RUK - Dear oh dear oh dear

He wouldn't be able to slack off Frankel.

Wouldn't hold one side of him imo.

with editorial decisions like this surely RUK will fall by the wayside soon...?

they can't get new subscribers with this lot on can they...?

and current subscribers will surely pull the plug soon enough...

i heard them talking about custard and rice pudding yesterday as well as getting free bottles of champagne from paul hanagan...

surely pundits shouldn't have cosy relationships with jockeys...?

HH, i'd guess the number of subscribers have fallen significantly to an extent RUK may now be looking to bookmakers to make up the shortfall

I subscribe to watch live racing not to listen to pundits.

The signing of Broonie is a serious misjudgement though. He offers nothing.

it will be of no surprise to me if the subscribers have fallen away rider...

it's just the same old garbage all the time...

has tom o'ryan ever seen a bad ride in his life...?

and as flyingbolt suggests the signing up of GB is a shambolic decision imv...

get rid of all these pundits,and cut the price to 10pnds a month.

what are you going to learn from these pair at perth today,sweet f all.

i agree with both knot in wood and watchit tbh...

high fiving...getting bottles of champagne...

how can you take a broadcaster seriously when this is going on lads...?

surely these guys are supposed to keep a distance so they can offer an independant view...?

surely your judgement is clouded if someone is handing over a bottle of champagne and/or high fiving you in the weighing room...?

if i was running the channel i wouldn't allow it...simple as that.

"has tom o'ryan ever seen a bad ride in his life...?"

I don't know. Has anyone ever shown him a replay of his own effort at Doncaster?

I don't learn anything from the "experts" they all talk so well after the horse has bolted, which is very annoying.

Jun 10, 2012 -- 2:19PM, marc1013 wrote:

Already slacked of frankel poor old Angus

What did he say,i missed it?

Has Broonie now gone from sucking off Dobbin to obliging Hanagan, a sickening brownnoser is our Broonie.

The whole lot with one notable exception are dyed in the wool gravy trainers

who are never under any circumstances going to rock the boat or piss inside the tent.

alex steedman got the champers of hanagan tbh wee eck...

how's the health btw...?

tom oryans job is to offer his insight from a jockeys perspective,hes not there to dig the dirt or question things - hes there to explain and promote things - does a great job.

Has he ever produced an article that questioned racing in anyway at all?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

there are no exceptions some are just better actors than others

absolute nonsense comingupthehill...

so if tom sees a bad ride it's not his job to comment on it...?

what a load of garbage mate.

Hibby, going in to have the op. on Friday hope very much that it is successful

and improves the quality of what remains of my life.  Thanks for asking by the way.

watchit - what do you mean,hes just a presenter on the telly - why have a go about stuff you dont know about,if you dont like it turn off - us punters value toms opinions.

hope so wee eck...

nobody deserves to be in pain etc...

it's all about quality of life imv...

how long are you in hospital ?

watchit I dont know if it is still going on but about 10 years ago

he was still courting the same woman he had been going out with for around

15 years.

tom oryans job is to offer his insight from a jockeys perspective,hes not there to dig the dirt or question things - hes there to explain and promote things - does a great job.

---------------------------------------------------------------

the most RIDICULOUS thing i have read on here for a long time.

and that's saying something tbh...

Hibby, hopefully just a few days.

good stuff wee eck...

watchit - what do you mean,hes just a presenter on the telly - why have a go about stuff you dont know about

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

what does watchit not know about btw...?

another ridiculous statement from comingupthehill...

it must be hard work gabbing on here all day and have no interest in horse racing,dont you feel your just wasting your life away.

best to just walk away watchit.

comingupthehill is clearly a wind-up merchant...

to say tom o'ryan isn't there to dig up dirt or Q things is astonishing tbh...

he's there to report on things / talk about things on the telly.

and even tho i don't listen to them these days i have NEVER heard tom have a pop at a jockey for a questionable ride.

yet most people on here see them on a DAILY basis...

The best are Hislop,Melish,Neesom and Luck. I quite like Cunningham,Howard,Naughton,Yates and Willoughby. I can't be done with Persad,Hannity,O Ryan,Brown.njoything to my e No opinions on the rest but they don't add anything to my enjoyment

watchit
10 Jun 12 15:14 Joined: 17 Oct 05 | Topic/replies: 20,342 | Blogger: watchit's blog
Comingupthehill I would honestly pay an extra fiver a month if they eliminated all RUK presenters and pundits

if they eliminated all RUK presenters maybe Comingupthehill would have to find another job.

I dont think any viewer or punter would applaud a fencesitter with no strong opinions on anything.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

100% spot on watchit.

but clearly SOME people quite like the cosy fence sitting side of things.

can't comprehend why tho tbh...

dont wish to offend anyone by having the wrong(or right)opinion.

to say tom (or any other pundit or presenter) isn't there to question anything is embarassing tbh comingupthhill...

when lydia and steve questioned ap's ride on the jp horse you presumably think they were well out of order to do so then...?

