two bookmakers betting in the old silver ring at hereford

Looks like too many in the main ring,lots of umbrellas.

aye , and most betfair ones with the name blanked out.

wasn't it Bangor morning, Warwick NH evening, cup final day?

yes , bangor started at 11.00 a.m, don't know about warwick , but used to go to the hereford conservative club to watch the first 75 minutes of the cup final before dashing to the course.
always a good crowd from wales there

I used to go there to watch the Grand National. On the big screen.

Our old allocated pitch in the silver ring was on the bank, facing the track, while the main line was facing away from the track in front of the little stand.  I've never been when there's been any people there tbh.

I went August 1966 or 67, Red Dove won that day.

I was always worried that the horses would slip on the camber going round the parade ring.

No big screen but I watched Last Suspect win the Grand National there ridden by Hywel Davies in 1985.

used to bet in silver ring boxing day at hereford..happy days

you can see the theme developing here
cup final day ..SATURDAY... good attendance
grand national day..SATURDAY...good attendance
boxing day..BANK HOLIDAY...good attendance
whit monday...BANK HOLIDAY...good attendance

not difficult running a racecourse and making a profit is it ?

adge wil we retire from bookmaking or will it retire us?ive hardly been out for weeks(never intended to this winter, have to pick and chose) but ill go to plumpers tomorrow and folkestone wed on the premise sometimes week before crimbo can be workable.i looked at that card at cheltenham yesterday ,overall about 3 4 races you wouldnt want to bet on ad the crowd haviing to pay thru the nose to see 2 or 3 long odds on chances potter round.

i would leave out plumpton as well. card not worth going for.
it does make us all think before leaving the house . i'm not able to go on holiday this winter but i will still only attend a maximum of six days from now to cheltenham week in march

I thought bookmakers were supposed to be in the West Indies for winter.Oh sorry,I forgot,that was in the good old days.Bronzed faces in the ring come the start of the flat.

i would be unbiased but my mother [ aged 91 ] needs constant care now and i can't put her in a home and swan off.
plenty of others will be , though

good to hear adge,91 is a grand age and has to be respected.

and we all do whatever we can for our mothers whilst we have them

adge , 2 xmas parties/piss ups for you this week . Most welcome at both.tomorrow from 1 o'clock at the Balby Park Social and on wednesday a break away party round York meeting at Brigante's from 1 o clock.

i know about tomorrow and i will be there.
now about wednesday..where or what is brigante's [ means nothing to me ]

speak to chris j tomorrow he'll put you on the right path .Pub near the train station in york serving your type of ale and then on a pub crawl !!

that seems to be wednesday taken care of then

adge,

What about Mum?

Steady on adge - everything in moderation. Hope you have a good Christmas - and your mother also.

Have you played on SPOTY market adge ?

thanks democrat, same to you.
i've got carers coming in four times a day , mafia , but i do have to be back to provide the evening cooked meal. train to/from york takes 19 minutes

you souldn't ask , democrat.
wiggins wins 4422
jess wins 4431
mo wins 2521
rest lose [ nick skelton is my worst ]i've been working on it for 51 weeks

Have you got jocky a loser ???

too many books at carlisle today thats for sure !!!! spot the punter seems like a decent book for a change alan lol g/l

might help towards your losses on bradford adge

d-told you that place is a waste of time.The only decent meeting they have on the jumps is the Easter Saturday one otherwise unless you are betting in the first two or three it's useless & there isn't a decent pitch on the rails.

desperate stuff today t mate bet one on the rails and was useless !!! wish the point had been one ....mind why was it called off very early postponement methinks x

Dave
The ground down the far end(towards the railway line)was still waterlogged.Chris Dennis(inspector of the course)said on Thursday it was unraceable in that area,they could have moved onto slightly better ground but it also would have been unraceable after a couple of races.Sensible decision by all concerned to call it off.

