan 13 16:50
Rocket Rob in the next,lets see if it drifts (and loses) or shortens (and wins)
By:
easygold
When: 09 Jan 13 16:51
It`s Musson more than jockey
By:
halcyon days
When: 09 Jan 13 17:00
And when Noels mob have the dough on...... gets the job done !  Cool
By:
queen bee
When: 09 Jan 13 17:14
Again & again certain jockeys seem to get away with murder at kempton then again them stewards missed pipers piping Shocked
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Jan 13 17:14
DISGRACE
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Jan 13 17:16
They once had him in for a similar ride on Rocket Rob over c/d when explanations were noted, as usual!
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 09 Jan 13 17:17
The reason my betting on AW racing is almost non existent is due people like Donohoe & Musson being allowed to operate.
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:19
oh i'm not the only one that noticed Laugh
By:
queen bee
When: 09 Jan 13 17:19
Everybody notices everyday except those that matter Sad
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 09 Jan 13 17:21
I urge you all to give serious consideration on giving up betting on AW racing. No more AW comps or tips posted on it and keep your money for the better stuff. Lets kill this rancid part of the game off!
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:23
the aw is ok but i'd prefer to stick to 16/1 or bigger, at least you have some leeway.
By:
cosmik debris
When: 09 Jan 13 17:25
so blatant
By:
C.F.KANE
When: 09 Jan 13 17:26
It's all in the form book, lol
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:26
i have a database full of runners that i don't think were ever given a chance recently.

amazing how many are transformed with a good tactical ride when they see some support in the market Whoops


going round the inside held up at wolves off a slow pace is a great way of fecking up a horses chance.
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:27
knowing when they're off is what its all about in the lower grade muck, whatever the track.
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:27
at least going for prices with some of the smaller trainers especially you may be able to get on one that isn't obviously smashed up when they want it.
By:
C.F.KANE
When: 09 Jan 13 17:31
^^^^^^^^^

100% correct

Makes me laugh when i read this "I am doing the cards for tomorrow" bullshine, it's a total & utter waste of time unless you know the horse is trying / fit / well / has eaten up/ had an uninterupted preperation / no bug in yard / jockey wasnt on the lash last night / blood count right / knocked itself in box / had bad trip to track Etc.. Etc.. Etc.., otherwise what is the point really ?

Beggars belief
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Jan 13 17:47
This was from 16th November 2011 over the same C/D, presumably they saw nothing wrong with the ride today...

