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starfish and coffee
23 Sep 12 14:45
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Report racingstar December 15, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
I think that it reasonable to assume the delay is no longer temporary,Doubled.
Report bugs bunny December 16, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
So if betfair live video is as fast as sis have most exchange shops now closed ,or are there any still open in the uk where I could access turf tv
Report 0%profit December 16, 2012 12:40 PM GMT
if you read doubled posts he said will stop at 180 days to give them every chance to correct problemWink
Report DOUBLED December 16, 2012 12:49 PM GMT
.. 85 days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh


Good to see the dog racing taking preference to Horse Racing on the split screen today Shocked

SiS and ATR are rancid bookie fodder Angry
Report andyl December 16, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
racingstar • December 15, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
I think that it reasonable to assume the delay is no longer temporary,Doubled.

Laugh
Report starfish and coffee December 16, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
Would have to disagree with that racingstar. If subscribers kept on constantly complaining and threatened court action with contracts as has been said above then maybe the 'temporary problem' would get fixed.

Sadly as has also already been said most will probably just moan on here and do fk all about it.
Report racingstar December 16, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
Starfish,
SIS do not give a jot about complaints other than from their Core Business (Bookmakers).
Let Biscar take action against them if he wants to (absolute cast 1.01 loser).
Alternatively,he can continue to come on here and bleat in the misguided belief that he is the only one who has talked to SIS.
Report MikeEnfield December 17, 2012 9:47 AM GMT
DOUBLED. Why dont you stop  paying for SIS if its slower than BF LV. I have wrkd out how to watch it in a reasonable size on a second monitor
Report Biscar Two from a mile back December 17, 2012 11:05 AM GMT
racingstar
SIS have altered the service and have admiited so,for that reason it's certainly not 1.01.

They don't care becuse no-one has done anything yet,however if half a million quid in contracts stop paying then they might find an alternative.

btw your spelling seems to have improved have you found spellchecker over the weekend,oh and you are the one bleating
Report DOUBLED December 17, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
.. 86 days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh
Report racingstar December 17, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
Make my day Biscar and have a go.
You never know,you might not be the clueless cretin I think you are.
Report Biscar Two from a mile back December 17, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
Racingarse one last time...........

If it was just betfair live video speeding up then your point is valid.however as you well know sis have changed the speed of the pictures by moving premises therefore have altered the level of service provided.

If you signed up to bt broadband and they later changed your download speeds do you genuinely believe there is f all you could do about it.

You have convinced yourself that anyone with sis is Donald ducked  is this because you play from live video and are ejaculating at the thought that you might be ahead of someone with sis ?

This won't go to court because the legal team at sis will be aware they have moved the goalposts.
Report racingstar December 17, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
Do not keep telling me your half baked ideas of what constitutes a breach of contract,Biscar.
If you think that you have a case,go for it or give it a rest as you are becoming a bore.
Afeter all,your case is with SIS not the BF Forum.
Report Biscar Two from a mile back December 17, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
Ofcom, the organisation that regulates the telecoms industry, has issued General Conditions that all service providers must follow. It says if a service provider changes your conditions in a way that is likely to be of material detriment to you, they must: Give you one months notice of the change or allow you to cancel at no extra fee. The principal here is the same
Report racingstar December 17, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
Biscar,
Please show me anywhere in the SIS Contract that mentions any guarantee of picture speed transmission (there is none).
Broadband speeds are entirely another matter.
Report andyl December 17, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
SIS is a disgrace imho.....they have slowed their product down and they also own the media rights to the track pictures ie the racecourses the atr tracks pay them a sum for their pics being shown...laughable in the extreme...
Report racingstar December 17, 2012 9:51 PM GMT
You will get no argument from me on that score,Andyl.
Report andyl December 17, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
the problem with the racing industry is REGULATION or the lack of it and CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS ARE BRUSHED UNDER THE CARPET

COURSE AND TV PICTURES INCONSISENT RE SPEED OF TRANSMISSION
IN RUNNING BETTING SO UNTRANSPARENT
BETTING EXCHANGES AND BOOKMAKERS - CLOSE OR RESTRICT SUCCESSFUL PUNTERS WELCOME THE REST WITH  OPEN ARMS
THE POLICING OF THE SPORT RE NON TRIERS AND FRAUD IS LAUGHABLE
EVEN DOWN TO COMMENTATING PRESENTING PUNDITRY ETC

AND THE RACING PRESS WON'T COVER SUCH ISSUES EITHER FOR FEAR OF UPSETTING THE GRAVY TRAIN

ITS A MESS
Report MrHunt December 18, 2012 12:37 AM GMT
what about the amount of thai women entering the country...scarey innit Cool
Report dustybin December 18, 2012 8:12 AM GMT
Both points of biscar and racing star are valid, unless somebody has actually taken them to court then everything else is guess work, because as pointed out, that is the point of the courts.
In many ways things like this vary between customers, some would be able to get something out of court by knowing how to address companies (although if SIS are as stubborn as they are seemingly incompetent then perhaps not)

