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wildmanfromborneo
28 Jun 12 18:54
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Will post a quiz on the Irish Derby here at around nine o`clock.
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Report Foetus June 28, 2012 9:59 PM BST
9.El Gran Senor AGAIN?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:00 PM BST
Scobie Breasley came from Wagga Wagga and trained Steel Pulse
Meadow Court was part owned by Bing Crosby
High Chaparral was a cryptic one,Western can be a direction or a cowboy programme,Cannon was the name of the family that owned the High Chaparral.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:03 PM BST
I am not trying to handicap foetus but being Irish would be a huge help in answering Q5 and Q8.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:04 PM BST
WMFB - I'm handicapped enough chief Scared
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:05 PM BST
Not if you were looking at my scoresheet.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:05 PM BST
5.Irish Ball/Alfred Gibert
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:07 PM BST
Q5 Is a trainer with a Cork sounding name.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:07 PM BST
WMFB - surely you could have given us a cryptic clue for the 2004 winner Grey Swallow, along the lines of geriatric fellatio Devil
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:08 PM BST
5.Philippe Lallie
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:08 PM BST
He comes up later in the quiz.
Report no-won-sun June 28, 2012 10:09 PM BST
5 Paschal Bary
Report onlooker June 28, 2012 10:10 PM BST
5. Irish Ball - 1971 - French owned, trained, ridden.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:10 PM BST
3.Prendergast?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Pascal Bary correct
Q8 Irish satirical magazine and a beer that i think was sold in England as well as Ireland sometimes known as the bright beer.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Q4 seems ambiguously phrased...this year's winner? Confused
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:13 PM BST
What do you think will win this year,being English will be a help for this question.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:15 PM BST
5.Midas Touch?
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 10:17 PM BST
8/Is The Phoenix
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:19 PM BST
The Phoenix is correct
A satirical magazine and a beer fom the sixties and seventies.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:22 PM BST
Q11 is a jockey who although English was a champion in Ireland.
The Seekers were an Australian pop group.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:26 PM BST
I could only think of Georgy Girl Sad
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
Q3 is a jockey
Q4 is a horse
Q9 is a horse
Q11 is a jockey

I think its the hit before that thats relevant
Report Cork Langer June 28, 2012 10:32 PM BST
Q3) Jimmy & Pat Eddery
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:32 PM BST
Look at this for a pattern I've just noticed...

Fallon 2005/6
Heffernan 2007/8
Murtagh 2009/10
O'Donoghue 2011

Who is Colm riding at the weekend?

AND prior to that (looking at Aidan's winners) Mick Kinane had consecutive winners too!
The portents look handsome Wink
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 10:33 PM BST
11/ has to be Wally
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:35 PM BST
Jimmy Eddery rode Panaslipper,his son Pat rode Grundy,El Gran Senor,Law Society and Commander In Chief
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:35 PM BST
Before Wally
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 10:38 PM BST
Morny Wing then
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:39 PM BST
Q4.This years winner should be Camelot so the connection is with an O`Brien runner up not Aidan.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:41 PM BST
Morny Wing correct,his name was Mornington Wing.
The Seekers had a hit song a type of lullaby called Morningtown Ride remove the w and you have Mornington and the no 11 player plays on the wing.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:42 PM BST
4. Caerleon
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 10:44 PM BST
Saddlers Wells
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:44 PM BST
Caerleon a Welsh village no Camelot connection
Report Cork Langer June 28, 2012 10:46 PM BST
Q9) Your Highness after 6 Princes/Kings winners...???
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:47 PM BST
Q9.What famous Irish trainer won six Irish Derbys
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:48 PM BST
9.Vincent O'Brien?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:49 PM BST
Correct now what horse was mischieveously named after him.
Report timeless June 28, 2012 10:49 PM BST
Doctor Devious Crazy
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:51 PM BST
Correct,Sangster had fallen out with him.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:51 PM BST
I put EGS earlier but that wasn't right Confused
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:52 PM BST
Excellent Timeless...I've never heard that one Wink
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:57 PM BST
Q13.Rage against the dying of the light
Q14.One of Stilvis famous sons
Q15.Black Caviar is in pursuit of his American record leading to an early winner
Q16.Francas father
Q17.Weld places a wager slowly
Q18.First to do the double
Q19.This boy has gone to war.
Q20.The boss sang about this fictional character
Q21.Ozymandias
Q22.Capital for Modric
Q23.Mercenary
Q24.Vintner
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:58 PM BST
14.Tyrnavos AGAIN?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 10:58 PM BST
One to go in the first batch Q4.
A Camelot connection and a Vincent O`Brien trained Sweeps Derby runner up.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 10:59 PM BST
21.Ozymandias? King Of Kings won the 2000 Guineas WMFB...are you going senile? Devil
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:02 PM BST
20.Soldier Of Fortune
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:02 PM BST
24.David O'Brien
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:02 PM BST
22.Zagreb
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:03 PM BST
23.Soldier Of Fortune AGAIN?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:04 PM BST
Q21 and Q20 wrong
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 11:05 PM BST
Isn't 4/ Saddlers Wells ?
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:06 PM BST
21. a bit tenuous but Desert King?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:07 PM BST
No,his sire was Round Table another clue and he chased home Grundy.
Tenuous but correct Desert King
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 11:09 PM BST
Nobiliary
Report guinness2dear June 28, 2012 11:10 PM BST
And i was thinking Granddam
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:10 PM BST
Aaaah...a bit before my time but I do have some knowledge of life - King Pellinore! Wink
Report Cork Langer June 28, 2012 11:14 PM BST
Q20) Santa Claus
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:14 PM BST
16.Grundy?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:15 PM BST
Scores after first batch.

