So, why should the incoming company pay him anything ? Channel 4 contracted Highflyer to provide racing services so why have channel 4 got to pay him at all ?
So, why should the incoming company pay him anything ? Channel 4 contracted Highflyer to provide racing services so why have channel 4 got to pay him at all ?
Ski-Wiz • January 9, 2013 6:58 PM GMT By looking at the posts so far.......most people on here are incredibly ignorant, naive, envious and jealous. Many also thinks ageism is ok.
Firstly i am surprise he IS 72......thought he was a younger than that.
Secondly IMO he was the best presenter for racing for a long time and still is. Being pushed out is sad news. Other presenters are painfully boring to watch. All they do is stand there and talk into a microphone, they have no personality or character........just dead wood.
Hope he wins.
Good evening John
Ski-Wiz • January 9, 2013 6:58 PM GMTBy looking at the posts so far.......most people on here are incredibly ignorant, naive, envious and jealous. Many also thinks ageism is ok.Firstly i am surprise he IS 72......thought he was a younger than that.
Some might say,"a charmed run",Acey. Channel4 bailed the clueless ponce out when he owed Victor. The worst days work they ever did,imo. The only person he ever helped was himself.
Some might say,"a charmed run",Acey.Channel4 bailed the clueless ponce out when he owed Victor.The worst days work they ever did,imo.The only person he ever helped was himself.
They had him on when he started to simply shout the odds and do the ticktack at the same time, and as he worked his way into the team, they asked for his opinions and he always sided with the punter.
He hasn't always been regarded as a berk, but He did what they all do by hanging on for too long.
They had him on when he started to simply shout the odds and do the ticktack at the same time, and as he worked his way into the team, they asked for his opinions and he always sided with the punter.He hasn't always been regarded as a berk, but He di
Whippin Piccadilly Joined: 02 Mar 07 Replies: 927 09 Jan 13 16:32
Ladcrooks will surely be looking to drop him from their retarded ads now he's no longer a regular fixture on C4 racing.
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Yes this advert just about sums McCririck up. No sense of shame and not an ounce of dignity.
Whippin Piccadilly Joined: 02 Mar 07 Replies: 927 09 Jan 13 16:32 Ladcrooks will surely be looking to drop him from their retarded ads now he's no longer a regular fixture on C4 racing...................Yes this advert just about sums McCririck up.
Dr Crippen • January 9, 2013 7:48 PM GMT They had him on when he started to simply shout the odds and do the ticktack at the same time, and as he worked his way into the team, they asked for his opinions and he always sided with the punter.
He hasn't always been regarded as a berk, but He did what they all do by hanging on for too long.
Just like he did with the Laddies free bet fiasco......his silence was deafening
a rancid,rancid man
Dr Crippen • January 9, 2013 7:48 PM GMTThey had him on when he started to simply shout the odds and do the ticktack at the same time, and as he worked his way into the team, they asked for his opinions and he always sided with the punter.He hasn't
I never found him that bad but a love him or hate him kind of character
He is in the entertainment business..often it is governed by flavour of the month new faces replace old, etc...does not guarantee you a job for life..things like viewer figures, advertising revenue matter retire gracefully imo
I never found him that badbut a love him or hate him kind of characterHe is in the entertainment business..often it is governed by flavour of the monthnew faces replace old, etc...does not guarantee you a job for life..things like viewer figures, adv
Angel Gabrial 09 Jan 13 18:01 Joined: 09 May 05 | Topic/replies: 9,379 | Blogger: Angel Gabrial's blog Check Big Mac out in the 1970`s. He was groovy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK4ifBmkIeU
He looks like David Mitchell with Mutton chops he looks like the bloke who had his head put in a basket in braveheart!
Did someone tell him is was fancy dress? But then, this chap has obviously always looked like a cross between Amos Brearly and Inspector Clouseau.
If Middle-England had pimps, they'd look like McCririck looks in this clip.
