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Batman and Robin scooped up at Navan yesterday.
Laddies priced up the race at 426pm Saturday, then 365
moved in at 445pm with the two same races as their 'feature race'
This on a busy day !
Suffice to say I am now 62 / 62 consecutive lays because they are
making it far too obvious where 'false money' is coming from.
205 KEMPTON Alasi
310 KEMPTON Iron Chancellor
Win and Place here comes 64 / 64
Laddies priced up the race at 426pm Saturday, then 365
moved in at 445pm with the two same races as their 'feature race'
This on a busy day !
Suffice to say I am now 62 / 62 consecutive lays because they are
making it far too obvious where 'false money' is coming from.
205 KEMPTON Alasi
310 KEMPTON Iron Chancellor
Win and Place here comes 64 / 64
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Oh, forgot to say that Lads and Sporting Life tipping up George Fenton. We'll see.
Stepturn was a definite trier, fought back to win bravely having been headed.
Yes RJ, I thought that may be the case from the price action in running. Traded at 10.5 before the off too. Seems the difference in prices last night 4.5 and 6 with no movement mean't nothing. Good luck.
All points to fluctuation tonight !
All the bookies are getting involved in both 365 feature races !
Laddies back to normal were first in, Commissioner Gordon is no Nicholas shops hate him Rust !
Sporting Life aka laddies have been sussed by the Riddler.
Steer clear of the 365 9/2 Chestnut Ben in the 150 Newbury and the 9/1 Royale Knight in the
245 Ludlow.
Boy they are pumping Tour Des Champs and VC went big, you cannot confuse me caped crusaders.
All the bookies are getting involved in both 365 feature races !
Laddies back to normal were first in, Commissioner Gordon is no Nicholas shops hate him Rust !
Sporting Life aka laddies have been sussed by the Riddler.
Steer clear of the 365 9/2 Chestnut Ben in the 150 Newbury and the 9/1 Royale Knight in the
245 Ludlow.
Boy they are pumping Tour Des Champs and VC went big, you cannot confuse me caped crusaders.
Chestnut Ben out to 7 and Royale Knight to 17,MOTS you have the evening stitch up
sorted.Really hope there is a shrewd stable out there who will use the likes of
ladcrookes to throw out a non trier message then will smash them to bits!
You have such a following here now and the bookies and betfair are reacting to your
messages,What I am saying is come on just one bent contact,help drift a 5/1 shot to
20/1 and come in late with smackers all over the country to take them for thousands.
sorted.Really hope there is a shrewd stable out there who will use the likes of
ladcrookes to throw out a non trier message then will smash them to bits!
You have such a following here now and the bookies and betfair are reacting to your
messages,What I am saying is come on just one bent contact,help drift a 5/1 shot to
20/1 and come in late with smackers all over the country to take them for thousands.
Chestnut Ben (N/R)
But look at the Rule 4 deduction, they have been able to manipulate!
But look at the Rule 4 deduction, they have been able to manipulate!
Royale Knight N/R too
Mots, you were right again so keep up the good work
Mots, you were right again so keep up the good work
what is it that they know? both being n/r means something not right with horses, so they know information that horses are not right? not illegal but not right.
Hope you all backed 'Tour Des Champs' good old VC they didn't confuse the riddler !
Will keep on track the bookies have all swerved the second 365 race in the 230 but
look at their pathetic attempts in the 200 !
Laddies massive on Ertikaan so there's a non trier, will add Warfare as the 365 tempter,
they also are tempting us with Crew Cut.
What a shambles of odds compiles, percentages all over the place, we have the bookies rolling guys.
So i am saying Warfare and Ertikaan - 1st one unplaced 2nd one not to win.
Will keep on track the bookies have all swerved the second 365 race in the 230 but
look at their pathetic attempts in the 200 !
Laddies massive on Ertikaan so there's a non trier, will add Warfare as the 365 tempter,
they also are tempting us with Crew Cut.
What a shambles of odds compiles, percentages all over the place, we have the bookies rolling guys.
