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workrider
22 Jun 12 14:50
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not running great are they ...i wonder are they under the weather ....?
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Report workrider June 22, 2012 11:16 PM BST
another one of his beaten fav at goodwood tonight i see...
Report Greg_Gory June 23, 2012 12:38 AM BST
The last few days Shocked
DATE    RACE CONDITIONS    RACE OUTCOME    JOCKEY    RPR    DIFF
    22Jun12     Goo 6Gd C53yHc 3K     7/9 17½L, Caterina 9-2 20/1    Kieran O'Neill    —    —
    22Jun12     Goo 14Gd C3Hc 7K     7/9 14½L, Jehanbux 9-0 12/1    Richard Hughes    —    —
    22Jun12     Nmk 8Sft C53yHc 2K     5/11 7¼L, Gold Sceptre 9-5 3/1F    Ryan Moore    —    —
    22Jun12     Goo 9Gd C5Md 2K     4/15 6½L, Santarini 9-0 4/1    Richard Hughes    —    —
    22Jun12     Goo 6Gd C42yMd 3K     3/13 1¼L, Botanica 9-0 11/10F    Richard Hughes    —    —
    22Jun12     Goo 6Gd C42yMd 3K     5/13 4L, Mystical Moment 9-0 7/1    Kieran O'Neill    —    —
    22Jun12     Asc 6Sft C12yG3 34K     14/14 20L, Tassel 8-12 12/1    Richard Hughes    —    —
    22Jun12     Asc 6Sft C12yG3 34K     11/14 15L, Equitania 8-12 20/1    Ryan Moore    —    —
    22Jun12     Asc 6Sft C12yG3 34K     9/14 11½L, Light Up My Life 8-12 25/1    Jimmy Fortune    —    —
    21Jun12     Asc 12GS C23yHc 34K     3/18 ½L, Rougemont 9-7 25/1    Richard Hughes    113    7
    21Jun12     Asc 12GS C23yHc 34K     8/18 4¼L, Misdemeanour 8-0 33/1    Jimmy Quinn    86    -3
    21Jun12     Asc 12GS C23yHc 34K     5/18 2¼L, Pilgrims Rest 8-0 16/1    Kieran O'Neill    90    -1
    21Jun12     Asc 10GS C13yG3 39K     10/10 95L, Crius 9-4 16/1    Richard Hughes    —    —
    21Jun12     Asc 8GS C23yHc 62K     14/29 16L, Democretes 8-11 20/1    Richard Hughes    65    -26
    21Jun12     Asc 8GS C23yHc 62K     2/29 1¼L, Mister Music 9-4 50/1    Jimmy Fortune    105    6
    21Jun12     Asc 8GS C23yHc 62K     12/29 15L, Graphic 9-3 50/1    George Baker    72    -25
    21Jun12     Asc 8GS C23yHc 62K     29/29 51L, Red Seventy 9-4 66/1    Pat Dobbs    —    —
    21Jun12     Asc 8GS C23yHc 62K     22/29 22L, Lord Ofthe Shadows 9-0 33/1    Sean Levey    57    -44
    21Jun12     Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K     10/11 10½L, Annunciation 9-1 12/1    Richard Hughes    70    -29
    21Jun12     Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K     8/11 8¼L, Mister Marc 9-1 7/1    Ryan Moore    77    -22
    21Jun12     War 8Sft C5Cl 2K     6/7 20L, Crown Dependency 9-1 b1 5/2    Dane O'Neill    29    -60
    20Jun12     Asc 8Gd C13yHcL 31K     13/17 18½L, Esentepe 8-12 10/1    Richard Hughes    63    -36
    20Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K     12/27 7L, Miss Diva 8-12 33/1    Jimmy Fortune    78    -4
    20Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K     20/27 11½L, Jubilee Diamond 8-12 14/1    Richard Hughes    62    -17
    20Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K     3/27 2L, Hairy Rocket 8-12 11/1    Ryan Moore    95    6
    20Jun12     Asc 8Gd C2Hc 77K     19/30 11L, King Torus 9-10 50/1    Martin Dwyer    92    -21
    20Jun12     Asc 8Gd C2Hc 77K     6/30 2¼L, Cai Shen 9-8 12/1    Richard Hughes    110    1
    20Jun12     Asc 7Gd C13yG3 39K     5/22 1½L, Producer 9-1 14/1    Richard Hughes    110    11
    20Jun12     Asc 7Gd C13yG3 39K     21/22 18½L, Redact 9-1 80/1    Jim Crowley    64    -45
    19Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yL 31K     15/23 8½L, Lyric Ace 9-3 5/1    Richard Hughes    70    -26
    19Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yL 31K     2/23 ½L, Alhebayeb 9-3 12/1    Paul Hanagan    99    18
    19Jun12     Asc 5Gd C12yL 31K     6/23 1½L, Ask Dad 9-3 10/1    Ryan Moore    95    11
    19Jun12     Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K     9/22 8½L, Master Of War 9-1 50/1    Jimmy Fortune    87    2
    19Jun12     Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K     2/22 ¾L, Olympic Glory 9-1 20/1    Dane O'Neill    112    26
    19Jun12     Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K     10/22 8¾L, The Taj 9-1 20/1    Paul Hanagan    87    -1
    19Jun12     Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K     4/22 3½L, Sir Prancealot 9-1 3/1F    Richard Hughes    103    -2
    19Jun12     Asc 8GS C1G1 198K     10/11 19L, Strong Suit 9-0 10/1    Richard Hughes    98    -28
Report Vubiant June 23, 2012 2:06 AM BST
Pretty dismal alright.Shocked
Report thegiggilo June 23, 2012 2:49 AM BST
Probably doesn't say much for the general standard of 2yr olds this season i would think and thats been borne out by the clock,although there hasn't been much opportunity to see alot perform on decent ground.Cool
Report EvgenyKissin June 23, 2012 2:58 AM BST
Those are quite amazing stats - hopefully he will be back on track for Goodwood.
Report hello :-) June 23, 2012 3:10 AM BST
Only three of them started fav so wouldnt take to much from last few days ,  form getting constantly turned over and soft start held yard back , be banging them in in no time
Report differentdrum June 23, 2012 7:52 AM BST
The 2yo's to run so far this week have generally run well without being good enough.

