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valdozelo123
18 Jul 12 13:20
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Was just on Sandown Park website and cannot believe the admission prices they are charging tonight. £37 for an adult is bad enough if you just want to go racing and cant stand Tom Jones but how they can justify charging kids between 5-17 £20 to get in? None of them have heard of Tom Jones to start with! Average family of 2 adults and 2 children £114 to get in the gate?
Total disgrace
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Report wee eck July 18, 2012 1:22 PM BST
GO RACING AND GET FLEECED.
Report NMR July 18, 2012 1:23 PM BST
Dundalk's admission was free on Monday, and Ballydoyle's next good thing was on show. £37 is a rip-off!
Report wee eck July 18, 2012 1:25 PM BST
Seriously I would not give 4pence to see or hear tom jones.
Report valdozelo123 July 18, 2012 1:36 PM BST
Wee eck in all seriousness there are currently only 43 horses on the entire card at Sandown tonight and no race above a Class 4....£37? But the £20 for kids is worse in my opinion, i've already given the family price but another example say your a teenager living locally and want to go racing with a few friends tonight its going to cost you all £20 each to get in and you can guarantee none of them have a Tom Jones song on their ipod...nice touch by Sandown to say student discounts do not apply on music nights
Report Blades July 18, 2012 1:39 PM BST
Shocking. It makes my blood boil. And by the way, if you do go, avoid the £6 burgers....they end up in the bin.
Report Racecourse Regular July 18, 2012 2:01 PM BST
I emailed Andrew Cooper, told him he was out of touch, his reply back was that basically the music nights crossed subsidised other events and helped to increase prize money at other meetings throughout the year, all business's operate an element of cross subsidy I guess
Report roo July 18, 2012 2:02 PM BST
bar about 3 meetings a year the racing at sandown is middling at best,severely overhyped.
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 2:04 PM BST
the entrance cost has stopped me going tonight.
Report wee eck July 18, 2012 2:08 PM BST
A couple of years ago went to Musselburgh had to pay extra to get in as

they had a daft band on after racing, never stayed to listen to the band

and never been back to the track since.
Report the.mad.dog.man July 18, 2012 2:10 PM BST
come racing you got to be mad to go racing nowdays
Report roo July 18, 2012 2:10 PM BST
its crazy
Report adge July 18, 2012 2:17 PM BST
what is the normal price for a tom jones concert..i thought you would expect close to £50 surely

what has horseracing got to do with it
Report roo July 18, 2012 2:19 PM BST
the books shouldnt bother going either, horrendous badge price and nobody going whose interested in the racing
Report Racecourse Regular July 18, 2012 2:21 PM BST
Well you look at the pioneers of the concerts i.e Newmarket and their Friday nights when they first started, they would sell out for at least say 3 of their 7 acts....... now this year they have only sold out for one of their acts, then it £5 admission in the cheap ring and probably £15 in the Grandstand ok was sevral years ago but the business model worked well, then they think we can charge what we like now and people will still turn up.........
Report chelsea girl July 18, 2012 2:22 PM BST
adge....people on here would not accept £50 to watch that 'has been'

Never mind pay it. Angry
Report Racecourse Regular July 18, 2012 2:23 PM BST
Correct Roo...... it will be usesless, you should be saying a million people there and nobody having a bet, but by the very fact that Sandown were still emailing people at 8am this morning in a desperate attempt to get people to go...... there will be nobody there and therefore nobody having a bet
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 2:37 PM BST
what will van morrison be like at the july course ?
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 2:39 PM BST
rr

i remember one off the first nights at newmarket it could have even been the first one,it was freddie and the dreamers around 1994 i am pretty sure you just paid normal admission prices back then.
Report reculver July 18, 2012 3:24 PM BST
Jimnast, before that, i went to Hurst park and saw Al Jolson after racing..normal price as well
Report reculver July 18, 2012 3:26 PM BST
Joking Apart, racecourses will price themselves out eventually, if the bookies had the bottle to  boycott just 1 decent meeting.the racecourses would 5hit themselves and listen...Likewise if punters done the same.
Report SlippyBlue July 18, 2012 3:32 PM BST
I love Sandown but that is just absurd to charge those prices. I have seen Tom Jones before in Vegas and he puts on a good show fair enough but for the racegoers that are not interested in the gig they just won't go at that price.