So i am saying Warfare and Ertikaan - 1st one unplaced 2nd one not to win.
Mrs P
Royale Knight ran poorly at the weekend and wasn't a surprise NR.
Royale Knight ran poorly at the weekend and wasn't a surprise NR.
As Trusty highlighted further up the page, you have just found an excellent way to make money and well done for that, clearly seems to work.
but all your cloak and dagger theories are simply not true
carry on the good work though as you are evidently coining at the mo
but all your cloak and dagger theories are simply not true
carry on the good work though as you are evidently coining at the mo
Great call on Tour Des Champs Spotty thought you had given up on tipping winners lol!
So now you are calling for stewards to look at pre running feature races the horses
are being pulled out?????Very strange Mrs Moneybags!!
So now you are calling for stewards to look at pre running feature races the horses
are being pulled out?????Very strange Mrs Moneybags!!
The 2.00 is all down to Hugh Taylor going to tip CUT ACROSS. No wonder they had to slash the odds. What would you do?
Kampai in the 230, will watch this horse with an eagle eye.
I am not prepared to walk into a guessing game with 365 or laddies.
Pretty childish laddies holding back and only WH joining in this morning.
365 cut this to 9/1 late afternoon yesterday, it has snippets of form so you
'caped crusaders' have been outfoxed by the riddler again.
Had laddies gone 11/2 yesterday who is to say I would have got involved.
My advice is to keep one's money in one's pocket in this race and to boycott
all insane machine playing ( however, laddies one's freeze all the time apparently ! )
as the race starts.
I am not prepared to walk into a guessing game with 365 or laddies.
Pretty childish laddies holding back and only WH joining in this morning.
365 cut this to 9/1 late afternoon yesterday, it has snippets of form so you
'caped crusaders' have been outfoxed by the riddler again.
Had laddies gone 11/2 yesterday who is to say I would have got involved.
My advice is to keep one's money in one's pocket in this race and to boycott
all insane machine playing ( however, laddies one's freeze all the time apparently ! )
as the race starts.
Bristol Rover I hardly think Hugh Taylor should be mentioned in the same breath as Spotty.
With pennies in betfair these days how a bookmaker can be scared of a plain old arber like
Taylor is beyond me.All bookies need to do is get in decent traditonal odds compilers and
move prices according to real money and true knowledge of race horses and conditions.
I once stood behind Taylor in the betting ring at Ascot he put 2 quid on a horse!
Scary bloke is Hugh,on course sorts out the men from the boys at big meetings,would hardly say
Hugh is Harry Findlay.
With pennies in betfair these days how a bookmaker can be scared of a plain old arber like
Taylor is beyond me.All bookies need to do is get in decent traditonal odds compilers and
move prices according to real money and true knowledge of race horses and conditions.
I once stood behind Taylor in the betting ring at Ascot he put 2 quid on a horse!
Scary bloke is Hugh,on course sorts out the men from the boys at big meetings,would hardly say
Hugh is Harry Findlay.
Is that true PCstar about him betting £2 
Must have been for the wife or g/f surely?
Must have been for the wife or g/f surely?
I think I am getting to laddies, could they be shaking Gotham City to it's roots !
Since when have they failed to dodge a 365 feature race let alone a whole nights
early prices for the morning !
For the first time this year 365 stand alone in the 420 Wolverhampton.
Is this in the wake off the Eddie Ahern front page story of the post today ?
Should not bookmakers be accountable for false money ?
Should not bookmakers who with hold information that horses are not trying be accountable
for it's actions ?
Is it fair trading ?
Is it bad to lay a horse as a owner, trainer or jockey yet not for a bookmaker to lay a bet
to a honest customer knowing the horse will not win.
I have records of over 120 horses now, a high percentage on here I have predicted NONE have won.
I have no information, I judge form and race conditions, look at the difference in prices and by
a process of elimination work out the 'false' gambles.
Why cannot the Stewards do just that and look at those two 365 feature races closely and decide
themselves who to bring to justice ?
