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So this "Free market" only applies in certain areas?? All the warm places seem to be banning it
cyprus is a nice place to be on betfair and they wont be banning it
Don't bet on it cyprusal ....
The company has lodged a complaint with the European Commission arguing that legislation passed in July is discriminatory and disproportionate. Martin Cruddace, chief legal and regulatory officer at Betfair, said: “Having played a constructive role in the preparatory phase of a draft Cypriot law, we were disappointed with the inclusion of elements within it which could unfairly discriminate Betfair and in any event are clearly incompatible with EU law.”
The new law restricts the ability of betting exchanges, such as Betfair, which operate by allowing punters to bet against each other, creating their own odds rather than a market created by a bookie.
The Cypriot government has argued that the new legislation is needed to combat money laundering and match-fixing. Betfair has countered it will do no such thing, describing the concerns as “unfounded and misinformed” and accusing the government of producing no evidence to back up its claims.
“Betfair is a transparent and responsible operator, with a track record of working co-operatively alongside governments in any jurisdiction in which it operates,” Mr Cruddace said. “Current Cypriot law goes against European free-market principles and we look forward to working with the commission and the Cypriot government so we can continue to provide our Cypriot customers with Betfair’s best-in-class Exchange product and odds value.”
A source close to the company said Betfair was determined to fight the ruling as it felt it was discriminatory given the fact the company’s main competitor in Cyprus, OPAP, would not be affected by the new law. Betfair continues to operate in the country while it appeals against the decision by Cyprus to the EC. The new legislation will have to go back to the Cyprus parliament before it comes into law.
The company has lodged a complaint with the European Commission arguing that legislation passed in July is discriminatory and disproportionate. Martin Cruddace, chief legal and regulatory officer at Betfair, said: “Having played a constructive role in the preparatory phase of a draft Cypriot law, we were disappointed with the inclusion of elements within it which could unfairly discriminate Betfair and in any event are clearly incompatible with EU law.”
The new law restricts the ability of betting exchanges, such as Betfair, which operate by allowing punters to bet against each other, creating their own odds rather than a market created by a bookie.
The Cypriot government has argued that the new legislation is needed to combat money laundering and match-fixing. Betfair has countered it will do no such thing, describing the concerns as “unfounded and misinformed” and accusing the government of producing no evidence to back up its claims.
“Betfair is a transparent and responsible operator, with a track record of working co-operatively alongside governments in any jurisdiction in which it operates,” Mr Cruddace said. “Current Cypriot law goes against European free-market principles and we look forward to working with the commission and the Cypriot government so we can continue to provide our Cypriot customers with Betfair’s best-in-class Exchange product and odds value.”
A source close to the company said Betfair was determined to fight the ruling as it felt it was discriminatory given the fact the company’s main competitor in Cyprus, OPAP, would not be affected by the new law. Betfair continues to operate in the country while it appeals against the decision by Cyprus to the EC. The new legislation will have to go back to the Cyprus parliament before it comes into law.
The new legislation will have to go back to the Cyprus parliament before it comes into law.
Should be OK for ar least another five years then
Should be OK for ar least another five years then
Yet again the above struggle by the Betfair company to be allowed to operate freely while another type
of gambling format or company or companies has supreme control over the political decision making processes it
seems alway sin their favor , or freedoms to operate .
So much for the European dream that allows for a better Europe when in reality it burdens member states
with over regulation and then"kicks the crutches away" from countries that cant tow the line
over interest payments while the German bank and economy grows stronger every day at a rate that
cant be matched by its so called equals within Europe.
Hard times for some with restrictions and great times for others does not underline
either a free world nor a free market IMVHO.....
of gambling format or company or companies has supreme control over the political decision making processes it
seems alway sin their favor , or freedoms to operate .
So much for the European dream that allows for a better Europe when in reality it burdens member states
with over regulation and then"kicks the crutches away" from countries that cant tow the line
over interest payments while the German bank and economy grows stronger every day at a rate that
cant be matched by its so called equals within Europe.
Hard times for some with restrictions and great times for others does not underline
either a free world nor a free market IMVHO.....
Australia is controlled by its own Horse racing body always to be in its favor
The Australian goverment in its wisdom has decided that a sporting exchange
is actually a traditinal bookmaker and can survive by paying a fixed
amount of betting turnover that can in reality damage completly
the livihood of an exchange unfairly againts advanteaged other companies.