It is obvious from the forum,who are the main watchers of the channel(not me,too dear), that they strongly disapprove of the presenters ,as the object is watching live racing,not listening to personal opinions.I very much agree with this.Watching the horses in the paddock,cantering down,and then the race is what it is all about.Shows on the screen,no verbals needed.
  Do away with the pundits,thereby greatly reducing costs,comments can be made from the studio,as Chapman does,when necessary on the non subscription channel.
If RUK had a survey asking if the pundits were wanted,or no pundits and a reduced subscription,the response would be very interesting.

the response would be overwhelming imv unbiased...

I get via free stream online from some bloke why pay when if you look it's free yehhhh

It is supposedly a dedicated channel broadcasting to ardent followers of racing,who I am sure don't want a pundit advising them what to back or lay.It is not watched by the general public who may,or may not,need some form of guidance.

If it's "too dear" for you,Unbiased..............then how on earth are you qualified to comment on whether or not there is enough coverage of the paddock/going to start etc ?

unbiased, sending the signal to the studio basically adds a significant delay to the pictures, it has to be on everyones wish list to get pictures to our screens (or computers) in under 1 second, which is possible but NOT with pundits

"sending the signal to the studio basically adds a significant delay to the pictures"


I'm no technocrat but that sounds total nonsense to me.

Care to explain ?

This 'service' is free on betfair, so god knows why you would pay for it.

Prefer to watch from the comfort of my armchair rather than huddled over a computer screen.

For a fiver a week it makes sense to me. HTH.

sadly for them not everybody is a mug.

i'm no expert either fb, but it takes time for signals to travel from the track to your tv, the quickest (by satellite) would be one bounce (to satellite and then to your house) but if you have to send them to the ruk studio first and then to the customer it takes 2 bounces so the delay is doubled at least

How any fan of racing complains about paying a fiver a week for RUK is beyond. Five quid a week FFS,go watch the motor racing or something

So I'm a mug because I want to watch the racing in comfort and think for less than £5 a week it's worth it.

I see.

ATR is free, why on earth would you pay to watch a few other courses as well? Flying Bolt has been RUK's only fan for years now, so no surprises there.

To answer your question flyingbolt,it is NOTHING to do with what I can afford,it is to do with value.I can afford to pay £5 for a pint,but don't wish to.Ask yourself if it was half price would they cover themselves with double the subscribers.Remember your£20/month is paying for all the nattering,which is the subject of this thread.
Somebody has got mixeded up with what I said about the studio,that was for after race comments etc.,not to do with the pictures.Obviously the quicker we receive the pics.,the better for all.Not advocating any delays,no way.

65p a day and so called fans of racing quibble about the price of RUK. Totally pathetic..........65p a day PMSL

Be careful Captain C,they will start telling you it isn't free.The term is non-subscription.

I would be willing to pay a fiver a week not to have to listen to those w*nkers.

My Pc is hooked up to 32in flat screen ad I have a nice chair to sit on so 0p a day is better than .65p a day

A few other courses ?

33 including all the good ones bar Ascot..
If I was "their only fan" I think they would have gone under long ago . Don't you ?
As for ATR being "free"......zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Unbiased.
The picture comment wasn't directed at you.
My question still remains though. If you don't receive RUK how are you qualified to comment on it's content ?

Good for you,marc 1013.

Flyingbolt,there was a period when Virgin's tie up with ESPN allowed viewers access to RUK,plus I have a mate who subscribes,but also detests with a vengeance all the punditry,and can't understand why he has to pay,but because he is a pro gambler,needs the channel.Again not a question of affording it,just a question of why pay.

I get all of the races free on Betfair and have endured the w*nkers who live off your fiver a week, if it was my choice I would not contribute to the living of other useless feckless benefit scroungers, you however have a choice and that makes you a mug. You have been defending them for years on here, WHAT IS YOUR ANGLE?

I would like the pundits to get stuck in when needs be but if they don't then that is a side issue, as long as i see the pictures then that is pretty much all i care about, watching it on betfair doesn't help when you're trying to play in-running and besides the LV is as abut as reliable as a chocolate tea-pot,my need to watch the ruk pictures outweighs any principles i may have by about a million to one.

paid for ruk for years the addition of gordon fing brown was the last straw and i cancelled last month

do i miss it? not a bit a load of old mates chatting away never see anything wrong if anything my punting is better as rightly or wrongly they used to wind me right up

I love getting it  for free I would hate to pay Angus speed figure any money  it's so easy to find just google it take about 10 mins and  boom free ruk and atr and loads of otht channels even get free us racing.

I don't see how anyone paying for a service that they are happy with is a mug. Don't people remember life before 2 dedicated racing channels and a betting exchange?