135 Lingfield - Royal Caper first struck me as stand out - but Bubbly Bubbly at 7/1 was the 365 falsie.
My question remains how can so many bookmakers be different in price.
Any decent reader of form can put horses in order of preference, there is not betfairs money to
make a difference as 4 years ago either.
Every single night there is massive differences, are the traders poor, I think not.
It's obvious so obvious bookmakers bit back to curb the arber and now they are stitching up the
genuine punter.
Maybe the favourite will win the 420 Wolverhampton as 365 went 7/4 at 430 pm
There was no indication of any price contraction until 820 pm
Very rare indeed it took that long for the 'caped crusaders' not to cut a horse over 4/1 !
Since when have they failed to dodge a 365 feature race let alone a whole nights
early prices for the morning !
For the first time this year 365 stand alone in the 420 Wolverhampton.
Is this in the wake off the Eddie Ahern front page story of the post today ?
Should not bookmakers be accountable for false money ?
Should not bookmakers who with hold information that horses are not trying be accountable
for it's actions ?
Is it fair trading ?
Is it bad to lay a horse as a owner, trainer or jockey yet not for a bookmaker to lay a bet
to a honest customer knowing the horse will not win.
I have records of over 120 horses now, a high percentage on here I have predicted NONE have won.
I have no information, I judge form and race conditions, look at the difference in prices and by
a process of elimination work out the 'false' gambles.
Why cannot the Stewards do just that and look at those two 365 feature races closely and decide
themselves who to bring to justice ?
135 Lingfield - Royal Caper first struck me as stand out - but Bubbly Bubbly at 7/1 was the 365 falsie.
My question remains how can so many bookmakers be different in price.
Any decent reader of form can put horses in order of preference, there is not betfairs money to
make a difference as 4 years ago either.
Every single night there is massive differences, are the traders poor, I think not.
It's obvious so obvious bookmakers bit back to curb the arber and now they are stitching up the
genuine punter.
Maybe the favourite will win the 420 Wolverhampton as 365 went 7/4 at 430 pm
There was no indication of any price contraction until 820 pm
Very rare indeed it took that long for the 'caped crusaders' not to cut a horse over 4/1 !
Bubbly is a lay according to his rules dunga.
Spotty I fully understand why you deleted your contacts on here,the firm are about rofl!
Amazed too ladcrookes never priced anything up last night and I agree about how everything
has panned out between the bookies,arbers and betfair.You should write a book about this,
I cannot think of any horse racing pundit or gambler who has been consistently right through
his own judgement as you.Loads of narks and muppets roam forums of all kinds but you are
spot on excuse the pun mate.
Spotty I fully understand why you deleted your contacts on here,the firm are about rofl!
Amazed too ladcrookes never priced anything up last night and I agree about how everything
has panned out between the bookies,arbers and betfair.You should write a book about this,
I cannot think of any horse racing pundit or gambler who has been consistently right through
his own judgement as you.Loads of narks and muppets roam forums of all kinds but you are
spot on excuse the pun mate.
fascinating thread.
if the implication here is that these bookies are getting inside info and using it to manipulate markets on horses they know won't win...
where is the info coming from? Are there any trends in which yard these horses are running for, jockeys or owners? Would be really interesting to see the list of horses laid and have a quick peek to identify the sources...
Man
This has to be the best article on the forum Ive long suspected flase favs and false gambles but have never been able to pinpoint them
outstanding
Surely you two aren't for real? Bookies have been manipulating markets (inc false gambles) from day one! Have you never been to a race course and seen the bookies rep sort the price of a horse?
if the implication here is that these bookies are getting inside info and using it to manipulate markets on horses they know won't win...
where is the info coming from? Are there any trends in which yard these horses are running for, jockeys or owners? Would be really interesting to see the list of horses laid and have a quick peek to identify the sources...
Man
This has to be the best article on the forum Ive long suspected flase favs and false gambles but have never been able to pinpoint them
outstanding
Surely you two aren't for real? Bookies have been manipulating markets (inc false gambles) from day one! Have you never been to a race course and seen the bookies rep sort the price of a horse?