The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of ROCKET ROB (IRE), ridden by Stevie Donohoe, and trained by Willie Musson, which finished sixth, beaten 3 1/4 lengths. The Stewards interviewed the rider and the trainer. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer who confirmed that the gelding appeared normal post-race. The rider stated his instructions were to drop the horse out, get him running and make an effort in the home straight. He added that the race was run at a fast pace, and that although ROCKET BOB (IRE) responded well to the whip, he did not get the best of runs. The trainer confirmed the instructions, and stated that he was satisfied with the ride the gelding had been given. He added that the gelding was often slow to start. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards noted their explanations.
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 17:58
DATE    RACE CONDITIONS    WGT    RACE OUTCOME    JOCKEY    OR    TS    RPR
    19Sep12       San 5Gd C5Hc 2K    9-4    1/10 (½L, Macdillon9-5) b 5/2F    William Buick    72    *    *
    16Jun12       Bat 6Gd C4Hc 3K    9-6    1/13 (0-0) 11/4F    Stevie Donohoe    70    *    *
    14Jan10       Wol 5St C4Hc 4K    8-13    1/9 (hd, Excellent Show9-0) 4/1    Andrea Atzeni    83    *    *
    22Aug09       San 5GF C43yHc 5K    9-6    1/9 (1¼L, Strictly9-9) 6/4F    Frankie Dettori    77    *    *
    13Aug09       San 5Gd C53yHc 3K    9-5    1/7 (1½L, Night Affair9-9) 2/1F    Frankie Dettori    71    *    *
    23Jul09       Eps 5GF C43yHc 4K    9-1    1/6 (1¼L, Mazzola9-6) 11/4J    Ryan Moore    67    *    *
    16Jun09       Yar 6Gd C63yHc 2K    9-6    1/14 (nse, The Scorching Wind9-1) 8/1    Simon Whitworth    64    *    *
    05Sep08       Kem 6St C52yHc 2K    9-1    1/10 (hd, Sparkling Crystal9-5) 15/8F    Jamie Spencer    64    *    *
    11Aug08       Wol 7St C52yHc 3K    8-3    1/7 (nse, Josiah Bartlett8-1) 3/1    Tadhg O'Shea    62    *    *
    03Jul08       Yar 6GF C62ySl 1K    8-11    1/6 (nk, Come On Buckers9-2) 5/6F    Ted Durcan    —    *    *
By:
stridingedge
When: 09 Jan 13 18:02
horse must try extra hard when the money is down Tongue Out
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 09 Jan 13 18:04
this AW is rancid............its getting worse every week..........whoever is trying the hardest seems to win
By:
dontfckwithme
When: 09 Jan 13 18:20
its the trainers and owners jockeys do what there told or there sacked blame the trainers and owners musson shud be put the stewards room dont blame the jockeys
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 09 Jan 13 18:32
SOME OF THE JOCKS DO THE ODD ONE (PULL) ON THEIR OWN INSTRUCTION..............HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 09 Jan 13 23:21
The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of ROCKET ROB (IRE), ridden by Stevie Donohoe, and trained by Willie Musson, which finished sixth, beaten 3 1/4 lengths. The Stewards interviewed the rider and the trainer. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer who confirmed that the gelding appeared normal post-race. The rider stated his instructions were to drop the horse out, get him running and make an effort in the home straight. He added that the race was run at a fast pace, and that although ROCKET BOB (IRE) responded well to the whip, he did not get the best of runs. The trainer confirmed the instructions, and stated that he was satisfied with the ride the gelding had been given. He added that the gelding was often slow to start. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards noted their explanations.

PMSL Just watched Rocket Rob for the first time, to see what the fuss was all about. Donohoe says the horse "responded well to the whip" - aye, the whip being waved alongside its head, it was never touched once! He made sure his right arm - the one on the blind side from the stands - was all motion but with no actual contact being made.

He said also "he did not get the best of runs" Ha Ha! It never had a horse less than 3 lengths directly in front of it all the way up the straight FFS! He must have sighed when the field parted like the red feckin sea!

When a trainer says he is ´satisfied´ with a ride like that he should be fined heavily.

Of course it won´t be allowed to win next time as too many eyes will be on it now - it´ll be left a gallop short, fed a pie, will miss the break and come home 2nd last...until another day.

Just scandalous.
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 09 Jan 13 23:26
Having said all that, I agree with another poster today who said that its the trainers who should be hit heaviest. They´re the ones who tell the jockey what to do. Journeymen jockeys know they must obey or they will get no more rides.

I remember many years ago a friend, who was an owner, told me that Mark Birch had been telling everyone he knew that one of his mounts would almost certainly win one day up north. Everyone was on big time, needless to say. But when Birch got into the paddock the trainer told him ´not today Mark´ in his thick Yorkshire accent...Unfortunately there was no BF to lay off in those days.
By:
Ell
When: 10 Jan 13 00:10
I'm surprised anyone else noticed Donohoe ..................
.... he's usually at the back behind a wall of horses.

The way to deal with dodgy trainers is to slap 7lb penalties on every horse they train.
Then the owners will go elsewhere.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Jan 13 10:13
Tiptheodds, as pointed out above, that was from Nov, 2011 - not the run last night, for which there was no SE.

But fwiw, I thought the ride last night looked a lot worse. In fact I was quite surprised they had them in on that night in Nov 2011. So surprising given the past history over that very same c/d, no questions were asked last night, imo.
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