Yes we do,but ask yourself why one is sub. free,and the other sees fit to charge £20/month.That does not make any sense at all.

for the life of me i can't understand why someone on a saturday afternoon wouldn't want to watch newmarket haydock chester york etc etc just because GC might look at the camera in a funny way....nose off cut face spite

Even better when GC gets angry with Naughton, that is funny

anyway, lets have it right, on the one hand you're saying that the pundits are all a pile of sh1te and on the other hand you're promoting AT fecking R where we have weaver harvey enzo who are bloody a million times worse....just because it's free!!!

My "angle" is that I'm old enough to remember when televised racing was the ITV 7 and 3 races on Grandstand on Saturday.

For me being able to watch every race run in UK or Ireland is bliss. If it means putting up with a bit of chat thats fine with me. Personally I like listening to people talking about racing even if I think they are plonkers.

Hope this goes some way to explaining my "angle".

Face facts all the coverage is **** bookies bookies and stupid pundits buts it's all we have

i agree with boltys angle

I'd pay £20 a month just to continue to see the permanent look of utter surprise on Hannitys face that he has got the gig.

65p a day and so called fans of racing quibble about the price of RUK. Totally pathetic..........65p a day PMSL

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

65p a day to listen to steedman and nevison talk about custard and rice pudding.

65p a day to listen to steedman talk about getting champagne from hanagan.

65p a day to hear about high 5's with jockeys...

65p a day and never once has anyone heard tom o'ryan have a pop at a jockey.

oh forgot one...

65p a day to hear how ap has lifted another one home until he gets beat in a close finish and nobody says a peep...

Are you a subscriber,HH ?

If so you should cancel now. You seem very unhappy.

i used to be but stopped flyingbolt.

fed up listening to garbage most of the time (see above).

the pundits on there all seem to be omni-employed so they don't need my 65p a day tbh...

i'm not angry flyingbolt.

just don't like listening to some of the garbage spouted on RUK at times.

ATR is equally as bad btw...

I am no mug and i am happy to pay £5 a week for RUK.I just think they need a cull of some of the wasters on there.

agreed cull the wasters and spongers , then reduce the price to encourage more subscribers , wonder what the pundits and wafflers would think of that ?

I agree with Triple Trigger.

lydia and steve m pretty much say it as they see it...

the rest leave a lot to be desired at times imv...

chris dixon's defence of adam kirby at kempton was laughable tbh...

Well,the good ones know who they are and the bad ones will be quaking in their boots.Rightly so.

but I am daily getting sent off tilt nothing to do with the horses but by the consistent sycophantic bullshi t coming out the presenters/pundits mouths

-----------------------------------

summed up perfectly watchit...

i'd just like to add that i'm sure guys like steedman / o'ryan and dixon are decent people.

but as pundits they just don't cut the mustard for me at all...

Wasters and clueless guessers=Naughton,O'Ryan,Brown,Nevison,Persad,Mugnae and Dixon if he keeps sticking up 4 jockeys.

Part 2=Yates.

i'm no apologist for peter harris but at least the bloke tried his best to say what he thought when he was on RUK...

it was clear to me he didn't fit in to the cosy club and hasn't been seen for long enough.

meanwhile gordon brown turns up for the gig...

embarassing tbh...

Pushing their luck=Steedman and Hannity.

The nappy wearing Naughton a shocking omission imo .........

He was first on the list.

RUK for 5 years or a £1200 bet

Lord Snooty and friends are lording it up on Cristal at your expense.

Richmond is annoying but i have heard him get stuck into a few jockeys,so he stays.

RUK for 5 YEARS,thanks.

Steve Mellish is smoking an ounce a day of the finest hydro, at your expence.

Don't knock Neesom he's great

NO 1 TEAM=Hislop,Mellish,Neesom,Hoiles,Howard,Cunningham,LuckMorrisonFremantle and dear Willo.

Jun 10, 2012 -- 5:24PM, watchit wrote:

Triple did you used to work for RUK, how do you know Cunningham got a big sausage from Nick Luck?That was not on RUK

It was watchit,just before Xmas a couple of years ago.

Venison sausages,quince,and some cheese as a xmas present.Yifter still has the quince in his cupboard.

Forgot Hoiles and Freemantle, very good

No,afternoon.

Peter Harris couldn't even remember the names of the horses.

The Hannon horse,the Cumani horse,the Stoute horse etc etc............zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Peter Harris couldn't even remember the names of the horses.

The Hannon horse,the Cumani horse,the Stoute horse etc etc............zzzzzzzzzzzzz.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

much prefer that to 'oh what a great ride from ap'...

or

'paul hanagan gave me a bottle of champagne one day'

or

'do you prefer custard or rice pudding...?'




it's just all too cosy for my liking...

Think most of the RUK mob are fine.
The presenters are mostly excellent
The analysts are decent enough apart from Cunningham who is
top notch and the in running fella who seems very clued up.
The young kid has potential but speaks too fast and gets a lot of things wrong.

ATR is horrid apart from Matt and Boycie. How that very dim bird presenter has been kept on for so many years is truly appalling.