I am building a huge 'case file' which shows how bookmakers are using 'evening markets'
to create false gambles.
I needed to gain credibility first and I think with now 139 horses on the trot failing to
win at all prices 4/1 and upward in the 'caped crusader' feature races it begs the question -
Are the bookmakers in question any better than the likes of any jockey found guilty of not trying
to win at the expense of the punter ?
Gun Shot at the OK Coral in my opinion have the best traders in the country. They do not get
involved in the 'evening goings on' and in general trade fairly and openly.
northanlit - a 'maverick' you have me to a tee sir !
PCStar thank you for understanding re- my contacts, there is a serious issue behind this.
3Duckeggs thank you for your comments - this will get even bigger trust me!
to create false gambles.
I needed to gain credibility first and I think with now 139 horses on the trot failing to
win at all prices 4/1 and upward in the 'caped crusader' feature races it begs the question -
Are the bookmakers in question any better than the likes of any jockey found guilty of not trying
to win at the expense of the punter ?
Gun Shot at the OK Coral in my opinion have the best traders in the country. They do not get
involved in the 'evening goings on' and in general trade fairly and openly.
northanlit - a 'maverick' you have me to a tee sir !
PCStar thank you for understanding re- my contacts, there is a serious issue behind this.
3Duckeggs thank you for your comments - this will get even bigger trust me!
3Duckeggs is spot on, MOTS is only bringing a little insight to the less intelligent forum punters, something that the majority of Pro punters and the more intelligent punter understand and works with as the norm on a daily basis.
I can move a price with a few phone calls without a carrot be laid, and to quote 365 who have no real punters (as they are all barred) who probably have a 500 quid liability each horse on the night before markets is not the most reliable angle.
Having said that MOTS has discovered lads skulduggery for himself well done.
I can move a price with a few phone calls without a carrot be laid, and to quote 365 who have no real punters (as they are all barred) who probably have a 500 quid liability each horse on the night before markets is not the most reliable angle.
Having said that MOTS has discovered lads skulduggery for himself well done.
MOTS
How long have has it taken to compile 139 mot out? Just the 2 feature races each day?
How long have has it taken to compile 139 mot out? Just the 2 feature races each day?
3duckeggs I think you miss the point totally
everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do
but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered
try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way
take care and have a nice christmas
everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do
but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered
try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way
take care and have a nice christmas
Somebody had a lumpy £5K on this in one go at about it's lowest price pre-race, wonder who that could have been?
Keep up the good work here lads, not long until the ground breaking expose.
Great thread MOTS 
Anything highlighted today??
Anything highlighted today??
3duckeggs I think you miss the point totally
everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do
but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered
try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way
take care and have a nice christmas
Go back and read my post it's you that's missed the point completely, nor have I said anything against the OP, I'm simply bewildered that people are so amazed at what he's said. Plus I opened my eyes in the early 1990's thanks and explained many methods over 10 years ago how bookies work and it included high profile early price races, so no I will open my mouth thanks.
everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do
but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered
try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way
take care and have a nice christmas
Go back and read my post it's you that's missed the point completely, nor have I said anything against the OP, I'm simply bewildered that people are so amazed at what he's said. Plus I opened my eyes in the early 1990's thanks and explained many methods over 10 years ago how bookies work and it included high profile early price races, so no I will open my mouth thanks.
since mine was one of the comments quoted by 3DUCKEGGS, I note with interest that I've managed to bewilder him!
so here's the situation:
1. bookies manipulating markets on horses they either know, or suspect won't win
2. our hero spots the signals and wins a lot of money.
my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.
130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement involved. I'd still be really interested to see a breakdown of trainer + jockey + owner for each of the horses laid...
if none of that makes any sense and if you're able to spare some precious time, perhaps Mr Egg you could tell me why
so here's the situation:
1. bookies manipulating markets on horses they either know, or suspect won't win
2. our hero spots the signals and wins a lot of money.
my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.
