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This is the most absurd, ridiculous, mad, crackers, muppeted, stupid, mind blowingly, daft, insane, nonsense and totally barmy thread I have every read.
The morons who subscribed and commented are pocket talkers at best and totally ignorant of the game and it's values at worst.
He is simply the greatest exponent of a national hunt jockey there has ever ever been - end of.
To suggest his is not trying, gone at the game or anything else similar is just mindless stupidity.
If you can't see this then you need to switch off your computer, pack up and go home!
This is the most absurd, ridiculous, mad, crackers, muppeted, stupid, mind blowingly, daft, insane, nonsense and totally barmy thread I have every read.
The morons who subscribed and commented are pocket talkers at best and totally ignorant of the game and it's values at worst.
He is simply the greatest exponent of a national hunt jockey there has ever ever been - end of.
To suggest his is not trying, gone at the game or anything else similar is just mindless stupidity.
If you can't see this then you need to switch off your computer, pack up and go home!
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just ignore them...
there is a lay button they can use if not happy. fools |
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AP is the best NH jockey I have ever seen or ever will see. I cannot say much more than that.
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McCoy looked like hacking up on Stravita yesterday. It was good for me that he didn't . I was put off backing the horse as it drifted a bit too much for my liking. If the horse was considered to be iffy then I can understand the market slide. It just looked bad when after looking like trotting up , ( making a slight mistake) it found nil and drifted wide on the track.In hindsight Mc Coy would perhaps have set it alight before two out. Watching the betting in the last two or three minutes before the off generally tells you what is going to happen at the business end. I tend to lay anything that seems to have all the credentials, plus a top jockey, and still drifts.
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Where is this here thread please.
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lookin' a little wider than the 1 wide evilroyslade - have a look at the thread then you'll see the sort of cretins and greasers I'm talkin about.
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salmon spray - I think it's just been removed by betfair - quite rightly too as their were a number of horrid and mindless comments made by some faceless idiots.
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It has been removed Yorkie. I did see some of the comments on it earlier. Mc Coy cannot win really. I remember him driving one home that was TAILED OFF four out only last year. He was hailed as the messiah then, only to receive a bashing from those who thought he was TOO HARD on the horse in question. He looked like hacking up yesterday so I suppose some were counting their chickens prematurely. He cannot win.
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fair comment evilroy.
these characters don't last long on here, they'll lose all their money and be on their way. sadly they are replaced soon enough - the supply of short stay morons seems endless! |
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He only has one style
Most over rated jockey of all time . If he is the best ever , ehy does he have difficulty psesenting horses at hurdles . Would you rather have mc coy rather than - walsh , murphy , choc or geraghty . Mc coy would never come before the above mentioned for me NEVER . unless the beast in question was WICHITA oR INCA i know wich is dead by the way . Why is his record so poor in grade 1 chases , if hes the best ???? |
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Zealot - look at you're spelling, use of punctuation, construction of sentences - there a fookin' joke - just like your comments you complete numpty.
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he looks good because most of the n/hunt jockeys are so bad the worst i can remember hes no better then n/hunt jockeys of years ago and i dont trust him anymore
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yorkie - who gives a toss about punctuation and spelling .
My speeling is exceptional to be fair  Just go with the sheep . |
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Try watching the old jocks trying to ride a finish. A bit like Tom Finney trying to mix it with todays pro footballers.
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Construction of sentences ........... ha ha ha aha aha aha aha
What a complete PRYCK |
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It demonstrates your level of intelligence, brains etc... and therefore how likely you are to make any fookin' sense.
Enough said with the smiley faces eh... Careful Zealot, if you respond I will then own you just like I own Zodiac.... |
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My only worry when backing McCoy is the simple fact he struggles to see a stride. He is forever meeting the fence, or hurdle on a half stride. I am frantic if I have backed him on a novice chaser, he can be that bad sometimes. Yes his drive is 2nd to none, he generally always gets the best out of a horse, but if he is driving them into the fence or hurdle it sets all his good work back. There is not many jockeys who can be classed as better than him, but there are alot who are much better at getting them to jump.