Angel GabrialAngel Gabrial09 Jan 13 18:01Joined:09 May 05| Topic/replies: 9,379 | Blogger: Angel Gabrial's blogCheck Big Mac out in the 1970`s. He was groovy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK4ifBmkIeUHe looks like David Mitchell with Mutton chopsh
Jocked off asked why BIG MAC thought Igm was obliged to take him on, THAT COMES DOWN TO A SECTION OF THE EMPLOYMENT ACT KNOWN AS. TUPE Where by a company taking over a contract are obliged in law to offer like for like jobs to employees of company losing contract. You could argue that having kept TANYA that the BETTING RING JOB STILL EXSISTED
Jocked off asked why BIG MAC thought Igm was obliged to take him on,THAT COMES DOWN TO A SECTION OF THE EMPLOYMENT ACT KNOWN AS. TUPEWhere by a company taking over a contract are obliged in law to offer like for like jobs to employees of company los
How dare C4 not want unashamed sexism, horrible misogyny and thoroughly hypocritical and reactionary right wing vitriol spewed out to their audience by a hopelessly faded freak show, imo...
How dare C4 not want unashamed sexism, horrible misogyny and thoroughly hypocritical and reactionary right wing vitriol spewed out to their audience by a hopelessly faded freak show, imo...
Big Mac promoted himself as the 'punters friend' now he is trying to get a job as the 'oldies friend'. Whats the betting some programme respresenting the elderly employs him after this, or because of this?
Big Mac promoted himself as the 'punters friend' now he is trying to get a job as the 'oldies friend'. Whats the betting some programme respresenting the elderly employs him after this, or because of this?
How dare C4 not want unashamed sexism, horrible misogyny and thoroughly hypocritical and reactionary right wing vitriol spewed out to their audience by a hopelessly faded freak show, imo...
I hope it does go to court, and IMG show a nice selection of clips, such as his appearences on Big Brother and Wife Swap, clips from some of his 'performances' on C4, and of course examples of his laughable hypocrisy.
Then they can explain how, after investing significant amounts of money in their new product, how they don't feel he is appropriate to be involved in their coverage in this day and age.
How dare C4 not want unashamed sexism, horrible misogyny and thoroughly hypocritical and reactionary right wing vitriol spewed out to their audience by a hopelessly faded freak show, imo...I hope it does go to court, and IMG show a nice selection of
I'm with Big Mac. Ageism in the modern workplace is real horrible sh*t. More power to home. Hope he wins. Glad he's proposed that some of the potential fees will be used to combat this dispicable workplace crime.
Been working in global finance the last couple of years and I can tell you the sh*t I've encountered purely because someone is older and think they know better than me is a complete joke. Thankfully after cutting my teeth on here for so long on here I just let them dig their own graves. Worked a treat.
If I could actually prove that some of these ol' farts are actually making more than purely becaue of their age and length of service with the company even though I'm destroying them every day then I'd do the same exact thing as Big Mc. Pretty sure I'm right...just cant prove it.
Anyhow...that's just my own personal view on the topic of ageism. you can all go back to hating on Big Mc ;-)
I'm with Big Mac. Ageism in the modern workplace is real horrible sh*t. More power to home. Hope he wins. Glad he's proposed that some of the potential fees will be used to combat this dispicable workplace crime. Been working in global finance the l
I dont think Big Mac thinks he is being discriminated against because he is too young tbh which seems the gist of your post
I dont really see how it can apply to entertainment anyway
I dont think Big Mac thinks he is being discriminated against because he is too young tbhwhich seems the gist of your postI dont really see how it can apply to entertainment anyway
Good luck to the old fella and I can just imagine him at the stand in court waving his arms and pointing at C4 calling the odds in tick tack man fashion, should be one of the best cases in years IMO
Good luck to the old fella and I can just imagine him at the stand in court waving his arms and pointing atC4 calling the odds in tick tack man fashion, should be one of the best cases in years IMO
He's such a phoney and I detest him. I just can't help feeling he's got a good case as he is surely still a big drawcard, as witnessed by the popularity of this thread and the strength of opinions for and against.
He's such a phoney and I detest him. I just can't help feeling he's got a good case as he is surely still a big drawcard, as witnessed by the popularity of this thread and the strength of opinions for and against.
No win no fee means he is highly likely to get a result.
The obvious reason is Rishi (I would not be suprised if he did not have the worst audience data results of all who worked for the BBC and C4).
If his ring job had gone they shopuld still have offered him a similar job if his feed back results were better than someone still employed.
Therefore why could not Big Mac not be given the chance to ask stupid questions to connections after the race, he would excel at it.
I think there are people who have jobs (more than one) who are worse than Big Mac and better presenters who no longer have jobs.