130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement involved. I'd still be really interested to see a breakdown of trainer + jockey + owner for each of the horses laid...
if none of that makes any sense and if you're able to spare some precious time, perhaps Mr Egg you could tell me why
Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.
Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading
Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading
my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.
130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement.
What I find bewildering is the shock of this info. Bewildering if people feel a multi billion pound industry is possibly left a game of change and minds reading form with just a few in built margins for the bookies. It's not and all the big stables are in bed with bookies and some have been for generations. It's all there in fronmt of your eyes everyday when you bet or look at prices. All this info released in the press and the twaddle you hear on ATR. Ninety nine times out of a hundred they are the first to know when it matters in relation to info. They'd do everything they can to increase their profits, including put aways, false gambles call them what you like. I could go on but it's all been said before.
130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement.
What I find bewildering is the shock of this info. Bewildering if people feel a multi billion pound industry is possibly left a game of change and minds reading form with just a few in built margins for the bookies. It's not and all the big stables are in bed with bookies and some have been for generations. It's all there in fronmt of your eyes everyday when you bet or look at prices. All this info released in the press and the twaddle you hear on ATR. Ninety nine times out of a hundred they are the first to know when it matters in relation to info. They'd do everything they can to increase their profits, including put aways, false gambles call them what you like. I could go on but it's all been said before.
mervyn king the governer of the bank of england hardly ever altered interest rates,his logic being ,dont make rash judgements to the latest figures ,just tread a straight path and let everyone else worry about inflation/jobs etc,
read the form yourself and dont react to markets/gossip etc and you wont go far wrong.
read the form yourself and dont react to markets/gossip etc and you wont go far wrong.
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Replies: 89 24 Dec 12 16:48
Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.
Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading
why would they want to you fool,
ones a PLC and ones a privately run company with totally different business models. Its called offering a service with half arsed early compiling and a copying mentality all underpinned by a lack of confidence in prices.
This collusion theory is utterly laughable.
Replies: 89 24 Dec 12 16:48
Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.
Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading
why would they want to you fool,
ones a PLC and ones a privately run company with totally different business models. Its called offering a service with half arsed early compiling and a copying mentality all underpinned by a lack of confidence in prices.
This collusion theory is utterly laughable.
I've just wasted an hour of my life reading this thread. Well back to work watching these kempton lines, The batphone must be busy today as I cant get through.... laughable, well it made me laugh anyway...
I read this thread with a certain curiosity but thought the op & others were getting a little X files about the whole thing and their claims seemed unlikely.
Then all of a sudden corbiewood (the ex stazi, bookies stormtrooper) appears calling you all naive,know nothing fools & dismissing your claims as ludicrous. At that point it became obvious you must be on to something
Then all of a sudden corbiewood (the ex stazi, bookies stormtrooper) appears calling you all naive,know nothing fools & dismissing your claims as ludicrous. At that point it became obvious you must be on to something
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.
insideinfo 25 Dec 12 22:04
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.
corbiewood is a gimpp
MOTS have you got the list of horses involved in this scam,know you are in LA at the moment
but they have internet access in the States!
but they have internet access in the States!
Back from my holidays guys.
My record now stands at 201 and Laddies are still trying to fool the public
with delaying tactics, the 'caped crusaders' are still working in tandem for
sure.
Laughable isn't the word for 365 holding out the 7/1 for both Well Refreshed
and Newton Tonic in the 255 and 330 Plumpton respectively.
Nearly 2 hours in fact as 11/2 and 5/1 were the best prices available with
their counterparts.
Laddies now running scared of me and thus swerving the 365 feature races as my
portfolio gathers pace and the evidence becomes clearer and clearer everyday.
( I will soon post the full details on here including a 13/2 to 25/1 drift on a marked
horse - a certain Albert Hall - this will have the caped crusaders shaking in their
fragile boots )
I repeat if the 'caped crusaders' are using the 4/1 feature race to create false gambles
on horses that they have information that they will not win are they any different from
jockeys and connections laying non triers ?
