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This is so difficult but it occurs to me that there wouldn't be a problem if people were basically honest. I used to work in a Supplementary Benefit office in the 70s and, at that time, there were several elderly people in the area who you could not force to claim benefits because they thought it was demeaning.
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It's about time that the problems surrounding Disability Living Allowance were tackled. The self assessment form is a major problem in itself as it forces claimants to exaggerate their disabilities in order to get the benefit. I worked in a Citizens Advice Bureau for 17 years and I can honestly say that the majority of claimants that I dealt with were economical with the truth when talking about the effects of their disabilities.
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Fred Goodwin
Former Royal Bank of Scotland chief executive cost the british taxpayer £40 billion in just a few months then complained when they his knighthood away disability living allowance tends to get paid to the best actors I am afraid |
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I`ve never been on DLA but I have been receiving Incapacity Benefit for about 14 years. This was on a contributory basis as I had worked for 25 years or so previously. I had to give up work or frankly I would have ended up in a mental hospital. I was assessed by doctors with qualifications in mental health 3 times in that period. I have now been assessed for ESA by a halfwit who described herself as a registered nurse,which could mean anything and was evasive when I asked about any further qualifications. My benefit is stopping on Dec 25th. At the age of 62 I am certainly no better than I was and feel that I am implicitly being accused of defrauding the state for 14 years. I shan't starve but I have no intention of signing on and saying I am fit for work. They are penalising genuine cases by far the majority when they should be concentrating on the odd fraudulent ones. Not to mention the tax evaders.
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If it's ATOS doing the assessments, the number of successful claimants will probably reach single figures by the time they're finished.
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unfortunatly its not just the odd fraudulent ones there are thousands of these scroungers out there . having worked in bookies all over the north east you can hear these people planning there next claims . if the government went into any pub,club or bookies anywhere in the country they would see the same people sitting enjoying life having never worked a stroke for years . these are the poeple who blight the benifit system and until its tackled they will continue to cost the honest tax payer instead of the money going to genuin cases .
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[i]if the government went into any pub,club or bookies anywhere in the country they would see the same people sitting enjoying life having never worked a stroke for years .
or they could just read the betfair forum for similar |
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Sadly this will be like traffic wardens who have to get a certain amount of tickets every day, assessors will be pressurised to fail the majority of claimants however genuine, there is going to be a monumental amount of resentment over this.
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wot about the 119 billion they save by not paying carers like me
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Disability Living Allowance needs to be better targeted. Of course many claimants are genuinely suffering from the effects of their disabilities and should receive more financial assistance. But there are many others who exaggerate their level of disability. I used to represent claimants at Disability Appeal Tribunals and I've had them turn up in neck braces, wheelchairs, with crutches and walking sticks having previously seen them in our office without such aids. I even did a home visit on one occasion having been told that the client was severely disabled. I completed the Disability Living Allowance claim form for the client, went to leave, and the client came out with me and walked down the street with me with no difficulty at all. It does need to be tackled.
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Yet more propaganda against the poor and weak
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That`s no doubt pauli,but I am now beginning to wish that I had not told the truth. I am probably still PHYSICALLY capable of doing certain types of job but the physical assessment includes that you are capable of walking up two steps as a one-off ffs.
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Hope you can resolve this salmon. Don`t see the point in targeting people your age. Everywhere i go as you`ll be aware is full of young men with nothing to do.
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Telling the truth isn`t all it`s cracked up to be.
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When my dad had cancer, sadly now dead, the forms he had to fill in were a disgrace. Well, the forms i filled in. The man had worked
7 days a week since the age of 16 and had never had a state benefit in his life. He would not have claimed anything for himself. What annoyed me, was that initially he received the same award as the 19 year old male who had never worked and looked fit as a fiddle. these people should be targeted and made to claim job seekers allowance. Weed out the wasters so that people like Salmon get what they are entitled to. As for the carer's stuff, why should people expect state money for helping family members. Everyone today wants money from the state. |
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The reason , aberdonia, is that they save the state billions because without their help the people they are looking after would become the state's problem. They are the unsung heroes of our society.