The drinks are on adge everyone !!!!

yes , the harder i work at it the luckier i seem to get.
the interesting stat is that andy murray did nothing whatever to attrect votes and got third, so the public will vote for him.
jess may have lost only narrowly because sue barker couldn't keep it quiet that she gets married in the new year
.
get the market up for 2013

check that he won by a landslide 120k votes with murray another 140k behind jess

sickoflayingwinners hope you dont expect to be busy at folkestone on wednesday

Sorry to jump on the thread but I wonder if adge or jimnast could advise me.
Wincanton silver ring only open boxing day and Kempton silver ring only open
26th & 27th.
Is it the full 5x marketing fee for both on top of your badge fee and if so will
Kempton be 5x £15 or 5x £10.

Are you interested in Butts pick 1 adge ? Probably not since you would have to get there on time !

hello unders and overs hope your well and doing better than your football team.

re kempton silver i was told it would be twice the entry for your marketing fee,so therefor i should think wincanton would be just once,really though the agt should be posting these things on there site to avoid any uncertainty.

Thanks jimnast.
I think that makes Kempton £150 for the badge and Wincanton £70.
Where are you heading to boxing day?

As for Arsenal I have opted for a long drive up to Wigan on Saturday
to get out of christmas shopping with the missus and I am starting to
think I would of been better off following her round westfield.

almost certain to go to fontwell,with wincanton 2nd choice ,that however was the case last year and i ended up at kempton,fontwell would have to be very small fields for me to go elsewhere.looking at your two choices i should think wincanton would be different class unless the public think its closed all the time now.

Wincanton was not very good last year but I find Kempton hard work.
I guess I would choose Kempton if they had runners but that is never the case.

See you Wednesday for drinks in York.
What price someone does a wet fart after drinking the real ale in Brigantes?

democrat,
will only listen to nids of 22k and above..expects to get 25k.
what's your pitch worth ?

question 4 our well travelled jimnast here

how many other tracks in the country have FOUR enclosures open all the time

ponte will surely reduce their 4 enclosures down to three enclosures in the next couple of years and that is bound to affect their pick values

jimny where r u ?

So which Ponte ring is your money on to close rlyl. As for the value of Butts no. 1 adge - where did you get those figures from ? I only ended up in the Ring as a result of some chap bidding for me at an auction who wouldn't stop putting his hand up !! Cant remember his name but he has a lot to answer for !!!!!

rlyl

ascot
ponty
chester

someone who enquired with an offer, was told the minimum reqired and rang me to ask my opinion , democrat

required *.....it is worth a good bit more than tatts 16 if that helps imo

And your opinion was adge ? I hope it wasn't affected by you having a vested interest !!!

i said i valued mine at 10k but realistically would not expect more than 7k or 8k if i tried to sell
number one , probably worth half as much again and anyone who had to bet next door to robin only worth half as much accordingly.
i did add that it was worth considerably more than the one currently for sale in tatts
do you agree

Goodwood also has four rings inc Trundle Hill

I have no idea adge. You are in the best position to give a view being able to see things both from a Tatts and Butts point of view. What I would say is that Butts pitches do not come up for sale very often and therefore might be considered to be at a justifiable premium.

just as a matter of interest are ascot heath and trundle hill open for trade by bookmakers at ALL meetings?

thanks ian missed that one

rlyl ascot isnt and i would be amazed if goodwood was.

hi rlyl did ya get my message re saturday ...thanks in advance dave

hi rlyl did ya get my message re saturday ...thanks in advance dave

hi jimnast....just off to el pic for supper

so the only tracks with 4 enclosures trading all the time are chester and ponty ~ sorry to say this but I cannot see ponte doing this beyond the next couple of years ~ I would expect the butts and second ring to merge and then ............... the arguments will begin

no message dd

For the last 25 years at least I've been hearing speculation that Chester will take down the fence between tatts and the Dee Stand but its never happened yet.

enjoy posy staying in ascot this weekend so wont get there till early next year now.

Chester has five rings open at every meeting (Goat Walk).

ian i included that ,the question was enclosures not betting rings.

score draw

jimnast one of the dishes we had was the one you mentioned last week the gambas piri piri...very very good. Very pretty blonde girl waitress who i'd not seen before and the owner were on duty and they almost had a full house.

I'm at ascot on friday and possibly saturday (depends if our racing club horse runs)..give me a clue as to where your pitch is and i'll say hello.

4 rings at the same time ...fakenham

How many rings does Epsom have Derby day?

Christmas - five gold rings !