My record now stands at 201 and Laddies are still trying to fool the public
with delaying tactics, the 'caped crusaders' are still working in tandem for
sure.
Laughable isn't the word for 365 holding out the 7/1 for both Well Refreshed
and Newton Tonic in the 255 and 330 Plumpton respectively.
Nearly 2 hours in fact as 11/2 and 5/1 were the best prices available with
their counterparts.
Laddies now running scared of me and thus swerving the 365 feature races as my
portfolio gathers pace and the evidence becomes clearer and clearer everyday.
( I will soon post the full details on here including a 13/2 to 25/1 drift on a marked
horse - a certain Albert Hall - this will have the caped crusaders shaking in their
fragile boots )
I repeat if the 'caped crusaders' are using the 4/1 feature race to create false gambles
on horses that they have information that they will not win are they any different from
jockeys and connections laying non triers ?
The genius is back!If the bookies excuse for knocking back the day age arber was the fact
that they could themselves lay a horse shorter on betfair with a lesser liability and these
feature races entice punters to bet at 4/1 or over thus giving them a less chance of winning
and the bookie better chance of minipulating the market they are not trading as the gambling
commission states in a fair and open way.If you have facts that prices at crashing falsely and
it is interesting they never drop lower than 4/1 when they do!They are no better as someone who
lays a horse in the know on betfair when they have information.
that they could themselves lay a horse shorter on betfair with a lesser liability and these
feature races entice punters to bet at 4/1 or over thus giving them a less chance of winning
and the bookie better chance of minipulating the market they are not trading as the gambling
commission states in a fair and open way.If you have facts that prices at crashing falsely and
it is interesting they never drop lower than 4/1 when they do!They are no better as someone who
lays a horse in the know on betfair when they have information.
That's the first one from this thread I've laid.
MOTS cant wait till you take this to the police u utter joker..... They'll lock you up son.
Corbieswood jumps up when Spotty's amazing run comes to an end.
What a clueless clown he or she is.
My take on this is that the bookies got running scared of the
information Spotty has to hand and decided to cover up the false
gamble by contacting the contacts and stables and ensuring both horses
would try at ALL COSTS
Two in one day after 200 correct lays makes me think the bookies like
criminals that face charges turn over a new leaf to convince jury's the
otherwise.What a load of plonkers you lot are on here.
What a clueless clown he or she is.
My take on this is that the bookies got running scared of the
information Spotty has to hand and decided to cover up the false
gamble by contacting the contacts and stables and ensuring both horses
would try at ALL COSTS
Two in one day after 200 correct lays makes me think the bookies like
criminals that face charges turn over a new leaf to convince jury's the
otherwise.What a load of plonkers you lot are on here.
Well Refreshed has been subject to late gambles before.
18/11 Fontwell 25/1 available with the books 1.5hrs before the race.
They didn't see it coming that day either.
18/11 Fontwell 25/1 available with the books 1.5hrs before the race.
They didn't see it coming that day either.
Back to the drawing board ?
have paranoid system , send cash.
have paranoid system , send cash.
I received a private message from MOTS this morning.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will
turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100%
proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together
but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their
policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under
dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters
to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it
appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered
betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter
betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops
and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives.
MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before
and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that
had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will
turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100%
proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together
but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their
policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under
dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters
to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it
appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered
betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter
betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops
and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives.
MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before
and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that
had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012.
Corbieswood etc will be made to look fools again who said ladcrookes were gonna buy the purple exchanges,
as in life worth remembering two swallows don't make a summer.
as in life worth remembering two swallows don't make a summer.
Ladcrooks are in bed with parliament as well as stables. They had a box at Chelts with MPs including Louis Mensch who later introduced legislation to increase FOBT limits in shops?
1.01 nothing happens IF you've gone to the papers etc
why did you make this forum post when you had a sure fire way of knowing what horses lose? ludicrous.
1.01 nothing happens IF you've gone to the papers etc
why did you make this forum post when you had a sure fire way of knowing what horses lose? ludicrous.