Would be interesting if anyone actually had any experience of what occurred between themselves and Sis under these circumstances.
Report DOUBLED December 18, 2012 12:40 PM GMT
.. 87  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report racingstar December 18, 2012 8:30 PM GMT
I do not think that Thai scraggers or Ladyboys are going to put any wonga into the BF Markets,Waza.
Report MikeEnfield December 19, 2012 10:10 AM GMT
My 2 favourite videos on youtube are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhfAm6EdEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7S2b1b72FI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ82yp0pF98 All absolute quality
Report DOUBLED December 19, 2012 12:49 PM GMT
.. 88  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh
Report 0%profit December 21, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
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.. 90  days and the "temporary" slow down continuesLaugh

take it doubled on xmas break now have a good one Wink
Report DOUBLED December 21, 2012 1:52 PM GMT
.. 90  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy


Sorry lads but standards slipping Laugh
Report 0%profit December 21, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
i guess today is halfway to it not being temporary doubled lolWink
Report DOUBLED December 21, 2012 2:51 PM GMT
yes mate - should hit the 180 mark about Cheltenham Gold cup day Shocked

.......... but expect it will be sorted by then Laugh
Report 0%profit December 21, 2012 3:21 PM GMT
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Report DOUBLED December 22, 2012 1:10 PM GMT
... 91  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh

A Merry Xmas to all
Report starfish and coffee December 22, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
Grin
Report dustybin December 22, 2012 1:18 PM GMT
......... but expect it will be sorted by then


ohhhh no it wont

tis panto season
Report 0%profit December 22, 2012 1:18 PM GMT
merry xmas to everyone apart from sis i supposeWink
Report DOUBLED December 27, 2012 1:02 PM GMT
... 96  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report 0%profit December 28, 2012 12:20 PM GMT
limerick only on sis+ 3 meetings being shown on sis will this become the norm to get shops to pay for sis+ConfusedConfused
Report Biscar Two from a mile back December 28, 2012 12:24 PM GMT
started that way yesterday 0%profit and after two races they showed Limerick on standard SIS, taking the pi55 if you ask me
Report duncan idaho December 28, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
fibre optic roll-out completion imminent?
Report 0%profit December 28, 2012 12:44 PM GMT
would have been better to show limerick rather than leicester imo as the field sizes are so small joke imoAngryAngry
Report Biscar Two from a mile back December 28, 2012 12:46 PM GMT
Just another example of two fingers to subscribers.On Bank Holidays with double figure meetings you come to expect that some coverage will be via SIS+ but not today.
Report DOUBLED December 28, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
.. 97  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh
Report 0%profit December 28, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
i think that sis price goes up by about 8% in the newyear what a joke they really areWink
Report DOUBLED December 29, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
... 98  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report harold_lloyd December 29, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
give up at 100
imo .
Report DOUBLED December 30, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
... 99  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report 0%profit December 30, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
bflv well infront of sis today aswellWink
Report MrHunt December 30, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
well as in?
Report racingstar December 30, 2012 4:22 PM GMT
A Nanosecond,Waza?
Report 0%profit December 31, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
lingfield yesterday was about 1 second infront for the whole meeting taunton about level

today lingfield 1st race about 0.5 infront Confused
Report DOUBLED December 31, 2012 12:37 PM GMT
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Report 0%profit December 31, 2012 1:04 PM GMT
looking at the 1:00pm race this equates to about 3 lengthsShocked Shocked
Report MrHunt December 31, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
strange shinhanniggans today as uk on sis+ Excited
Report DOUBLED January 2, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
... 102  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh
Report FiveTimes January 2, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
How much is SIS Plus and how much racing do you get on there anyway?
Report 0%profit January 2, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
it seems that sis+ has a mind of its own one day irish then nothing then british other day tramore was not going to be on sis main service until warwick was called off why should that be as warwick is on turf tv can't see how there system is workingConfusedConfusedConfused
Report DOUBLED January 3, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
.. 103  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Crazy


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Shocked
Report DOUBLED January 4, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
.. 104  days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report DOUBLED January 4, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
Betfair Live Video comfortably in frontof SiS at Wolver Laugh
Report 0%profit January 4, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
sis unusable at the moment Cry
Report duffy January 4, 2013 2:11 PM GMT
live video is 4/5 secs ahead of atr at wolves these days.....and lv has become dangerously reliable for the last 6 odd months....dare I say it.Scared
Report DOUBLED January 4, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
What do you expect for £9,000 a year LaughLaugh
Report 0%profit January 4, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
have not seen bflv behind sis for a long while now but bflv has been infront of sis quite a few times latelyConfusedConfused
Report starfish and coffee January 4, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
Has SIS got even slower ConfusedShocked
Report 0%profit January 4, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
both aw tracks seem to be the furthest infront on bflv is this because they have better internet speed than most of the coursesConfusedConfused
Report DOUBLED January 6, 2013 1:50 PM GMT
.. 106 days and the "temporary" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy