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aberdonia 13 Dec 12 12:57
As for the carer's stuff, why should people expect state money for helping family members. Everyone today wants money from the state. So someone who may have to give up work to look after a family member which may well be 24 hour round the clock care should receive nothing ? |
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Also how much would that cost the state to look after the same person ?
Still think family members should receive nowt ? |
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Salmon,obviously I dont know of your personal circumstances but it sounds as if you have a genuine case,why dont you get advice from your local CAB and appeal.
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Fair enough re carers.
i thought that you could get carers allowance. |
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I am intending to appeal.
Local CAB seems to have had it's funding cut as all I get is a recorded message. You only get a month to appeal which is awkward at this time of the year and they are taking their time at the DWP sending me a leaflet I have requested. I am going to bung a short note in saying I am appealing and will build the case later. Unless of course it proves too stressful,which is the Catch 22 they rely on I suspect. |
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salmon - if i can help in any small way just ask. PM me and i`ll send you my email address.
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Ah,good to hear Salmon,my mate is treasurer of our local CAB and he tells me they are inundated with requests for help,I can understand about you not being able to contact them by phone,if you are fit why not pay them a visit,they will be of great help in your appeal.
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ss why is it you do not qualify as a pensioner at 62? And therefore, Pension Credit, as you do qualify for Incapacity Benefit.
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in running liquidity to decrease further then
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No US markets might.
I would be getting OAP if I had a sex change. I downsized a couple of years ago so I have too much capital to get Pension credit. Then there is the massive amount I have won on here ![]() |
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I had too much capital until my ex missus hired Fiona Shackleton as her divorce lawyer, (true)
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ATOS
= Pure sharks & toSS*rs Target is performance related They target you & if your performance can manage one off exercises Out the door & find work Whats worse Docs are believing this tosh Even though they sign you off How does that work ![]() |
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My GP thinks it's bollox tbf. It's the bloody govt trying to look tough. And I think it is correct that Atos have targets to meet though no-one will say so.
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Hatters, I had an ATHOS assesment by a nurse?? this year, after surgery on my shoulder, followed by Spinal surgery, and full knee replacement, (not long before the assesment) + other more minor surgery, so quite a bit of metal in my body,all in the space of a few years. Passed fit for work, I have applied for a job as a magnet tester in my local scrap yard.
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Know the feeling box
Been there ![]() |
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the government are playing the numbers game chuck about 50% off dla
hope 50% of these dont appeal, hope another 30% lose their appeal and make it much harder for anybody to get on the new replacement benefit theres a start to getting it under control rightfully or wrongly |
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One of my mates went to A****S and they said to him that his condition was clearly improving as he'd managed to get to an interview!
He had no fcukin' choice as they've stopped their home visits (which he requested) and would just cancel his benefit if he didn't show up! He was assessed as fine & dandy but he appealed and at his tribunal, they were puzzled why he was even there! ![]() They're on bonuses for REJECTING claimants...there was a documentary on TV a couple of months ago and there was a clear agenda, though of course it was strongly rebuffed - foreign companies making a packet of tax-payers money at the expense of the poor & vulnerable! There's always the other side of the coin, in that the woman my mate was living with thought she'd get a piece of the action too, and with a few tears, convinced them she was still devastated & depressed after a miscarriage twenty years ago - she's getting a decent wedge whilst genuine people get fcuk all! As someone said before...it seems to be about how good an actor you are and the exaggerations of the 'symptoms' they claim! |
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*** = ATÓSSERS
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The difficulty with that is that a lot of people like me find the whole appeal thing extremely stressful when stress is what has caused most of our problems in the first place. Because of that I MIGHT not go through with it because I won't starve until I get my OAP in early 2015 but some will.
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That's what the fcukers rely on SS...persevere and good luck to you
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It used to be easy to fake mental illness, you just had tell your doctor that you were considering killing yourself.
Now you have to prove it. Oops, and another one bites the dust. |
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DLA is a farce and claimed by many malingerers that is true!!!. However, they need to make sure that the people who should have it for bona fide reasons ie. diabilities that impair their sight movement etc.keep it.The other thing is some poor kids suffer where there parents drink, smoke or gamble the benefits and sometimes these yougsters revert to crime. The cyrcle needs to be cut somehow
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Thats exactly what they want you to do SS
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