I have information that for the first time in four weeks laddies will be
first to price up a 365 feature race first.
The 500 Wolverhampton Friday
Followed by a non appearance in the 150 Huntingdon
If you 'caped crusaders' think I was fooled by your two moves
last week ...
THINK AGAIN !
first to price up a 365 feature race first.
The 500 Wolverhampton Friday
Followed by a non appearance in the 150 Huntingdon
If you 'caped crusaders' think I was fooled by your two moves
last week ...
THINK AGAIN !
VC will ensure 365 are in Tommy Cooper land maybe not 'Just like that' but very close ...
At Huntingdon as well 'Gotham City' be warned.
At Huntingdon as well 'Gotham City' be warned.
gay in arms with corbiewood..... He maybe gay, i have no dount but no me. Do you honestly believe these companies are making all their money from 2 horses a day u utter, utter clowns... get a grip of reality.............
PCstar 07 Jan 13 09:42
I received a private message from MOTS this morning.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will
turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100%
proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together
but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their
policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under
dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters
to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it
appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered
betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter
betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops
and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives.
MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before
and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that
had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012.
i love reading this, anymore nuggets lads?
I received a private message from MOTS this morning.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will
turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100%
proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together
but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their
policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under
dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters
to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it
appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered
betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter
betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops
and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives.
MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before
and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that
had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012.
i love reading this, anymore nuggets lads?
Its like the only fools and horses sketch this one. Batman will be unvailed as Delboy - Mots will be Robin lol
Well done on the 150 race Spotty but no need to go cryptic mate there are
enough idiots on this forum:)
enough idiots on this forum:)
and milesthemouse will be catwoman and corbieswood **** galore
The genius strikes again,ladcrookes bow your cheating heads in shame.
Going 9/1 with others at 6 and 7 as Spotty said you went in first,laid
it for a monkey happy dayz
Going 9/1 with others at 6 and 7 as Spotty said you went in first,laid
it for a monkey happy dayz
what happen to the big Friday supplement. You talk **** #fact
Alaskan Bullet 300 Wolverhampton look at the race carefully ...
A complete 'Caped Crusader' stitch up !
STEWARDS TAKE ACTION NOW
Laddies in first and held the price 4 market moves bigger than anyone !!
Typical from the Gotham City boys
A complete 'Caped Crusader' stitch up !
STEWARDS TAKE ACTION NOW
Laddies in first and held the price 4 market moves bigger than anyone !!
Typical from the Gotham City boys
I will be releasing a 126 page document to the press on the 28th of January 2013
A document concerning blatant pricing up of horses in 365 feature races
in twin mode withladdies with the intention of taking money from the consumer when they
have information that horses will not win.
My point is simple.
Why should jockeys and connections be held responsible for laying horses
on the exchanges to lose yet bookmakers who us these two races to lay
horses they have information that they will lose ?
People ask why would they base profit on two races ?
It is simple, why do 365 pick these two races a day ?
It is easier to 'cheat two races' it is obvious.
Creating 'false gambles' in Evening racing was the 'brainchild' of a
later sacked laddies employee.
I will purely list the horses on here, the details I will send to the
press will show times,market moves,exchange movements,the timing of their
prices between the two changed alarmingly when I first highlighted it on here.
When tipsters advertise in the Racing Post they have to 'proof read first' in
other words they have to prove they are successful first.
Betfair is my proof, the 'caped crusaders' have hung themselves with their
write up's er laddies write up's on oddschecker and their syncronised pricing
of the feature races.
A document concerning blatant pricing up of horses in 365 feature races
in twin mode withladdies with the intention of taking money from the consumer when they
have information that horses will not win.
My point is simple.
Why should jockeys and connections be held responsible for laying horses
on the exchanges to lose yet bookmakers who us these two races to lay
horses they have information that they will lose ?
People ask why would they base profit on two races ?
It is simple, why do 365 pick these two races a day ?
It is easier to 'cheat two races' it is obvious.
