Did Francombe really pop off like this at Frankie ?!

I hope frankie gets the support from his family and friends,it can be a long road in the fight against ones own addictions.

Don't forget alcohol is a drug too,yet because it is openly sold,is fully accepted by the establishment.Yes,I know it musn't be in your blood when undergoing a sport's test,or similar,but double standards exist.And no,I don't ever take drugs,not even an aspirin in the house.

Anyone would think Francome is a Saint.
Was he not warned off for dealing with a bookmaker in his riding days.

Dealing drugs with a bookmaker? That's slanderous nugget.........

I hope frankie gets the support from his family and friends,it can be a long road in the fight against ones own addictions.


where's the implication he has an addiction? it's quite possible to 'indulge' once or twice a year and have absolutely no issue with addiction

its also possible to kill yourself in an instant taking drugs ...i was at a party back in the 70s were 2 of my friends died ....after snorting drugs ...i still find it painful ...for rev and others on here to say theres no harm in taking a snort now and again is imo absolute shyte ....drugs kill ...simple as ....

walos, alcohol the biggest killer among drugs by a mile.

It's highly unlikely Frankie is addicted to this substance Metro. Rather just found him self partying too exuberantly when he shouldn't  have been.

I think it shows tremendous loyalty to Godolphin to have gone to the sheikh and removed himself and therefore the whole issue from their concern when he knew that the test would come back positive. The camelot ride just happened to provide the perfect smokescreen.

i didnt say theres no harm in it workrider, i wouldnt do it myself and theres obviosly a chance, albeit small from my limited knowledge that harm can be done to those who take it. i was talking about it in terms of an offence, which is the sole reason frankie was pulled up by the french stewards. they didnt do it for his general health and well being. i think this, in terms of an offence is next o nothing in my view when compared with corruption

Saying drink is worse than drugs is a bit like saying guns are worse than knives.

Didn't say it was worse, said it kills many more, indisputable.

He would have been better giving to Camelot at Longchamp
...may have run a bit quicker

what the underlying point indicates so far on this topic is frankies a great down to earth guy that has just been caught out taking a class A drug for recreational purposes and francome is a no use bad bad man as he spoke out against the use of drugs.

Frankie deserves everything coming his way and well done to Francome for laying into him

As for his friends they should take him round the back of the weighting room and give a good kicking but we all what will happen he will serve his time be welcomed back with open arms and the write the obligatory book of how tough it was being at the top earning millions of pounds, riding top class horses and travelling 1st class

this thread is about francome as much as dettori. if you did something wrong, would you expect people who call themselves your friend to run to a tabloid and reveal what they think of you in return for cash?

Neither drink or drugs kill in general , both are extremley pleasurable in moderation , its when the are taken to addiction or seen as a medicine for lack of hope they become killers ,

Having had my run ins with both i would say alchohol is far more damaging imo , easy to buy , cheap , tolerated by scociety , so easier to become dependant

Worse as in a worse killer saddo.

Pointing out one thing kills more than something else doesn't make the original thing any less a killer.

Makes it more deadly tho IMA

Cant be any more dangerous than his pasta sauce range

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francombe often parks his car near me in the car arks.
i have often said good morning or hello as he's walked past . he has never looked at me or said a word , just walked past. he clearly believes he is superior and doesn't speak to the likes of me . i just ignore him now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2D3-FkoXNU

Aye , him and lloyd Grossman have done for a few

Won't waste my breath further on this, ima_mazed66, but any drinker who thinks their own recreational drug of choice is better than someone else's, is a smug hypocrite.

drink, drugs, gambling, smoking and women all addictions and if you have all 5 of them well done

this isnt about booze or sniff this is about a professional sportsman taking illegal drugs end of there our no excuses.

From a medical point of view cocaine can clear the system of a fit healthy person in under 6 hours to pass a urine test, so to fail a test after midday has to be of great concern and may indicate a underlying problem with drugs

The procurement of drugs by drug barons etc to sell on to gullible  human beings is the most despicable acts, because of the misery it causes to families etc, the rich are happy to buy and use but addicts will rob and kill to get their hands on it,youngsters in racing and out of racing look up to him he should be ashamed to sent this message that it's ok to take it.IMHO.

Im not sure your right dod , seeing sportsmen like Lance armstrong and frankie have thier careers and ruined and lives dragged through media is quite a deterent to any aspiring young sportsman i would think ,

Cant possibly have done coke anyways, as he stated in his best selling book, the time he got arrested with a small amount on him, it was only there from an 'experiment' & it did nothing for him & he's not touched it since, nor would he,

So that's cleared that up then

is this the same  john francome who was involved with john banks the bookie
all those years ago and got suspended for doing NOTHING WRONG

Yes

only once or twice a year Duncan? (They, us. them. we)All addicts echo that statement Duncan,They can handle it!

You see money and lots of it,is not the happiness answer?When you've been there and done it,what else is there? well ofcourse there is plenty to look forward too,but most of all the interaction between people is the most meaningful.So sad so many who eventually find wealth can't handle it.