No win no fee means he is highly likely to get a result.The obvious reason is Rishi (I would not be suprised if he did not have the worst audience data results of all who worked for the BBC and C4). If his ring job had gone they shopuld still have of
'Therefore why could not Big Mac not be given the chance to ask stupid questions to connections after the race he would excel at it'
Eont,
You've answered your own question, they would be stupid questions from Big Mac, hopefully the new team will not be carrying out worthless interviews.
People within racing don't want to be interviewed by Mcririck, could end up with no one to talk too meaning we would have to listen more to the expert airtime filler Graham Cunningham.
'Therefore why could not Big Mac not be given the chance to ask stupid questions to connections after the race he would excel at it'Eont,You've answered your own question, they would be stupid questions from Big Mac, hopefully the new team will not b
Holywell, I was saying Big Mac could ask the stupid questions Rishi, Spencer ans Plunkett ask.
If you read the C4 website it seems that Big Mac, Down and Thomo are seriously missed already and more popular than many who have jobs.
If the audience research backed those comments up, Big Mac would have a good case. So would the other two as well (may be they are doing it with less fan fare).
Holywell, I was saying Big Mac could ask the stupid questions Rishi, Spencer ans Plunkett ask. If you read the C4 website it seems that Big Mac, Down and Thomo are seriously missed already and more popular than many who have jobs.If the audience rese
Why does Big Mac think he should have a job for life ? He has said himself that he has been with the programme since the mid 80s.Perhaps the new people viewed him as old hat.I certainly did.Same old same old.Boring.
Why does Big Mac think he should have a job for life ? He has said himself that he has been with the programme since the mid 80s.Perhaps the new people viewed him as old hat.I certainly did.Same old same old.Boring.
it's a sad state of affairs when Mac believes he is the "face of racing".
It is true that the non-racing media often ask him for an opinion to express to the non-racing population.
But when you think they could ask Brough Scott, Peter O'Sullevan, Paul Bittar, Greg Wood, Richard Hoiles, Jim McGrath, Nick Luck.... to name but a few who would be considerably more enlightened on all things racing than Mac.
At least IMG have had the good sense to rectify matters.
it's a sad state of affairs when Mac believes he is the "face of racing".It is true that the non-racing media often ask him for an opinion to express to the non-racing population.But when you think they could ask Brough Scott, Peter O'Sullevan, Paul
Whenever there is a story in racing they always go to Mc Crirrick, I don't know why.Yes people will miss him at first but the new team are there now. Why can't he just accept it? As time has gone by he has made what was a funny informative character into a buffoon and a greedy misguided one at that.
Whenever there is a story in racing they always go to Mc Crirrick, I don't know why.Yes people will miss him at first but the new team are there now. Why can't he just accept it? As time has gone by he has made what was a funny informative character
He was once an award winning journalist who like many others joined the gravy train where of course your principles are compromised. It is sad that the national media always turn to Mcririck when the sport is in the news for the wrong reasons.
He was once an award winning journalist who like many others joined the gravy train where of course your principles are compromised. It is sad that the national media always turn to Mcririck when the sport is in the news for the wrong reasons.
great decision to drop the useless bastard what actually did he give to the show many of us could sit there and tic tac the odds as he does i think he believes he is the last living person who remembers this long lost art no longer needed in the betting ring as a reader of form he was hopeless and his rants about the whip embarrassing when addressing top jockeys and telling them they shouldnt need it i bet he's never had the balls to sit on a horse never mind ride one good riddance one of the most despicable human beings i have ever witnessed
great decision to drop the useless bastard what actually did he give to the show many of us could sit there and tic tac the odds as he does i think he believes he is the last living person who remembers this long lost art no longer needed in the bett
I've no doubt most people who have had to deal with him would agree with Boy Wonder.
Plenty of people will be very happy at his demise, imo, and it's no less than he deserves...
I've no doubt most people who have had to deal with him would agree with Boy Wonder.Plenty of people will be very happy at his demise, imo, and it's no less than he deserves...
Can't understand this at all. He was employed on a rolling contract not as a member of staff. He has no chance of winning and he has put paid to any chance of any future work with the channel if they had a change of heart.
Can't understand this at all. He was employed on a rolling contract not as a member of staff. He has no chance of winning and he has put paid to any chance of any future work with the channel if they had a change of heart.