I think the three best to have run are Jalaa, Havana Gold and Toronado.

Let's see what happens in the first today - big test for Hanagan.
Report mandown June 23, 2012 10:54 AM BST
Apparently the horses blood counts are not right.
Report workrider June 23, 2012 12:32 PM BST
i thought something had to be wrong mandown...he had 2 horses over at naas recently both looked smashing in the parade ring and ran super races ...yet one of them  mister merc ran at ascot and stopped as if shot.....
Report workrider June 23, 2012 12:44 PM BST
seems to be a lot of money around for his in the first at ascot ...i layed it ...i'm wondering if the arab horse is trained in the other yard...anyone know ?
Report Lets Elope June 23, 2012 12:51 PM BST
Sounds like the same clowns who who were criticising tom daschcombe a few weeks back, seriously do any of you have any idea, if you do videos properly  the 2yo on the second day ridden by kirby (can't remember its name offhand) stood out like a  sore thumb oh and thanks for the six bucks about it.

If it didn't try to throw the race away it wins by about three or four lengths.

Its called proper form analysis rather than this rubbish about a yards not in form so therefore the trainers best horse can't possibly win.

I've never heard such rubbish did it occur to any of you that his other horses might be cats and just because they are, doesn't mean their best horses have suddenly lost a leg.

Do yourself a favour and go back and watch that horses debut win and you might actually learn something about form analysis it displayed brilliant acceleration on three separate occasions during its debut win at its only start prior to its stunning win at Ascot the other night.

hannon is one of your few trainer that actually trains with skill rather than just being a numbers man and actually employs modern rather than archaic training techniques. Heaven help you if Moody or Peter Snowden turned up here and trained here full time with the backing that some of your so called top trainers get, it would be a bloodbath.
Report hello :-) June 23, 2012 12:54 PM BST
They know exactly where to put them aswell , very astute
Report workrider June 23, 2012 1:11 PM BST
lets elope , i never said hannon was a bad trainer ...as regards videos have a look at   mister marcs last race against bolgers winner , who went on and won again at royal ascot...from been in the leading pair most of the way he stopped to a walk and finished last ...not his true form imo ...so why shouldn't i question if theres something amiss....i had a look at his 2yo in the parade ring at salisbury on sunday...it again looked smashing and was back as if defeat was out of the question..yet ran deplorably ...hence my reason for asking the question...
Report workrider June 23, 2012 2:12 PM BST
a winner for the yard at newmarket i see ..not a 2yo though...
Report workrider June 23, 2012 2:28 PM BST
lots of money for this now ....they fancy this one methinks....
Report differentdrum June 23, 2012 2:42 PM BST
Shocking performance - beaten at halfway - 11/2 to 2/1 but opposed late back out to 11/4. Not so sure that Hanagan is the answer to Maktoum's prayers - how long before we are saying come back Richard Hills?
Report workrider June 23, 2012 2:45 PM BST
nothing to do with hanagan imo...the horses are the problem atm....
Report mandown June 23, 2012 7:46 PM BST
I gave my information in good faith. I do not like be to referred to as a clown. I do not want or expect abuse from people like Lets Elope.
Report hello :-) June 23, 2012 8:05 PM BST
Good faith in short supply here at times mandown , cheers anyway
Report workrider June 23, 2012 9:39 PM BST
mandown...some on here are blind to whats in front of them....dont worry about him....
Report Can't Catch Me June 23, 2012 10:01 PM BST
Got to feel for him. Gets a dozen Hamdan horses for the first time and then has a season like this.

Only thing you can be sure of, is he will be back firing them in soon.
Report workrider June 23, 2012 10:08 PM BST
of course he will ,smashing trainer is hannon....but to bury your head in the ground like lets elope did is shameful....something wrong with those 2yos ...simple as....
Report Can't Catch Me June 23, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Without a shadow of doubt.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 23, 2012 10:20 PM BST
Mandown an.d Workrider spot on again,those horse are sick and must be swerved or laid if you are a layer
Report BIG GURU June 23, 2012 11:34 PM BST
Agreed,good stuff workrider,and interesting from mandown,should they be running when bloods not right?
Report obratzov1 June 23, 2012 11:59 PM BST
while i respect someone who seems to know about the blood counts and all.

hannons results at royal ascot for 2yos werent that much different from normal..

two 2nds and a 3rd from 15 runners was very similar to last years 1st, 2nd, and 3rd from 12 runners..

he had 2 good years previous to that with 2/8 both years ..

but 1/11. 0/7. 1/9 before that..

weather has been terrible so far..

and he did have a double with the 2yos on mon..

in fact , taking out royal ascot , each year... he is having his best june for a long time...
Report Lets Elope June 24, 2012 5:20 AM BST
People I wasn't criticising Hannon who is a great trainer.
Report workrider June 25, 2012 6:46 PM BST
?
Report larrence June 25, 2012 6:48 PM BST
Apart from ryan moore he uses some carp riders. Crazy
Report STATSMAN May 13, 2013 2:45 PM BST
Crazy
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