I am sure the truth will come to light,it was a pepsi or some Handwash,i just hope no stories of partys, prostitues and orgys(but it would make a good read)

some drugs can facilitate the most meaningful of interactions between people, metro

is this the same frankie that loaded a whip up with lead and attacked a horse beacause it got spooked and injured his best friend? then wrote about it in his book............................................ skeletons in both cupboards me thinks.

duncan ,i agree , the thing is ,the relationship usually ends up in the std department....

gawd the loons on this forum are  out in force he,s a little fact
99.9% of the working population would face instant dismisal for failing a drugs test,and 99.9% of them arnt in control  of half a ton of horse with the responsibilty of the other riders been part of the job.
its akin to lewis hamilton failing a breath test after the british grand prix,or you jumping in the car tonight after drinking 10 pints of guiness,but hey frankies a cool guy so lets attack francome

If i had frankies cash i would be in the back of a limo taking lines of a polish prostitutes tits with another sucking my bell , enjoy your life frankie you only get one

Italian Junkie,not the first sportman and wont be the last.Hope he enjoyed it................................

hello

Lance Armstrong was a different case..he took drugs to enhance his performance

I assume this was for recreational use....
..but it should be clear of his system when riding..
would anyone be happy knowing the jockey riding their pick was high on coke

adge     14 Nov 12 08:53 
francombe often parks his car near me in the car arks.
i have often said good morning or hello as he's walked past . he has never looked at me or said a word , just walked past. he clearly believes he is superior and doesn't speak to the likes of me . i just ignore him now

should he feel the need to stop and indeed speak to you?

he should feel the need to be respectful and say hello back... unless of course in francomes mind hes better than the person being polite to him

Pot.Kettle.Black
Francomb is a prick

Can anyone actually imagine Frankie on coke at a party!! You would have to punch him to stop him talking.

I have never understood the knee jerk reactions around those found to be taking drugs if they are not performance enhancing.

The biggest problem is him being coked up on the horses whether in the yard or on the course. Unlikely though that he was.

A heavy fine , a 6 month ban but not the character assassination which Francome is ignorantly carping on with.

wish you lot would leave your addresses ,theres plenty of coked up kids on the local estate who could do with a few nice houses to knock off knowing they,ll get a symphetic ear on hear,or is it just the spoilt little rich brats who get the benefit of the doubt where drugs are concerned,reminds me of our henrys 2 drink drive escapadesm oh forget it our henrys a nice chap didnt mean any harm,
so when a coke filled drunken twoka mows someone down who you no be gentle with him,

frankie didnt mow anyone down

Not seen Coke-Ed post for a while?

"flag up"

he put the other jockeys and millions of pounds of horse flesh at risk,are you advocating pilots taking drugs and drink before flying as long as they dont crash the plane,you are a muppet of the highest order,
you cant whip a horse 6 times but ride one drunk or high as a kite,

come to think of it suprised some of these jocks didnt use been drunk or high as an exuse of not been able to count to 6,

Some hilarious stuff on here.
Does anyone under the age of 50 on here know of anyone under 50 who has not tried coke?

Dislike  it with a passion personally but some drugs are magnificent in moderation imo (cigars, wine, ecstacy).

The thread is about Francombe. He is charismatic and I love him on tv even though about 90% of his views have less than 1% credability.

Some hilarious stuff on here.
Does anyone under the age of 50 on here know of anyone under 50 who has not tried coke?

Dislike  it with a passion personally but some drugs are magnificent in moderation imo (cigars, wine, ecstacy).

The thread is about Francombe. He is charismatic and I love him on tv even though about 90% of his views have less than 1% credability.

Coke-Ed ended up playing Tracksuit Dave at pool didn`t he??

1st Time Poster

Some of those kids on your estate probably want money for gambling, booze and nice trainers. Are we going to bad mouth these options as well or just ignorant knee jerk reactions to some grown man taking cocaine?

I am jealous of Francomes Hair

think the real lesson here must be that fallon and dettori 2 top jocks,in group 1 races certain to be tested by a tough france gallop regime still went ahead with their drug taking,ayr,catterick,warrick on a monday afternoon must be rife with jockeys high as a kite,

MullahOmar

Never liked coke myself. Ecstasy though is named so for reason.

Been a long time and i am surprised Frankie participated at his age, but still who has he hurt?

its all fallen into place now after a saturday night in coke filled newmarket, no wonder the bhb only put crap cards  on a sunday,

1st Time Poster

You would be feeling slightly groggy by the monday.

No kites and no high.

1st time poster..

any professional sportsman should be clean when he participates in his chosen sport
even if it offers no advantage
and he should be punished if he is not

As for his private life
that is a matter for the individual

i,m 50 odd and like millions of others my age have never tried or even thought about taking drugs,for those weak enough [cameron,osbourne ]not to be able to resist having a dabble by putting us all in the same boat is pathetic

as he was tested on a racecourse its not his private life

i,m 50 odd and like millions of others my age have never tried or even thought about taking drugs,for those weak enough [cameron,osbourne ]not to be able to resist having a dabble by putting us all in the same boat is pathetic

Alcohol is a drug...only accepted because it is taxable and the drug of choice by those who write the law books.

that,ll be 5 more rich kids thinking its cool to do abit of blow and coke as they grow up

^ Are you Amy reincarnate  ?