Plus 6 quid for a salt beef sandwich but that's another story. With travelling and all the rest of it you have to allow about £80 for expenses, it's just far too much for a lot of people.
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 3:44 PM BST
was he any good reculverWink

agree about the books not turning up for one of these,but i am sure you will agree there are two chances ,slim and no chance and as they say slim has just left the building.
Report zipper July 18, 2012 3:54 PM BST
37 quid to get in.....how much is it to get out .
Report posy July 18, 2012 4:00 PM BST
I'm going tonight ;as a member these stupid prices don't affect me Except i wont be taking my student son and so the course will lose a) a student admission b) supper for 2 in the bistro and c) a couple of pints......rest assured the place will be empty until about 7pm when the trains will disgorge hundreds if not thousands.Last year I left after the last race and was the only person driving out of the gates.I hate these music evenings.
Report turnip turns July 18, 2012 4:04 PM BST
I believe sandown are refunding the price of the concert if you leave within 15 minutes of the last race ,not 100% on thisWink
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 4:05 PM BST
posy

i take you wont be throwing your underwear at tom then ?
Report Racecourse Regular July 18, 2012 4:06 PM BST
Correct Posy, another reason why it's no good for the books, most of the clientle leave work late or have drinks in town before heading over for the concert, they treat it like a concert in effect......
Report sizezero July 18, 2012 4:07 PM BST
its not unusual
Cry
Report Racecourse Regular July 18, 2012 4:07 PM BST
Jimnast - you are correct, Newmarket used to charge the same price for all their meetings including those with a concert at the outset, the pricing disparity has got bigger and bigger ever since
Report posy July 18, 2012 4:08 PM BST
no chance jimnast...always go commando
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 4:10 PM BST
do the women still throw there underwear at him ?
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 4:12 PM BST
rr

i went to the madness night back in june ,it hurt pulling up the badge and entrance money.
Report roo July 18, 2012 4:12 PM BST
Get debbie steamed up . jimbo, she ll chuck you at him !!!!
Report SlippyBlue July 18, 2012 4:13 PM BST
Jimnast, I saw him at the MGM Grand, some old Doris, she must have been about 82 threw her granny pants at him.
It was a truly disturbing scene for me let alone Sir Tom Shocked
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 4:16 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report SlippyBlue July 18, 2012 4:16 PM BST
I did see Blondie at The July course and about 12,000 stayed for the gig and I thoroughly enjoyed it, she really rocked the place. Entrance was nowhere near 37 sovs though.
Report jimnast July 18, 2012 4:18 PM BST
she took me to see him in manchester about 15 years ago roo,he was starting in decline then.
Report Cantthinkofaclevername July 18, 2012 4:25 PM BST
Did Sandown not have a meeting last year with TJ singing at the end? If I remember correctly, they had a huge crowd.
It's all well and good us racing purists complaining about high prices when there is a popular act on afterwards (and TJ still packs them in) but when I went to the Brigadier Gerard night, which had probably the best evening's racing in the UK, the place was virtually empty.
Yes this evening at Sandown is very pricey if you don't want to stay for the show but how would you police a dual ticketing system?
Report Cantthinkofaclevername July 18, 2012 4:25 PM BST
Did Sandown not have a meeting last year with TJ singing at the end? If I remember correctly, they had a huge crowd.
It's all well and good us racing purists complaining about high prices when there is a popular act on afterwards (and TJ still packs them in) but when I went to the Brigadier Gerard night, which had probably the best evening's racing in the UK, the place was virtually empty.
Yes this evening at Sandown is very pricey if you don't want to stay for the show but how would you police a dual ticketing system?
Report posy July 18, 2012 4:33 PM BST
yes he was there last year but the crowds didn't turn up until over half way through the card...as i said earlier i seemed to be the only person driving out of the More lane exit after the racing.
I too thought Brigadier evening would be better attended however i seem to remember the weather wasn't too warm...think it was a lovely warm evening last year with a big crowd.

Anyway off now to lose some money
Report SlippyBlue July 18, 2012 4:37 PM BST
I went to the Brigadier Gerard meeting, it was fairly busy but for the standard of racing it should have been mobbed I agree.
I have to say it though it was the most enjoyable meeting I have been to for a good while.
Report squares July 18, 2012 5:13 PM BST
tbf, a lot of those early July Course concerts (20 odd years ago) when the prices stayed the same generally had tribute-type acts such as Bootleg Beatles, Blues Brothers, Bjorn Again, etc. 

It was only when they started going after "big names" that the prices were really hiked up - and then pretty much stayed that way whether it was a really big name or not.
Report adge July 18, 2012 5:14 PM BST
will be interesting to see how many doncaster get tomorrow night.
i'm told they have the Chip Shop Boys performing after racing.
Report One Nation July 18, 2012 5:14 PM BST
Not only are they punishing a racegoer actually interested in the sport by their ticket price hike, but if the stage is obstructively placed where it usually is, the racegoers' view of the actual event itself will also be diminished.
Report Cantthinkofaclevername July 18, 2012 5:20 PM BST
What is your solution One Nation?
If you ran a racecourse and could get 5 to 6 times more people if you put on a show afterwards, what would you do?
Report Insanity Later July 18, 2012 5:24 PM BST
Put the shows and the racing on different nights.
Report roo July 18, 2012 5:25 PM BST
One Nation     18 Jul 12 17:14 
Not only are they punishing a racegoer actually interested in the sport by their ticket price hike, but if the stage is obstructively placed where it usually is, the racegoers' view of the actual event itself will also be diminished.