Betfair Live Video noticeably ahead at Wolverhampton Wink
Report DOUBLED January 7, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
.. 107 days and the "temporary" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Laugh

Betfair Live Video level at Taunton Shocked
Report DOUBLED January 8, 2013 1:45 PM GMT
.. 108 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report bugs bunny January 8, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
think of the money you can save playing on blv at home instead of having to go to an exchange shop , 3 cheers to sis
Report DOUBLED January 9, 2013 8:38 AM GMT
Think of how mach money someone could make if they could provide "live" pictures from the racetrack - what would people be prepared to pay for that ?
Report DOUBLED January 9, 2013 12:58 PM GMT
.. 109 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy

Betfair LV level/ahead Laugh
Report DOUBLED January 10, 2013 2:12 PM GMT
.. 110 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Laugh


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy

Betfair LV noticeably ahead at Lingfield/Wolverhampton Cool
Report 0%profit January 10, 2013 3:44 PM GMT
as said before both these tracks the norm is for bflv to be about 1 second infrontConfusedConfusedConfused
Report 0%profit January 14, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
114 days

but seem to have slowed bflv down aswell got to laughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report 0%profit January 15, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
115 Wink
Report dustybin January 15, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
has doubled fallen asleep at his post again?
Report 0%profit January 15, 2013 4:07 PM GMT
lets hope he has not shared the same fate as mr hunt lolLaughWhoops
Report dustybin January 15, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
It wouldnt entirely surprise me if he slipped away into the night after sis quickened back up, hes good at being vocal when he loses an advantage but its different when he's at the front of the que, he goes rather quiet then. Laugh
Report MrHunt January 15, 2013 4:19 PM GMT
he's not been in office for 2 days...away looking for a bullet proof vest Cool
Report DOUBLED January 15, 2013 4:22 PM GMT
just playing at home on Betfair Live video - nee point using SIS now Shocked
Report DOUBLED January 16, 2013 1:27 PM GMT
.. 116 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy

Betfair LV noticeably ahead at Lingfield/Wolverhampton Cool
Report starfish and coffee January 16, 2013 1:35 PM GMT
Doubled are you still using SIS or do you now use BLV ?
Report 0%profit January 16, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
welcome back doubled i to worked from home the last couple of days i have seen a slow down in bflv at wolver and lingfield last few days not able to compare is a bit of a pain imoSad
Report 0%profit January 16, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
just compared sis with bflv at lingfield and they were exact imoConfusedConfused
Report DOUBLED January 16, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
Use BLV for all weather only mate
Report starfish and coffee January 17, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
What is the scores on the doors today ? BLV seems a bit slower lately
Report 0%profit January 22, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
122 imo LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report 0%profit January 24, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
is it even slower todayConfusedConfused
Report 0%profit January 24, 2013 3:48 PM GMT
124CryCry
Report 0%profit January 31, 2013 4:07 PM GMT
131CryCry
Report DOUBLED February 4, 2013 11:41 AM GMT
.. 135 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)Crazy
Report 0%profit February 4, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
welcome back doubledWink
Report CDK February 20, 2013 12:23 PM GMT
What have the pictures been like recently??
Report 0%profit February 20, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
no change Wink
Report DOUBLED February 20, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
.. 161 days and the "TEMPORARY" slow down continues Shocked


SiS +  Still faster (1/2 second faster)... BUT they aren't showing much on there these days !! They seem to be concentrating on dogs having a sh 1te on the way to the traps for the SiS + viewers or cartoon racing Laugh
Report 0%profit February 20, 2013 3:02 PM GMT
are they not showing the irish on sis+ doubledConfused
Report DOUBLED February 20, 2013 3:04 PM GMT
sometimes they do but not guaranteed - currently showing a picture of the traps at hove and trap 4 having a sh1te
Report DOUBLED February 22, 2013 8:26 AM GMT
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I emailed on the 15th and got this reply ............

Thank you for your email.



We have improved the latency somewhat but SIS+ does remain slightly faster at present.

We have asked Cisco, who manage our broadcasts, for advice on how we can bring picture speeds from MediaCity, Salford up to the same speed as those coming out of Milton Keynes (which SIS+ does) and await their response.  Unfortunately it doesn’t appear to be a simple fix.

In the meantime, please do not hesitate to contact me if we can be of any further assistance.

So its bull that no-one has complained in 3 weeks.

The above reply sent on 1/12/2012

Must be some place that Media City - the cutting edge centre not as quick as Milton Keynes LaughLaugh
While it may not be a "simple fix" nearly 6 months is laughable Shocked
Report 0%profit February 22, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
at least they acknowledge sis+ is faster because it is from m/k so are they closing down m/k and if not why did they move to salford in the first placeConfusedConfusedConfused
Report 0%profit March 12, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
is this the 6 months doubledWinkWink
Report DOUBLED March 12, 2013 4:37 PM GMT
Think it is mate Shocked
Report racingstar March 12, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
In the meantime,as a reward for this downgrade they are going to massively hike up the prices for home subscribers from May.
You could not make it up.
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