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two tears in the hind quarters apparently and something else
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average british horse were too much for it and it injured itself straining to beat them
She had severe bruising in the hind quarters as well apparently
Not as good as they thought ! But she won but beat nothing !
And there is my point i've been drumming all day yesterday. The horse was never trained up a hill, she didn't know what hit her when she met the rising ground hence the tearing of the muscles. Another good reason for the owners to send her to Ballydoyle.
UNBEATEN Black Caviar was on Sunday night diagnosed with two muscle tears and severe bruising to her hind quarters following her famous win in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot.
Veterinarians told trainer Peter Moody "she would have definitely felt it during the run".
"She's had something like this before," Moody said, adding he did not know when she might have picked up the injuries.
"She's entering quarantine today, we're sending her home, but we'll be able to have the injuries treated whilst she's in quarantine."
Vets inspected the unbeaten mare at her Newmarket stable base and located the muscle injury and bruising.
The physical issues could explain why her customary acceleration and speed were missing during the Diamond Jubilee Stakes.
The "Wonder From Down Under" was still poised to register another comfortable win when jockey Luke Nolen controversially dropped his hands near the line, almost costing the mare her unbeaten record.
Given the vagaries of travel, Nolen's riding blunder and the injuries the mare sustained during the race, the Diamond Jubilee Stakes may now go down as one of her greatest of her 22 wins.
Moody said Black Caviar ate up after her Royal Ascot win but admitted the mare was "very flat and tired" this morning.
Moody said no decision on Black Caviar's racing future would be made until the mare had returned to Australia, recovered from her injuries and enjoyed a deserved spell.
Moody is still hopeful Black Caviar will race in Melbourne during the spring carnival.
Caviar, the 1/6 ($1.16) favourite scrambled in by only a head from Moonlight Cloud $6, with Restiadargent (40/1) a neck away third.
Soul, the former Sydney sprinter who would not have got near Black Caviar in Australia, finished fourth, only about a length from the great mare.
Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win the 12th Group 1 win of her career, taking her prizemoney to more than $6.5 million.
Veterinarians told trainer Peter Moody "she would have definitely felt it during the run".
"She's had something like this before," Moody said, adding he did not know when she might have picked up the injuries.
"She's entering quarantine today, we're sending her home, but we'll be able to have the injuries treated whilst she's in quarantine."
Vets inspected the unbeaten mare at her Newmarket stable base and located the muscle injury and bruising.
The physical issues could explain why her customary acceleration and speed were missing during the Diamond Jubilee Stakes.
The "Wonder From Down Under" was still poised to register another comfortable win when jockey Luke Nolen controversially dropped his hands near the line, almost costing the mare her unbeaten record.
Given the vagaries of travel, Nolen's riding blunder and the injuries the mare sustained during the race, the Diamond Jubilee Stakes may now go down as one of her greatest of her 22 wins.
Moody said Black Caviar ate up after her Royal Ascot win but admitted the mare was "very flat and tired" this morning.
Moody said no decision on Black Caviar's racing future would be made until the mare had returned to Australia, recovered from her injuries and enjoyed a deserved spell.
Moody is still hopeful Black Caviar will race in Melbourne during the spring carnival.
Caviar, the 1/6 ($1.16) favourite scrambled in by only a head from Moonlight Cloud $6, with Restiadargent (40/1) a neck away third.
Soul, the former Sydney sprinter who would not have got near Black Caviar in Australia, finished fourth, only about a length from the great mare.
Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win the 12th Group 1 win of her career, taking her prizemoney to more than $6.5 million.
Tore muscles don't make me laugh
This was don'e over 3 mile carrying 12 stone giving nearly 2 stone to the winner
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Bios2/Arkle.htm
It now seemed a mere formality that Arkle would win a fourth Cheltenham Gold Cup. There was just Kempton Park’s King George VI Chase to overcome – a conditions race he had won the year before – in which he only had to concede 21 lb. to his six opponents. But almost from the start Pat Taaffe sensed something was wrong. Arkle was jumping to the left on a right handed track (in hindsight he had done the same over the last few fences at Ascot ). It was clear that Arkle, if not struggling, was not the Arkle we knew. Invisible from the stands, Arkle had clipped the guard rail at the second fence with his off-fore, splitting the pedal bone. But a cracked pedal bone was certainly not going to stop him now.