All sports had their characters,but the shows move on,and changes don't alter the viewing of the sport. Think of Arlott,Johnstone,Lowe,Mc.Claren etc.,all giants in their sports,but it carries on well without them,leaving us with fond memories. I am strongly in the well-rid camp.Big Mac still thinks he is clever when he uses tick tack to emphasise a price,something that disappeared from the courses years ago(Doc,Rocky,Mickey). Listening to him being interviewed on Radio2,he came over as a big-headed know-all,saying he had done this that and tother.He should be told that the game has drastically changed and is run along different lines from yesteryear.Besides which there are others around with a decent television persona that can do the job. He was good for many years,and got fame ,and a great living from his work,and should now bow out gracefully,not in his aggressive manner,with lawsuits.
All sports had their characters,but the shows move on,and changes don't alter the viewing of the sport. Think of Arlott,Johnstone,Lowe,Mc.Claren etc.,all giants in their sports,but it carries on well without them,leaving us with fond memories. I am
I don't hate the guy! In fact I found him mildly amusing when I first got into the game as a 16 year old in the mid 90s. But, the last few years he's become a flustered old man and was making too many mistakes. He was probably not helped by having that crow Tanya on his shoulder. Her voice is like someone scrapping their nails down a blackboard and I think we'd all make mistakes with her wittering on at our sides. She doesn't bring anything to the table and I find the whole person in the betting ring completely outdated. What purpose does it serve to go on about horses being backed or not, hours before the race in question? The ones being backed tend to be the ones put up by Tom Segal or the horse has rattled off 3 wins on the spin without coming off the bridle and the drifters tend to be horses who are trying a new trip, surface or coming back from a long absence. All you need is to keep the betting market (exchange & bookie) up at the side of the screen for the few minutes up to each race start and you can make your own minds up on what's off and not off. Or better still have a changing plus & minus percentage figure by each runners price from when the market first opened.
I don't hate the guy! In fact I found him mildly amusing when I first got into the game as a 16 year old in the mid 90s. But, the last few years he's become a flustered old man and was making too many mistakes. He was probably not helped by having th
Don't know if this is relevant or not but if Big Mac has a case why didn't Arlene Phillips have one against the BBC when she was jocked off Strictly for someone who knew nothing about dancing?
Don't know if this is relevant or not but if Big Mac has a case why didn't Arlene Phillips have one against the BBC when she was jocked off Strictly for someone who knew nothing about dancing?
Knowledge is one part of job,good personality is another important part.Many find Big Mac totally obnoxious,due to his Victorian mannerisms,and Channel 4 probably thought it wasn't worth the gamble sticking with him. Just on this forum alone there are plenty pleased to see him go,says it all.The times they are a changin.
Knowledge is one part of job,good personality is another important part.Many find Big Mac totally obnoxious,due to his Victorian mannerisms,and Channel 4 probably thought it wasn't worth the gamble sticking with him. Just on this forum alone there ar
Arch Thatcherite, free-market merchant who thinks we are all in compettition with each other & believes in survival of the fittest..........goes moaning & whingeing when he loses his cushy job, but said the miners just had to accept it when THATCH shut the pits.......Hope he starves.
Arch Thatcherite, free-market merchant who thinks we are all in compettition with each other & believes in survival of the fittest..........goes moaning & whingeing when he loses his cushy job, but said the miners just had to accept it when THATCH sh
'it's just been on the news that John Mcririck is sueing for unfair dismissal, he's an obnoxious **** whose lucky to be working at his age', one of the other guys, once again no interest in racing said 'he's a right prat'. By the number of posts above you'd think I'd been out on the drink today.
'it's just been on the news that John Mcririck is sueing for unfair dismissal, he's an obnoxious **** whose lucky to be working at his age', one of the other guys, once again no interest in racing said 'he's a right prat'. By the number of posts abov
What a ridicolous world we live in when a freelance contractor can even think of sueing for millions for flimsy reasons. My opinion of the man which was very high has dropped to the basement.
What a ridicolous world we live in when a freelance contractor can even think of sueing for millions for flimsy reasons. My opinion of the man which was very high has dropped to the basement.