Foetus  7
Guinness2dear  3
Cork Langer  1
Onlooker   1
No Won Sun  1
Slippy Blue  1
Timeless   1
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:15 PM BST
19.Soldier Of Fortune YET AGAIN! Grin
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:17 PM BST
Santa Claus correct.
Q19 again a huge help to be Irish with a knowledge of Moores melodies.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:22 PM BST
18. Cheated in spades for this...Orby!
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:37 PM BST
Ye are probably getting tired will put up a final batch for the night shift.

Q25.Sad mad bad
Q26.He dropped his whip
Q27.This cobbler was third
Q28.Sadlers Wells/Flame Of Tara  Storm Bird/Morning Devotion
    and the common denominator
Q29.Take me to the altar poet
Q30.Back to back winners with the same owner trainer jockey and sire
Q31.Was favourite for all 3 English classics and Irish Derby and won none
Q32.What connects Summer Squalls dad with a beaten Peter Walwyn trained favourite
Q33.Last horse demoted
Q34.Favourite demolished in more ways than one.
Q35.Workrider not the forumite
Q36.This jockey had same name as French tennis player of same era.
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:38 PM BST
25.Celtic Swing
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:39 PM BST
Hang on...he didn't even run in it! Shocked
Winged Love?
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:40 PM BST
31.Ribofilio/Ribero?
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:42 PM BST
26.Richard Quinn on Insan
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:43 PM BST
28.Salsabil
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:45 PM BST
26.Balanchine - her & Salsabil were fillies
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:45 PM BST
That should have been 28 Wink
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:47 PM BST
30. Ribocco & Ribero, so after cheating I now realise that Q.31 is Ribofilio! Grin
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:49 PM BST
32. Leonardo Da Vinci?
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:51 PM BST
I had to cheat AGAIN...Celtic Swing DID run in the Irish Derby but was battered!
I totally forgot about that Plain
Report Foetus June 28, 2012 11:53 PM BST
33.Premonition?
Google's great innit? Grin

That'll make you fcukers think I can't remember anything! Devil
Report wildmanfromborneo June 28, 2012 11:57 PM BST
Not Premonition more recent,demoted the key word.
Foetus you will start on minus six next time.
The answer to Q32 is Tail now tell me why.
Report Cork Langer June 29, 2012 12:06 AM BST
Q32) Presume they didn't have one
Report Foetus June 29, 2012 12:09 AM BST
Storm Bird wasn't the colt that got his tailed burnt by a stable lad was he? Confused
Report Foetus June 29, 2012 12:13 AM BST
* 'tailed'? Confused
The brandy's flowing tonight...I meant 'tail' but something in the back of the memory banks says 'mane' instead? Confused
Report Foetus June 29, 2012 12:16 AM BST
WMFB - you should ask questions that are 'ungoogleable' in the future like Quinn dropping his whip on Insan - that would sort out the limp-wristed farts from the rinky-dinks DevilLaugh
Report Cork Langer June 29, 2012 12:16 AM BST
Q36) Frankie Durr/Francoise Durr
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 12:19 AM BST
Have another brandy as they are not kicking in yet.
Storm Bird had his tail and mane cut by a disgruntled stable lad.
Linden Tree got his tail caught in the stalls when favourite for the 1971 Derby causing him to be left at the start.
Brilliant Cork Langer you are poorly named you got the hardest one.
I don`t use google use memory and some books.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 12:20 AM BST
Foetus you are putting up a Frankel type of performance,well done.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 12:37 AM BST
Here are the unanswered questions.
Q13.Rage against the dying of the light
Q15.Black Caviar is in pursuit of his American record leading to an early winner
Q16.Francas father
Q17.Weld places a wager slowly
Q19.This boy has gone to the war
Q27,This cobbler was third
Q29.Take me to the altar poet
Q33.Last horse demoted
Q34.Favourite demolished in more ways than one
Q35.Workrider not the forumite.