Woodland Venture, the most likely danger, and an old adversary, Dormant, whom Arkle had distanced in the same race the previous year, both had a go at him. But Arkle never surrendered his lead easily, and he still led at the end of the first circuit. At the first fence in the back straight – and Kempton’s fences were not to be trifled with – Arkle went straight through it; in much the same way he had done at Cheltenham when winning his third Gold Cup. A gasp from the crowd; followed by a sigh as his remarkable balance rescued him. Biddlecombe drove Woodland Venture into the lead, but Arkle was having none of it, and by the next fence he was back in front.
By the second last, when Arkle would have normally taken leave of his field, Woodland Venture was still hanging on, and he challenged for the lead again. Almost upsides of Arkle as they took off, Woodland Venture crashed to the ground, leaving Arkle alone. Only one fence left and he would be home.
But creeping out of the depth of winter mist was Dormant, who under normal circumstances would not have caught Arkle if he had run to the end of the world. Dormant now appeared to be closing on Arkle at a phenomenal rate. The crowd was willing Arkle on – completely unaware of the excruciating pain that was stabbing into his off fore every time it touched the ground.
At the last fence Dormant was six lengths in arrears and even in receipt of 21 lb. his task looked formidable. But on the run-in the race took a dramatic change. Arkle’s stride faltered and shortened as Dormant relentlessly cut down his lead. It was only twenty yards from the winning post that Dormant finally caught him, but so slow was Arkle going now (he had almost slowed to a trot as he passed the winning post) that Dormant had a length to spare.
As Pat Taaffe – who worshipped the only perfect horse he had ever sat on – was led in, the anguished expression on his face told the whole story: Arkle had broken down. It was an anguish shared by all who had followed this great horse.
His injury was serious enough: the pedal bone was split over two inches. One must wonder at the pain he must have experienced racing over three miles – never attempting to pull-up, but fighting to the bitter end. Little wonder the public took him to their hearts.
So don't make muscle tears an excuse for beating moderate sprinters
This was don'e over 3 mile carrying 12 stone giving nearly 2 stone to the winner
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Bios2/Arkle.htm
It now seemed a mere formality that Arkle would win a fourth Cheltenham Gold Cup. There was just Kempton Park’s King George VI Chase to overcome – a conditions race he had won the year before – in which he only had to concede 21 lb. to his six opponents. But almost from the start Pat Taaffe sensed something was wrong. Arkle was jumping to the left on a right handed track (in hindsight he had done the same over the last few fences at Ascot ). It was clear that Arkle, if not struggling, was not the Arkle we knew. Invisible from the stands, Arkle had clipped the guard rail at the second fence with his off-fore, splitting the pedal bone. But a cracked pedal bone was certainly not going to stop him now.
Woodland Venture, the most likely danger, and an old adversary, Dormant, whom Arkle had distanced in the same race the previous year, both had a go at him. But Arkle never surrendered his lead easily, and he still led at the end of the first circuit. At the first fence in the back straight – and Kempton’s fences were not to be trifled with – Arkle went straight through it; in much the same way he had done at Cheltenham when winning his third Gold Cup. A gasp from the crowd; followed by a sigh as his remarkable balance rescued him. Biddlecombe drove Woodland Venture into the lead, but Arkle was having none of it, and by the next fence he was back in front.
By the second last, when Arkle would have normally taken leave of his field, Woodland Venture was still hanging on, and he challenged for the lead again. Almost upsides of Arkle as they took off, Woodland Venture crashed to the ground, leaving Arkle alone. Only one fence left and he would be home.
But creeping out of the depth of winter mist was Dormant, who under normal circumstances would not have caught Arkle if he had run to the end of the world. Dormant now appeared to be closing on Arkle at a phenomenal rate. The crowd was willing Arkle on – completely unaware of the excruciating pain that was stabbing into his off fore every time it touched the ground.
