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GEORGE.B
01 Aug 12 19:51
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Report richters August 1, 2012 7:52 PM BST
dont be silly
Report twathed August 1, 2012 7:52 PM BST
cost it a half and beaten a sh or nose has to go
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 7:52 PM BST
LOOOOLZ, just cuz enzo sayz?
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 7:53 PM BST
Tbf, he didn't poleaxe him or put him threw the rails, so will probably keep it.
Report bobdiamond August 1, 2012 7:54 PM BST
if that gets overturned I'll pack betting in, completely!
Report carrot1960 August 1, 2012 7:55 PM BST
caused more damage to the third.
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 7:55 PM BST
more chance of me winning the lottery than result being changed im afraid. not that i'm bothered as got 1st past the post.
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 7:57 PM BST
No chance
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 7:57 PM BST
Now had Millman got his mallet out and bashed O'Neill over the head with it, us Herbalist backers might have stood a chance...But for merely taking the second's ground and hampering him, no chance...
Report bobdiamond August 1, 2012 7:57 PM BST
stewards will be mindful that if they reverse placings an appeal would be automatic. a big influence if it's fifty-fifty!
Report twathed August 1, 2012 7:58 PM BST
when it's this close they get it
Report ph. August 1, 2012 7:59 PM BST
didn't do anything wrong,runner up had plenty of room, can't believe they called an enquiry.
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 7:59 PM BST
Pizarro didn't get thrown out.
Report jonnyfc38 August 1, 2012 7:59 PM BST
no chance whatsoever
Report barkinggreville August 1, 2012 8:00 PM BST
1.34 to keep it v tempting but........................
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 8:00 PM BST
I can't believe it has gone on for so long. Winner has to keep the race.
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 8:02 PM BST
I rest my case Laugh
Report raymond1955 August 1, 2012 8:02 PM BST
result not in yet dont no why suspended
Report ph. August 1, 2012 8:02 PM BST
seen it all now,thats why I haven't bet a stewards for almost 5 years.
Report Virgin August 1, 2012 8:03 PM BST
Nige down south

Can I have your numbers for the lottery please Cool

GECoolRGE.B        wd
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 8:03 PM BST
thank god i backed the 1st past the post with the bookies!!!
Report barkinggreville August 1, 2012 8:03 PM BST
flipped
Report bilbobaggins August 1, 2012 8:03 PM BST
Unbelievable _ I backed Herbalist and laid off in the stewards as it had absolutely no chance of getting that. Stewards are a ****ing joke.
Report Jack Bauer '24' August 1, 2012 8:03 PM BST
Absolutely no consistency with these clueless fools.
Report richters August 1, 2012 8:04 PM BST
ABSOLTELY SCANDALOUS
Report Roger De Bris August 1, 2012 8:04 PM BST
theyve lost their marbles reversing that, can't even see yer man behind...Laugh
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 8:04 PM BST
That is just sick, I feel ill.
Report jonnyfc38 August 1, 2012 8:04 PM BST
unbelievable
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 8:04 PM BST
Enzo: "I thought it was a tough call"

Erm, no, you said you were surprised they'd called a SE.

FFS man, how far does the winning distance have to be before they call a SE?

The winner clearly took the second's ground.
Report Ghetto Joe August 1, 2012 8:05 PM BST
Ridiculous, things like that happen everday
Report Navel-Gazer August 1, 2012 8:05 PM BST
That's another nutty decision Shocked
That was like a throwback from 20 years ago!