America is controlled by its casino giants and all gambling legislation
always goes in the connected companies favor.
No company can operate
from outside the USA and let US citizens place a single dollar while
888 , a part of a casino giant has won exclusive rights to have
gambling in certain states over the internet.
The Australian goverment in its wisdom has decided that a sporting exchange
is actually a traditinal bookmaker and can survive by paying a fixed
amount of betting turnover that can in reality damage completly
the livihood of an exchange unfairly againts advanteaged other companies.
America is controlled by its casino giants and all gambling legislation
always goes in the connected companies favor.
No company can operate
from outside the USA and let US citizens place a single dollar while
888 , a part of a casino giant has won exclusive rights to have
gambling in certain states over the internet.
2 countries with bigot type behavior and many more exist out there as we all know!
Nevertheless,you can understand Countries taking the view that they would rather take the profits than BF.
How do you inerpret the actions of Govermants as the views of the coutries
or its peoples?
When did this fine destinction of freedom of choice ever get passed ?
or its peoples?
When did this fine destinction of freedom of choice ever get passed ?
BF is the only socail betting company in the world that florishes, but it is treated like
Facebook is in China!
Facebook is in China!
Most countries in the World harp on about free markets and a free world but live in
fear of losing control by its peoples, a fact of life!
fear of losing control by its peoples, a fact of life!
With some imagination Betfair is available everywhere. It really is amazing that an innovative company like Betfair is banned yet these countries promote huge state takeout racing options and various non skilled, high take out lotteries. That is why Europe is on the brink of collapse.
Quite correct NOW WE KNOW.
The Euro has burdened many countries to trade at a loss with its customers and now no one wants
to go to Spain or other countries on holiday as when your cash gets turned into Euros its worthless
compared to its real value within that countries economy...
The Euro has burdened many countries to trade at a loss with its customers and now no one wants
to go to Spain or other countries on holiday as when your cash gets turned into Euros its worthless
compared to its real value within that countries economy...
The Nothern European coutries have too tight a grip on the abilty to keep with the Euro
at Southern Europes loss!
at Southern Europes loss!
THe Euro will prove to be a very stupid idea one day!
Says a mental case who lies cheats and tried to flog duff info to people.
liam the lips 30 Nov 12 10:25
Tenerife fine tho
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? - There have been MANY threads on here - since the Legislation changed in June -
Saying that ..... the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.
Tenerife fine tho
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? - There have been MANY threads on here - since the Legislation changed in June -
Saying that ..... the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.
Gandalf if you think I either have anything to "SELL" or would do if I had when I would use my own information
or that I haven't given free advice thats been profitable, then it is you that is dispositional and should
retire from preaching off the top of your orange box!
or that I haven't given free advice thats been profitable, then it is you that is dispositional and should
retire from preaching off the top of your orange box!
More lies, don't you remember your "contact me for my terms" post, and anybody backing your selections, those that weren't aftertimed would be in the red, you're a failure who's a loon and that's all you are along with a lying attention seeker who has attempted to con people. You don't by your own admission back or is this another thing you choose to selectively omit as in above post, you're a loon living in your own fantasy world, if you don't like being reminded of your previous posts that's your problem.
Oh dear can you two clear off and talk via Google - nobody else interested.
Now - is Portugal still OK please?
Now - is Portugal still OK please?
""the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.""
It depends whether you have a clue or not
It depends whether you have a clue or not
another potentially interesting and useful thread ruined by the forum muck spreader bff,must you trawl up an down this place spraying your sh1te on every thread? ffs,have the day off.
Living in the Netherlands, I use a UK IP to watch BBC iPlayer. Could this work for Betfair in banned countries? Obviously you'd need an account in the UK, but if you need to gamble; things should be easy to arrange.
Every country is available, this has been well covered.
Now we Know - fair enough re coverage - but many adults dont come on here nowadays due to the meanderings of the schoolkids and musthaveabets. Please could you tell me whether Portugal is OK or not?
I cannot answer the question of legality but you can still access the site and use it. As stated before there are numerous options.
PairOfSuitedAces Joined: 21 Apr 11
Replies: 15 30 Nov 12 13:17
""the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.""
It depends whether you have a clue or not
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We DO all know about PROXY Servers.... SMART A8SE.
However - The ORIGINAL Post/Qustion is about Kosher Betfair ACCESS
However - there are other stories of gambling sites ALLOWING you to bet via PROXIES - whilst you LOSE - BUT then NOT paying out and confiscating BALANCES IF you should Win.