At the last fence Dormant was six lengths in arrears and even in receipt of 21 lb. his task looked formidable. But on the run-in the race took a dramatic change. Arkle’s stride faltered and shortened as Dormant relentlessly cut down his lead. It was only twenty yards from the winning post that Dormant finally caught him, but so slow was Arkle going now (he had almost slowed to a trot as he passed the winning post) that Dormant had a length to spare.
As Pat Taaffe – who worshipped the only perfect horse he had ever sat on – was led in, the anguished expression on his face told the whole story: Arkle had broken down. It was an anguish shared by all who had followed this great horse.
His injury was serious enough: the pedal bone was split over two inches. One must wonder at the pain he must have experienced racing over three miles – never attempting to pull-up, but fighting to the bitter end. Little wonder the public took him to their hearts.
So don't make muscle tears an excuse for beating moderate sprinters
we are talking about sprinting where everything has to be spot on for extreme brilliant speed to be generated
Even the thought something not right would have slowed her apart from the rest.
Anyways, next start you lay her, Ill back her
Even the thought something not right would have slowed her apart from the rest.
Anyways, next start you lay her, Ill back her
If Usain Bolt tears a muscle and still wins the the semi final of the 100mts in a couple of mths, it proves he is no better than the hacks behind him? 
Take her home will ye and come back when ye have something half decent that'll get within 10 Lengths of Frankel
Jun 24, 2012 -- 12:52PM, Anaglogs Daughter wrote:
Take her home will ye and come back when ye have something half decent that'll get within 10 Lengths of Frankel
Great attitude.
tore her muscles in the last 10 yards when the jockey stopped riding and then forced her to quicken again.
He's proven what an idiot he is repeatedly, he can't even post her correct fastest 200m which is in fact 9.98 seconds during her Group 1 lightning stakes win earlier this year.
Never let a little thing like annoying facts get in the way of a good story Anaglog.
Never let a little thing like annoying facts get in the way of a good story Anaglog.
Take her home a feckinng handicapper in the next race carrying 9lb more finished quicker then her...Is she still here? Bring her to Ballydoyle.
I`am sure to most racing people that the mare did not run up to her best form yesterday.
Pushed out to the line, she would have won by about 1L, so the fact that she was injured during the race, she did well to win at all.
It was great to see her at the Royal meeting & winning,safe trip back home BC.
Pushed out to the line, she would have won by about 1L, so the fact that she was injured during the race, she did well to win at all.
It was great to see her at the Royal meeting & winning,safe trip back home BC.
Oh and about tearing muscles yeah sureeeee she did that's why her stride shortened and she stopped...200 yards after the line..Anyone who tears mucles in thier back or legs usually collapse in a heap. . There's bells on the other one
Jun 24, 2012 -- 1:17PM, Anaglogs Daughter wrote:
Oh and about tearing muscles yeah sureeeee she did that's why her stride shortened and she stopped...200 yards after the line..Anyone who tears mucles in thier back or legs usually collapse in a heap. . There's bells on the other one
Why are you not a veterinarian? You obviously know more than them!
That article is terrible. Lets try and find as many excuses as possible shall we. Did Moody bring the right horse?
Just look at the bigger picture I'm gutted for the Aussies who thought they had a superstar. She maybe a superstar in Australia beating avarage horses every week, She's a moderate horse that beat a moderate field of sprinters (as proved by the handicapper who won the next race over 6f, if she had to have been in BC's race she'd have finished at least 5 L in front of them) Take her home to lala land..Now FRANKEL . . THAT IS A WORLD CHAMPION 
Dont get confused between knowledgeable and wise. .I'm a wise-guy
Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting in your fruit salad.
Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting in your fruit salad.
Just for my Australians mates... The greatest mare of all time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKT9eybbf4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKT9eybbf4I
Jun 24, 2012 -- 1:46PM, Facts wrote:
ADAlways thought you were a tw@t - now I know it !!
I think the politically correct term is "special".
most likely injured when Nolen eased down then asked her to kick again suddenly.
She was rolling along nicely till then.
first time since hay list she's actually had some competition...bit different than beating up the likes of Efficient and Midas Touch.