Thank fcuk for betting on the enquiries as I was able to offload most of my Herbalist lays, even though I only used it as insurance because I couldn't see it getting reversed Happy
For once, I'm in agreement with Tony Pennis Crazy
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 8:05 PM BST
in states def reversal but seeing the head on im gobsmacked. feel sorry for anyone who didnt have 1st past the post concession.
Report twathed August 1, 2012 8:06 PM BST
backed it and topped up on the se,the good guys do win sometimes,sweet
Report lawman1975 August 1, 2012 8:06 PM BST
the way the rules r that surprise me spec when they r 2 years olds
Report marlborough August 1, 2012 8:06 PM BST
That is a complete joke
Report Captain Christy August 1, 2012 8:07 PM BST
why the hell was that thrown out?
Report youngmick August 1, 2012 8:07 PM BST
How can that lose the race when the Mccabe horse that beat the Hills odds on poke last week keeps the race?
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 8:08 PM BST
'Enzo' it's only "controversial" because of the ridiculous rules we have to put up with in this country.
Report bobdiamond August 1, 2012 8:08 PM BST
wont bet again, stick to laying, 100%.

thought that was just about as daft as it gets and would refer you all to QANNAAS at thirsk last week.
Report barkinggreville August 1, 2012 8:08 PM BST
Gets it back at Portman Sq but no good to its backers
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 8:08 PM BST
What a truly dreadful decision.
Report pablo gonzales August 1, 2012 8:09 PM BST
i  layed the eventual winner so i have obviously  a vested interest...........but  win lose or draw  its a long time since ive seen a race like that reversed in this country . you could take that to another 15 english tracks and at least  14 of them would say no change......incredible
Report ph. August 1, 2012 8:09 PM BST
well if that is now the template we'll get an amended twice a day,it was racing and Herbalist had almost a furlong to move left and shoot up a gap only 4 horse widths wide next to the rail. And the stewards were certain it would have won? Drink/drug test the doddery old wastrels. Absolutely shocking and if it stands on appeal then amendments will be commonplace.
Report SPOT THE DOG August 1, 2012 8:09 PM BST
what was 123 befor se
what was 123 after se please
Report twathed August 1, 2012 8:09 PM BST
every race like that should be reversed,I would have been very worried if i was on the fptp
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 8:10 PM BST
Virgin you are welcome to my lotto numbers but be warned i have never got more than 4 numbers up! lol
Report Feck N. Eejit August 1, 2012 8:10 PM BST
they should employ one stewarding group in one office in London
different stewards different interpretations = zero consistency


How can that lose the race when the Mccabe horse that beat the Hills odds on poke last week keeps the race?

Exactly.
Report clouded leopard August 1, 2012 8:11 PM BST
nauseous
Report Wesdag August 1, 2012 8:12 PM BST
Shocking decision. Just glad I traded out on the eventual winner.
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 8:12 PM BST
ph - spot on!
Report Virgin August 1, 2012 8:12 PM BST
Nige down south   

4 will do Wink
Report pablo gonzales August 1, 2012 8:13 PM BST
the point  is all we are asking  for is a little consistency...just a tad..............whether it should be thrown out is besides the point ..........in those situations they  very very rarely get  thrown out here ............as i said , be a long time before you see that again in this country
Report Captain Christy August 1, 2012 8:15 PM BST
The price on the winner to keep the race was baffling considering there was no interference whatsoever, enquiry into the stewards required.
Report swiftynifty August 1, 2012 8:15 PM BST
With an unimpeded run to the line the second would've reached the line more quickly than he did (i.e.the nose he was beaten). The first past the post caused this. Simple call really, this is the correct decision, it's all the other decicions that are ridiculous.
Report Blades August 1, 2012 8:15 PM BST
where can i see the replay?
Report ph. August 1, 2012 8:16 PM BST
consistency is all everybody wants I should think.
Report ph. August 1, 2012 8:17 PM BST
think you mean 99 in a 100 it stands.
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 8:17 PM BST
America yes, Australia well maybe. In the U.K. we expect that result to stand, it was a truly dreadful decision. No consistancy, Pizarro kept the race after Spencer performed the equine equivalent of gbh.
Report roggrain August 1, 2012 8:17 PM BST
Full time,highly trained,professional stewards are what's needed in this country.Also a review of the interference rules that lean heavily in favour of the horse causing interference.
Report Eltons wig August 1, 2012 8:20 PM BST
They wont get away with that. Posting for their info. Not Yours.
Report Navel-Gazer August 1, 2012 8:21 PM BST
I sympathise with the losers on that race, but you should know by now that the stewards are NEVER to be relied upon!
I've learned plenty of lessons and that's why I don't mind 'forfeiting' a few quid to stop the worry in the enquiry.