will revisit tomorrow with scores and more clues.
Report dunlaying June 29, 2012 10:10 AM BST
For Cobbler there is Willie Shoemaker ,the great american ,who rode Hawaiian Sound to be placed at Epsom and in the Sweeps.Barry Hills/Bob Sangster.
Or maybe it was Shoemaker,trained by P Walwyn who was placed at Epsom.I do not recall if he ran at The Curragh or not.
Report BRADMAN8898 June 29, 2012 11:40 AM BST
Q13 Dylan Thomas?
Report BRADMAN8898 June 29, 2012 11:53 AM BST
Q16.Carlo?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 12:48 PM BST
Three more correct answers.
This cobbler was third.      Willie SHoemaker rode Hawaiian Sound into third behind Shirley Heights.
The equine Shoemaker never travelled over for our Derby.
Rage against the dying of the light is a famous quote from Dylan Thomas.
Franca Vittadini was a top lady rider in the seventies and infamously broke poor Tony Murrays heart,her father was Carlo Vittadini who owned the great Grundy.
Well done Dunlaying you never let me down you are like the bear on the mint you always arrive late but you always get some right.
Well done BRADMAM8898 two correct.
Report BRADMAN8898 June 29, 2012 12:52 PM BST
Q19 Soldier Of Fortune?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 12:59 PM BST
Fair shout but you would nearly have to be Irish to get this one,the key is the famous Moores melodies and this is one of them made famous by that great racing enthusiast Count John McCormack.
Report Cork Langer June 29, 2012 1:30 PM BST
Q19) The Minstrel (Boy)
Report BRADMAN8898 June 29, 2012 1:32 PM BST
Thanks for clue Wild Man I'm not Irish but guess Q19 must be The Minstrel?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 1:38 PM BST
The MInstrel boy to the war has gone,a song I learnt in school.
The MInstrel correct winner of the 1977 Irish Derby.
Report Foetus June 29, 2012 1:44 PM BST
"Foetus
28 Jun 12 23:14

16.Grundy?"

I saw the Vittadini connection but I reckon you missed that one Wildman Grin

The ones remaining are pretty tough Sad
Before the racing gets under way...what's left?

Thanks for your efforts again WMFB Wink
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 1:48 PM BST
You copped it but as you are so far ahead I decided to leave you be.
I am off to the Curragh so will not be back til late tonight.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 11:07 PM BST
Current Scores

Foetus.     21
Cork Langer.   5
Guinness2dear.    3
Bradman8898.      3
Onlooker.     1
No Won Sun.     1
Sloppy Blue.    1
Timeless.     1
Dunlaying.    1


There are still some unanswered questions
Q15.Black Caviar is in pursuit of his American record leading to an early winner.
Q17.Weld makes a wager slowly.
Q33.Last horse demotes.
Q34.Favourite demolished in more ways than one.
Q35.Workrider not the forumite.


Once again clues to follow
Report GT-MOLE June 29, 2012 11:12 PM BST
Which Irish Derby winner carried more than 15 stones and also won the English Derby?
Report GT-MOLE June 29, 2012 11:13 PM BST
Secretariat?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 29, 2012 11:35 PM BST
Slept for one unanswered question.
Q29.Take me to the altar poet.

Q15.What was the American horse who won 23 races straight,now you get a Derby winner from the thirties.
Q17.Is an anagram.
Q23.The key word is demoted not disqualified,he finished third but careered across the track knocking the favourite for six and eas placed fourth
Should be Q33
Q34.A building that was demolished and a very recent beaten favourite.
Q35.This jockey was an almost unknown Workrider when he got the opportunity to ride and win the Irish Derby on this favourite.
Report dunlaying June 30, 2012 10:05 AM BST
A guess for the workrider.Liam Ward?
Report workrider June 30, 2012 10:27 AM BST
willie burke ..santa claus...1964...
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