She was rolling along nicely till then.
first time since hay list she's actually had some competition...bit different than beating up the likes of Efficient and Midas Touch.
Jun 24, 2012 -- 1:54PM, EastLower Gooner wrote:
most likely injured when Nolen eased down then asked her to kick again suddenly. She was rolling along nicely till then.first time since hay list she's actually had some competition...bit different than beating up the likes of Efficient and Midas Touch.
**** off idiot
first time a horse has won and theres loads of excuses.....as comical as the invite given to Frankel for the Cox Plate
Thank lord she'd didnt lose!
Thank lord she'd didnt lose!
AD
glad I am in Aus.
No need to go to UK now
Why visit the luny farm?
glad I am in Aus.
No need to go to UK now
Why visit the luny farm?
Nolen - I'm going to ride out HAHAHAHAHAHAH what a liar he turned out to be.
How rubbish is the Melbourne Cup...Red Cadeaux and Dunaden pssed it and can't even win a race against our top boys now :o
at 2.40 the current greatest female horse in the world runs in France.
enjoy ozzies
enjoy ozzies
ceciil and abdullah are cowards and duck divers ive said this b4 they name a horse after bobby frankel and dont go to breeders cup what a disresoect
Ffs, how much are these vets on? £400 an hour?
I 'm just a silly cnt, but, if you look back, you'll see I posted that BC looked knackered to me.
I can sense when a horse ain't right.
That race in the cold and wet with a stiff climb and some decent, close competition, was a bit to much for this good winner.
Perhaps that's why all the connections looked ashen and upset ( except the jockey, who looked ashen but seemed to be blushing at the same time).
I guess they could see that something had gone wrong. Didn't even look good before the race.
Anyway, I'm no pom and I used to live in Australia, so, well done for having a go and winning, lads!
That animal looks a bit heavy and steroidish for my liking. I can't see thew breeding chances being improved by this event.
A pity, because at least you had a go.
I'd love to see Fanshawe's break on level terms, but I don't think it's ever going to happen.
The other Australian horse ran well. Godolphin were trying on that one, I reckon, and Frankie was trying to wind the young fella up before the race.
Btw, anybody want to save on vet fees, I'm open to offers, as I ain't a particularly good punter.
I 'm just a silly cnt, but, if you look back, you'll see I posted that BC looked knackered to me.
I can sense when a horse ain't right.
That race in the cold and wet with a stiff climb and some decent, close competition, was a bit to much for this good winner.
Perhaps that's why all the connections looked ashen and upset ( except the jockey, who looked ashen but seemed to be blushing at the same time).
I guess they could see that something had gone wrong. Didn't even look good before the race.
Anyway, I'm no pom and I used to live in Australia, so, well done for having a go and winning, lads!
That animal looks a bit heavy and steroidish for my liking. I can't see thew breeding chances being improved by this event.
A pity, because at least you had a go.
I'd love to see Fanshawe's break on level terms, but I don't think it's ever going to happen.
The other Australian horse ran well. Godolphin were trying on that one, I reckon, and Frankie was trying to wind the young fella up before the race.
Btw, anybody want to save on vet fees, I'm open to offers, as I ain't a particularly good punter.
Peter moody is a legend this makes the victory even more memorable black caviar comes half way around the world races injured jockey easys down and still wins the race STILL BRINGS THE TROPHY HOME
IN SPORT ALL U HAVE TO IS ENOUGH TO WIN AT TIMES ALL THE GREATS HAVE BEEN BEAT OR HAD CLOSE ENCOUNTERS IT WHATS MAKES THE MEMORABLE CHAMPIONS COMING THROUGH ADVERSITY
THE PEOPLE THAT DONT APPRECIATE BLACK CAVIAR ARE PROBABLY GAMBLING FOOLS THAT THINK HORSE RACING IS NOT A SPORT OR EJITS THAT H8 THIER LIFES AND HAVE NO POSITIVITY OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH ITS A SAD CASE WHEN GAMBLING HAS CLOUDED YOUR VIEWS OF A SPORT
Horseracing is NOT a sport, mate, it's a business.