Creating 'false gambles' in Evening racing was the 'brainchild' of a
later sacked laddies employee.
I will purely list the horses on here, the details I will send to the
press will show times,market moves,exchange movements,the timing of their
prices between the two changed alarmingly when I first highlighted it on here.
When tipsters advertise in the Racing Post they have to 'proof read first' in
other words they have to prove they are successful first.
Betfair is my proof, the 'caped crusaders' have hung themselves with their
write up's er laddies write up's on oddschecker and their syncronised pricing
of the feature races.
Mubtadi 400 Lingfield - a caped crusader special.
A document concerning blatant pricing up of horses in 365 feature races
in twin mode withladdies with the intention of taking money from the consumer when they
have information that horses will not win.
And you have documented proof of this information?
A sworn affidavit from a stable hand perhaps?
A secretly recorded phone conversation where all is revealed?
Still at least your lawyers will be happy
in twin mode withladdies with the intention of taking money from the consumer when they
have information that horses will not win.
And you have documented proof of this information?
A sworn affidavit from a stable hand perhaps?
A secretly recorded phone conversation where all is revealed?
Still at least your lawyers will be happy
what price did they lay mubtadi at last night and this morning because they knew it wouldn't win? 
ROFL Spotty was telling you to back Mubtadi referring to the old
ladcrookes manager specials in the 80's no doubt.I was on at 7.2
Is funny ladcrookes have not priced a 3 pound 65 feature race two
nights running when the damned are damned.
ladcrookes manager specials in the 80's no doubt.I was on at 7.2
Is funny ladcrookes have not priced a 3 pound 65 feature race two
nights running when the damned are damned.
Absolutely brilliant thread MOTS has my utmost respect although still haven't really fathomed out how to arrive at the selections to lay.
PCstar 15 Jan 13 08:47
ROFL Spotty was telling you to back Mubtadi referring to the old
ladcrookes manager specials in the 80's no doubt.I was on at 7.2
Is funny ladcrookes have not priced a 3 pound 65 feature race two
nights running when the damned are damned.
ROFL Spotty was telling you to back Mubtadi referring to the old
ladcrookes manager specials in the 80's no doubt.I was on at 7.2
Is funny ladcrookes have not priced a 3 pound 65 feature race two
nights running when the damned are damned.
Maybe I'm missing something but...
If these two are making it so fkn obvious which horses to lay, why aren't they all being laid like stink on here?
If these two are making it so fkn obvious which horses to lay, why aren't they all being laid like stink on here?
only 12 more sleeps until.......
I will be releasing a 126 page document to the press on the 28th of January 2013
Cant wait
I will be releasing a 126 page document to the press on the 28th of January 2013
Cant wait
we'll all be Rich soon Oz.... MOT you are a complete idiot.
not long til Monday now.... I'm so excited. You'll look a right fool. I really hope this happens and they print your name, possibly even a picture
Just a few things.
1) Have you added to your 126 pages
2) Which papers do you think will print that much literature - obviously it all relevant
3) Who will get done for liable 1st? You or the paper.
$0 unfortuantly you haven't really backed everything up on here. Therefore MOT as you aint posted on here much lately, I think its got a little out of hand. I think you'll realise you're going to look a right p rick trying to prove your some super hero on here.
Just a few things.
1) Have you added to your 126 pages
2) Which papers do you think will print that much literature - obviously it all relevant
3) Who will get done for liable 1st? You or the paper.
$0 unfortuantly you haven't really backed everything up on here. Therefore MOT as you aint posted on here much lately, I think its got a little out of hand. I think you'll realise you're going to look a right p rick trying to prove your some super hero on here.
today is the day, Kay Burley on stand by....
Over to you MOTS.......
Over to you MOTS.......
Has MOTS been silenced by Them
They take no prisoners
They take no prisoners
THE END!
You must not say anything untoward about, 'The Magic Sign'!
Big Brother is Watching You!
Trust me!
You must not say anything untoward about, 'The Magic Sign'!
Big Brother is Watching You!
Trust me!
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