Looks like Frankie was grassed up someone.

probably something silly like the diet supplement kolo toure got banned for....technically not a performance enhancer.

best wishes to him anyways...hope it all works out. might see a better frankie now he's freed from that lot.

Francome is going to look a bigger chimp if it is only kolo toure.

all statements so far suggest cocaine

Kolo Toure necked a few of his wife`s diet pills, more than like amphetamine based.

hello :-)
14 Nov 12 17:12

If i had frankies cash i would be in the back of a limo taking lines of a polish prostitutes tits with another sucking my bell , enjoy your life frankie you only get one

EastLower Gooner

"probably something silly like a diet supplement...."

Could be I suppose but reports suggest he has failed a test involving cocaine.

A well-placed racing source in Paris told the Evening Standard  that Dettori 'was taken by surprise and shocked when officials demanded a drugs test, following a tip-off from a third party'.

Might be wrong of course, but hardly likely someone tipped them off because he had taken a diet supplement (??????)

should n't BHA be asking itself why our high profile jocks test positive in France but not here - don't we test on Sundays?

sunday is a day of rest rh

They do plenty on hash wednesday.

Sod francome and his holyier than thou attitude , born out of being so far out of touch with reality that the seventies are screaming for thier hair back

I dont mind the odd flaw in my sporting heroes its the squeaky clean quiet ones i dont trust tbh, frankie is human at least

sorry,but frankie has broke the rules AGAIN,i agree with john & trevor007,he sould be made an example!

He deserves to be banned for stupidity, never mind illegal substances. Fancy chucking all that away when he has had such a god name,pillock.

Frankie will be revered long after the ban has passed , and i agree off course he should be banned , but who hasnt broke the rules guys , come on lets get real here

When he got caught before with a small quantity of cocaine in his car about 20 yrs ago, he said,
"It was the kick up the backside I needed."

seems to be some perfectionists posting on this thread. upstanding members of society

he said, "It was the kick up the backside I needed."

The Stevie Nicks method, what a buzz

Hardly ranks alongside Francome as a wrongdoer when you think of the name John Banks imo?

Should give up his dealer to the peelers and start a rehab clinic in Newmarket

so if everybody imn the country started benging it there noses in some peoples eyes thats ok ya 16 year olds came home and said the same thats ok then .....the goverment class coke as a class a drug ....i think some of you  need a reality check ,its just a shame that some oy ya cant get of on good old fashioned adrenalin instead of resorting to szzzhit up ya noses

his mentor barney curley once said about fobts ......there the new crack cocaine ......i wonder what he meant ....i wonder what he thinks now ....perhaps he was referring to crack cocaine as being ADDICTITIVE....to some formites thats okay is it .....****S

Do you enjoy a few pints of "adrenalin" then?

All the self righteous ones on here try this:
Lose three stone over the next year (No christmas pud,no beer,no chips while watching the football while peddling your stationary bike).
Then get up at five every morning for the next thirty years and go to work at whatever it is you do for a living.
Work twelve hour days and become so successful at what you do that you are revered everywhere you go.
And what places you will go.And what temptations. Beautiful women, booze, drugs,la dulce vita.
And during that 30 years never once give in to temptation.
Only then will you have the moral right to criticise anyone who does.
Or as a great man once said not 'until you have walked a hundred miles in that man's shoes'.

ROGGAIN surely youre not describing dettori are you ?
this was no surprse to anybody in newmarket.

saddo
Won't waste my breath further on this, ima_mazed66, but any drinker who thinks their own recreational drug of choice is better than someone else's, is a smug hypocrite.

Couldn't agree more and for the record am teetotal myself but a lot of people play down illegal drugs and their dangers (usually because they take them themselves) and then use the dangers of drink too to try to justify it.

I'm not saying that's what you have done but is why I used the guns and knives analogy earlier.

Roggain, You had me in tears reading that. What a wretched life's he's had, poor little millionaire mite.

lifes? duh!

If you don't do any mind altering substances I respect your views absolutely, ima, it's the hypocrites that get to me.

especially the ones who say "just one moment of madness"
instead of saying "ive been bang on it for years"

I guess it's different for those in the public eye, they can't just say "I like a toot, I'm sorry".

people who have never taken drugs highly suspect i.m.o.

^^^^^

Funnily enough people who make comments like that are highly suspect in my opinion and so might argue maybe even a bit weak and feel inadequate about themselves too.

I'm trying to mimic the absolute hysteria some people express at the notion of 'drugs' - as  the mere mention of the word is a moral call to arms and a beano of knee-jerk reactions : for some.

According to the Daily Mail Frankie's best pal is Ronnie Wood

If you worked in the porn industry and/or mixed within that world you would probably have a different attitude on that kind of thing to those who don't and if it was up to me personally I would legalise all drugs but seeing as though at the moment they are illegal and there is always the crime angle element attached to it, I don't really see why those who don't break the law and don't take them should be seen to be or made out to be the ones who are looked at as if they are the oddballs.

i like whoarish women and decadence , thats just me