Most of the so-called stars end up as dog-food.
Enjoy your horse while you can; I think you've seen the best of her and she never got beat in her career.
Good luck to you!
Most of the so-called stars end up as dog-food.
Enjoy your horse while you can; I think you've seen the best of her and she never got beat in her career.
Good luck to you!
Does anybody on here read Caps Lock posts?
I don't think I've ever read one.
Even when the wonderful Lord Newbury still existed.
I don't think I've ever read one.
Even when the wonderful Lord Newbury still existed.
Anaglogs you are letting yourself down with all the s*** you are saying about BC.
Stevie Wonder could tell you she didnt run her race.
Real racing fans can appreciate both Frankel and BC.
Stevie Wonder could tell you she didnt run her race.
Real racing fans can appreciate both Frankel and BC.
Some of you Aussie BC fans are hilarious in your jingoistic outpourings. Try and find some humility - it would be refreshing if nothing else.
the pride of aus looked like an old fat wooly point to pointer and travelled like a boat in the race .surprised the vet never took it out
aus pride bruised and took one hell of a beating .
them aus races gp1,s must be like claimers
aus pride bruised and took one hell of a beating .
them aus races gp1,s must be like claimers
We'd harness it up to a plough down 'ere in Devon...
She a moderate nag that is just above Handicap class and I'm using 'just above' taking in the 'she was injured' factor. She wouldn't have won the race Dandy Boy won over the same distance and that's fact..The clock don't lie..
how do we know any of the other horses were n't injured during the race given the media have completely ignored them?
Overhyped to a ridiculous degree.
Overhyped to a ridiculous degree.
Not so sure about that, b n b,
I think he was frightened she'd break down. It would have been a terrible calamity.
Obviously, the French hadn't read the script.
If she recovers, I'd like to see her in a match against Fanshawe's. There again, you have to be able to trap properly.
Perhaps a flag start would do?
Murtagh wouldn't be far away, imo.
No point speculating. 'Tis all over now, and she's kept her record.
I think he was frightened she'd break down. It would have been a terrible calamity.
Obviously, the French hadn't read the script.
If she recovers, I'd like to see her in a match against Fanshawe's. There again, you have to be able to trap properly.
Perhaps a flag start would do?
Murtagh wouldn't be far away, imo.
No point speculating. 'Tis all over now, and she's kept her record.
Are we sure about all of this???? They could just be trying to repair the horses reputation for being the best
She a moderate nag that is just above Handicap class and I'm using 'just above' taking in the 'she was injured' factor.
You're making a fool of yourself.
hth
You're making a fool of yourself.
hth
I think that the performance yesterday proved to me that, injury aside Black Caviar is a good horse but not the superstar that everybody thought, yesterday she didnt beat alot and the time of the race after proved the performance to be just ordinary. For me to earn the name superstar she should have won yesterday with her head in her chest or with the minimum of fuss which she didnt.The races that she has competed in in Australia are clearly pretty low grade in comparison to British races.
FRANKEL..............Now theres a superstar
FRANKEL..............Now theres a superstar
Thats the one, the one that beat Excelebration a few days earlier without breaking a sweat "strode majestically clear, awesome" now theres a superstar
Funnily enough I don't believe in Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy either............must have been the same "injury" as Canford Cliffs.
Marks out of 20 for SUPERSTAR
Frankel & Queally 15/20
10/10 Horse
5/10 Queally: Jockey rode group winners Ireland England, USA, even New Zeland
Black Caviar & Nolen 7/20
7/10 HORSE 0/10 JOCKEY
Nolen if he's invited over for the Shergar Cup, i can see him as an unused sub no one will want him up in their horse ..Sorry Luke for been harsh but you ain't got a clue
Frankel & Queally 15/20
10/10 Horse
5/10 Queally: Jockey rode group winners Ireland England, USA, even New Zeland
Black Caviar & Nolen 7/20
7/10 HORSE 0/10 JOCKEY
Nolen if he's invited over for the Shergar Cup, i can see him as an unused sub no one will want him up in their horse ..Sorry Luke for been harsh but you ain't got a clue
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