I was really tempted when it went to around 1.4 to keep the race but I smelled a rat, as it was far too big a price.
I'm just relieved I got out of jail, even though I was still down on the race.
Report Eltons wig August 1, 2012 8:23 PM BST
That has nothing to do with stewards and everything to do with money. It's marked and so are they.
Report pablo gonzales August 1, 2012 8:23 PM BST
rarely  do we get such agreement on this forum ..this is indeed unusual for more than one reason .............and it proves that layers and punters dont mind losing..thats life i am afraid.....but we do want consistency and therefore a chance ....if  we are to be at the mercy of random opinions of geriatric senility with no rules on stewards inquiries ..then we havent  moved forward in 50 years of stewards. this is 2012...my God cant we get fairness across the board ?
Report Blades August 1, 2012 8:25 PM BST
thanks apacino.
Report bobdiamond August 1, 2012 8:28 PM BST
it's happened, I've moved on but racing remains the toughest game in the world; appeal will indeed be interesting, wish I could be a 'fly on the wall' as they deliberate on 'what the bloody hell have the leicester stewards landed us with!'
off to see the swimming olympics and then a sound sleep in readiness for tomorrow.
Report Facts_only_please August 1, 2012 8:33 PM BST
FFS it was clear that the interference cost second the race, how can anyone say anything else. Correct decision, well done stewards.
Report scooby8 August 1, 2012 8:34 PM BST
the most cynical aspect was the betting. The huge bet which took the amended winner from 4s to 1.3 in a fraction of a second just before the announcement. Should be a stewards into the stewards imo.
Report Captain Christy August 1, 2012 8:38 PM BST
I wish I had said that Oscar.
Report SlippyBlue August 1, 2012 8:38 PM BST
It happens all the time scooby, nothing is ever done about it.
Report Nige down south August 1, 2012 8:39 PM BST
The 2nd had every chance to go past even with the interference. I agree with race course commentator that im not sure he would of gone past in another 50yds!
Report DPG August 1, 2012 8:43 PM BST
So if there is an appeal when will this be? Shahdaroba was the last leg in my 5-horse multiple, 4-winners then Shahdaroba went over the line first and i thought the 5th was in the bag gutted its been overturned!
Report Jack Bauer '24' August 1, 2012 8:49 PM BST
The result of the appeal would make no difference to any bets.
Report GEORGE.B August 1, 2012 8:53 PM BST
agree with ap re: a lot depends on the jockeys and what they say. I don't think it's fair, for example, say an inexperienced apprentice up against Fallon. How intimidating would that be for an apprentice, imo?

They have all the angles, is there any need to interview jockeys?
Report Wesdag August 1, 2012 9:03 PM BST
The moral of this debacle is to never rely on stewards to do the right thing.

I traded out for a loss even though I reckoned that it had no chance of it getting chucked if consistency is anything to go by. Just relieved that I did.
Report DPG August 1, 2012 9:07 PM BST
So why wouldnt Betfair pay out if an appeal gave 1st place back to Shahdaroba?
Report bertieboy88 August 1, 2012 9:07 PM BST
i feeel soo sick thinking you have one your big bet of the day to have it taken away from you also knowing my m8 also backed it on 365 has been paid out.GUTTED!!!!
Report sidthesperm August 1, 2012 9:18 PM BST
Just noticed this thread.. Hills paid me out on the original winner..
Report DPG August 1, 2012 9:19 PM BST
Im gutted obviously regarding the bet, but i think im more in shock like everyone else on this thread of the resulted being changed because you see a lot worst than that and never see the result get amended!
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