Replies: 15 30 Nov 12 13:17
""the Betfair EXCHANGE is unavailable in both Spain and the CANARIES Islands.""
It depends whether you have a clue or not
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We DO all know about PROXY Servers.... SMART A8SE.
However - The ORIGINAL Post/Qustion is about Kosher Betfair ACCESS
However - there are other stories of gambling sites ALLOWING you to bet via PROXIES - whilst you LOSE - BUT then NOT paying out and confiscating BALANCES IF you should Win.
AS I LOSE ALL MY MONEY GAMBLING ,I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO OTHER COUNTRIES SO IT DOESNT AFFECT ME
""However - The ORIGINAL Post/Qustion is about Kosher Betfair ACCESS""
No it isn't - it just asks where you can use Betfair.
No it isn't - it just asks where you can use Betfair.
YES THATS ALL IM WORRIED ABOUT ,SO LONG AS IVE GOT SOME WHERE IN THE U K TO LOSE IT IM NOT BOTHERED
PairOfSuitedAces -
Given your intimated methods of Access.
The same question could be asked about smoking Crack Cocaine. ......
If you know where the appropriate sh!tty 'Dark Corner' is.
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Answer the poster properly - or NOT at all .... instead of being an aforementioned, 'keeping the sneaky ways to myself', smart A8rse respondent.
Given your intimated methods of Access.
The same question could be asked about smoking Crack Cocaine. ......
If you know where the appropriate sh!tty 'Dark Corner' is.
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Answer the poster properly - or NOT at all .... instead of being an aforementioned, 'keeping the sneaky ways to myself', smart A8rse respondent.
I didn't even know that the question had been asked before on here so I was definitely not going to say exactly how to do it.
""Answer the poster properly - or NOT at all"" - yeah, just like everyone does on here :-)
Nice to see you admitted you got it wrong.
""Answer the poster properly - or NOT at all"" - yeah, just like everyone does on here :-)
Nice to see you admitted you got it wrong.
hopefully Britain will ban it soon,although Britain is full of crooks who take bribes such as mp's etc
So, where in Europe can you use Betfair now?? .....So much for an open market.........
The question clearly implies accredited access, not "So, where in Europe can you use Betfair now?? ...with a póxy proxy.
Onlooker I think you are wasting your time on this one mate.
The question clearly implies accredited access, not "So, where in Europe can you use Betfair now?? ...with a póxy proxy.
Onlooker I think you are wasting your time on this one mate.
Gladys, I used Betfair in Portugal in September this year. I cannot imagine anything has changed.
bf_fananatic Joined: 17 Jul 11
Replies: 8378 30 Nov 12 10:18
Yet again the above struggle by the Betfair company to be allowed to operate freely while another type
of gambling format or company or companies has supreme control over the political decision making processes it
seems alway sin their favor , or freedoms to operate .
So much for the European dream that allows for a better Europe when in reality it burdens member states
with over regulation and then"kicks the crutches away" from countries that cant tow the line
over interest payments while the German bank and economy grows stronger every day at a rate that
cant be matched by its so called equals within Europe.
Hard times for some with restrictions and great times for others does not underline
either a free world nor a free market IMVHO.....
this is utter nonsense.
Replies: 8378 30 Nov 12 10:18
Yet again the above struggle by the Betfair company to be allowed to operate freely while another type
of gambling format or company or companies has supreme control over the political decision making processes it
seems alway sin their favor , or freedoms to operate .
So much for the European dream that allows for a better Europe when in reality it burdens member states
with over regulation and then"kicks the crutches away" from countries that cant tow the line
over interest payments while the German bank and economy grows stronger every day at a rate that
cant be matched by its so called equals within Europe.
Hard times for some with restrictions and great times for others does not underline
either a free world nor a free market IMVHO.....
this is utter nonsense.
proxy server gets around all the restrictions. personally think there should be some leeway ie if you're just travelling and in / out of the country in a few days then you should have access. Longer stays then denied. If you're a citzen of a country that fully allows it and you use it there 99% of the time then you should be able to use it for a couple of days when not in a permitted zone. but don't think the systems in place are smart enough to keep track and monitor all of that. as i said....any proxy server gets around all of this.
Yes, any proxy server will do for normal betting. However, if you play In-running, you really need a good VPN.
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