Artie every time you post, all I can see is Roy Hattersley, you really are a boring c00nt, arn't you eh. Anyone that jams themselves right up that t0ssers a-re has to be a gimp
Artie every time you post, all I can see is Roy Hattersley, you really area boring c00nt, arn't you eh. Anyone that jams themselves right up that t0ssersa-re has to be a gimp
If he is using something like TUPE to argue his case, it will be the ultimate in hypocrisy as he would normally be railing against what he would perceive as an anti-free-market concept. I am sure after the announcement was made, Big Mac said C4 were within their rights to employ who they wanted and his only gripe was the manner it was done. Have always thought he was a self-serving hypocrit. Looks like he is proving it.
If he is using something like TUPE to argue his case, it will be the ultimate in hypocrisy as he would normally be railing against what he would perceive as an anti-free-market concept.I am sure after the announcement was made, Big Mac said C4 were w
Go on Mac get in to them - anybody who employs Claire Balding deserves to be sued - the only thing shes not doing at the minute is reading the news - but give it time
Go on Mac get in to them - anybody who employs Claire Balding deserves to be sued - the only thing shes not doing at the minute is reading the news - but give it time
It says a lot about the man that he hasn't stopped for one second to ask himself whether the reason he's no longer required is because he is not doing a good enough job, or because the people watching don't actually want him.
They really do think that once they are on the gravy train they are entitled to a job for life, imo...
It says a lot about the man that he hasn't stopped for one second to ask himself whether the reason he's no longer required is because he is not doing a good enough job, or because the people watching don't actually want him.They really do think that
His claim will stand or fall by the terms of his employment contract and the nature of his "dismissal". It is very likely that the outcome will have little to do with how "good" (or otherwise) he was at his job.
For me, I am totally indifferent to the outcome, but I wish him every success in his continued efforts in exposing his irrelevance and incompetence.
Some wasted time going on here. His claim will stand or fall by the terms of his employment contract and the nature of his "dismissal". It is very likely that the outcome will have little to do with how "good" (or otherwise) he was at his job. For me
If he was engaged under a service contract he wouldn't be an employee - most celebrities (sic) signed them to avoid PAYE - his claim will fail at the first hurdle
If he was engaged under a service contract he wouldn't be an employee - most celebrities (sic) signed them to avoid PAYE - his claim will fail at the first hurdle
mac knows he has'nt been sacked for being too old.he's been sacked for being too sexist,and by a bra burning feminist who should be at home doing some cleaning and cooking probably.i will miss him,good luck mac,i knew it was the thin end of the wedge when they were allowed the vote
mac knows he has'nt been sacked for being too old.he's been sacked for being too sexist,and by a bra burning feminist who should be at home doing some cleaning and cooking probably.i will miss him,good luck mac,i knew it was the thin end of the wedge
Thanks for the contribution Geordie. This is not quite as simple as you think, but then you couldn't be bothered to research the issue or even read even the recent parts of the thread.
Thanks for the contribution Geordie. This is not quite as simple as you think, but then you couldn't be bothered to research the issue or even read even the recent parts of the thread.
Win or lose his legal battle I think the next step for Mcririck would be to write a book. Now he's fallen off the gravy train he could take the opportunity to share his life in racing with the great unwashed and importantly to Mac trouser a few quid.
Win or lose his legal battle I think the next step for Mcririck would be to write a book. Now he's fallen off the gravy train he could take the opportunity to share his life in racing with the great unwashed and importantly to Mac trouser a few quid.
As I said before this is only about BM getting alternative employment. He's spent his life making easy money standing up for the punters, which is bo ll ox, now he will spend his time saying he is standing up for pensioners.Probably on Channel 4.
As I said before this is only about BM getting alternative employment. He's spent his life making easy money standing up for the punters, which is bo ll ox, now he will spend his time saying he is standing up for pensioners.Probably on Channel 4.
To succeed in a discrimination claim you have to show future loss. At 72 what is your future loss? There is no such thing as exemplary damages in a case like this for which he is claiming 2.5M, if successful in his discrimination claim an award can be made for injury to feelings, most of these awards are for a few thousand pounds (Source E Lang employment lawyer Bird & Bird Todays RP) Looks like his no win no fee Lawyers are doing it for free publicity
To succeed in a discrimination claim you have to show future loss. At 72 what is your future loss?There is no such thing as exemplary damages in a case like this for which he is claiming 2.5M, if successful in his discrimination claim an award can be