I went this meeting last year, it completely obliterated 2f in the home straight with the stage, never ever again.
Report nerium July 18, 2012 5:32 PM BST
Was in New York, early nineties, ad. in paper for Aqueduct race meeting. Between races Chaka Khan and Tony Bennett singing. Mind you, admission a bit steep at $5! What is wrong with this country?
Report Cantthinkofaclevername July 18, 2012 6:10 PM BST
Nerium - it's called a T0te monopoly. Even with their protection via this monopoly, US racetracks going to the wall.
Report ekbalko July 18, 2012 6:11 PM BST
Racecourses ideal venues for pop concerts plenty of open space and bars. Racing is the sideshow probably not wanted by most there.
Report SlippyBlue July 18, 2012 6:15 PM BST
The Aussies have got the sport nailed, off course TAB monopoly but bookmakers on course, absolutely perfect set up now given the internet alternatives.

I lived in Sydney and 20 years ago bog standard greyhound races at Wentworth Park was a grand to the winner.

My local racetrack Rosehill offered prize money then that puts us to shame even now all those years later.
Report reculver July 18, 2012 8:28 PM BST
I read earlier that Sir Tom gets paid 285 grand for tonight, so i suppose someones got to pay for it Cry
Report Blades July 18, 2012 8:49 PM BST
reculver, i cant beleive that! 285k???
Report reculver July 18, 2012 9:13 PM BST
So i read. iF 20,OOO PAY 37 QUID EACH THEN thats 740,000.. (POUND SIGNS NOT WORKING)...I read that Johnny Mathis wanted 600 grand to perform at Folkestone last year but they couldn't accomadate him,...S CLUB GET PAID 595 GRAND BETWEEN 7 OF THEM..
Report facts please July 18, 2012 9:22 PM BST
What will the bookmakers badge be next year for such music events. Epsom must have caught a cold this year with there pricing on the early music nights. £40 in. I see for the Alfie Boe one can get entry tickets for just £16 if you are savvy enough to know where to get them from. Desperation already?
Report posy July 18, 2012 10:01 PM BST
Am back from Sandown;cold and wet. It was practically empty behind the stands at the parade ring throughout the evening and only a few people there for the first few races.Although it filled up and people were still arriving after the last race as i was leaving it didn't seem anywhere near as full as this time last year.Have to say people watching is quite good fun....talk about 50/60 year old mutton trying to dress like lamb and in general they looked cold and miserable .Cost to get into the premier enclosure a whopping £43 .Looks like they're starting to panic about sales for someone called Alfie Bowe next week as they were advertising reduced price packages.
Report reculver July 18, 2012 10:05 PM BST
Alfie Bowe next week, they'd sell more tickets if it was Alfie BassCrazy
Report democrat July 18, 2012 10:22 PM BST
What's it all about ???? Shocked
Report jimnast July 19, 2012 7:12 AM BST
i was told after 3 races last night that it was unworkable in parts of the ring,dont know if it picked up but at the prices the books have to pay it would have needed to,perhaps as reculver suggested in his 1526 post something needs to happen,do we ever wonder where is it going to end ?
Report jimnast July 19, 2012 7:16 AM BST
regarding brigadier gerard night ,i go each year for a night out, i find the crowd just right ,lets just hope the racecourse doesnt start messing about with that fixture.
Report adge July 19, 2012 8:58 AM BST
it's not compulsory for bookmakers to turn up and as the badge fee next year is connected to the attendance figures many probably won't.

was tom jones worth the money ?
Report democrat July 19, 2012 10:05 AM BST
What do you think adge ? Too many has beens still trying to extract the last penny from a gullible public.
Report democrat July 19, 2012 10:05 AM BST
How many bogeys in the Open adge ?
Report adge July 19, 2012 10:24 AM BST
leave me alone , democrat , lawrie for 20k and meeka singh for 17k for starters
Report Dr Gonzo July 19, 2012 10:35 AM BST
S CLUB GET PAID 595 GRAND

Cry
Report jimnast July 19, 2012 10:37 AM BST
at least you have heard of them dr.
Report democrat July 19, 2012 12:05 PM BST
Never a worry adge - when are you gonna lay some that have a chance ?
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