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zealot -bang on the button.
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Its a bit annoying how Mccoy seems to hold up nearly all his winning rides and finish with a flourish these days
Seem to recall in the old days when he was stable jockey to martin pipe he was a jock who rode most of his winners from the front.Get the feeling he likes to play to the gallery a bit as he is the champ and SPOTY etc |
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bah bah bah AP is so strong bah bah bah hes superman bah bah bah hes the greatest bah bah bah bah bah bah
agree with toby......macoy insists on taking a pull in most races these days, trying to ride like ruby or timmy..but to do that you have to meet hdles spot on, which he isnt capable of doing all you AP fanatics...go back and watch his rides at towcester on sunday where he was nothing short of POOR EVEN ON THE FAV HE GOT UP ON IN THE LAST STRIDE |
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Bit late on this thread,Broadsword.
Had you been out ? I thought you spent your life sitting waiting for the next anti McCoy thread. They seem to be the only ones you ever appear on. |
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Watch his ride on MYTHICAL WARRIOR in the 3.40 at Uttoxeter on Sunday and tell me that was a trier
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Yorkie1;
"quite rightly too as their were a number of horrid and mindless comments made by some faceless idiots" Isn't that usually YOUR domain?  |
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Some of the Grade 1 or Grade a chases McCoy has won include the:
Cheltenham Gold Cup King George Queen Mother RSA Tingle Creek Arkle Powers Gold Cup Lexus Ryanair Victor Chandler Growise Champion Melling Maghull Novices Scilly Isles Feltham Ritz Club Galway Plate some of which he has won 2 or 3 times so it kind of puts paid to the claim that his record so poor in grade 1 chases, especially when you consider he's also won 5 Grand Nationals too. |
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Ima Mazed - I think he's won all but about THREE of the grade ones over jumps.
Triumph Hurdle is missing from his roll call and the Hennessey...can't remember the other one  |
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I had to cheat...it's the World Hurdle that's the other one missing from the list of long established grade ones.
He's not won a Betfair Chase yet or the Neptune but there haven't been that many renewals of those races, and I'm sure they'll be on his hit-list before he retires. Nevertheless...considering he has nowhere near the ammunition of Ruby Walsh, it's a fine achievement. |
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It all adds to his CV what you are saying Foetus and can't do his reputation any harm but in fairness the claim was that he had a poor record for grade 1 chases but even that isn't the case anyway.
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msd dog mick, how long you been racing. forget him for jj and jp. just back him for othrt owners and trainers
.nudge nudge wink wink, without a doubt theGREATEST EVER. |
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more of the same
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Very strong jockey by far the best 3 or 4 years ago.Not nearly so good now imo.
When he went to Jonjo he knew exactly how that yard operates and now he rides accordingly when required. |
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Not his finest hour imho
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toronto44
When he went to Jonjo he knew exactly how that yard operates and now he rides accordingly when required. What does that even mean? I know what it's probably suppose to but can't help get the feeling it's just a way of saying a lot about nothing without too many specifics. No offence meant personally but there does seem to be quite a lot of that kind of thing on here and usually not with much basis to it and more just said for the sake of it every time one of theirs is beaten. |
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No offence also Ima-m but if you do not understand what i am saying and do not know the way jonjos yard operate.Then there is not too much more to say.
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He is an awesome jockey, but I did not like the way he rode the two short priced ones today
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Great jockey perhaps the best ever but that fabled ride on Get Me Out Of Here left a very bitter taste in my mouth
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No offence taken toronto44 but understanding it and agreeing that it's the case are two different things.
What I tend to think whenever anyone flags up an apparent dodgy ride is what do they have to gain from it and whatever it is do the benefits outweigh the risks? I'm not entirely sure which Get Me Out Of Here ride you mean barkinggreville but what specifically do you feel was wrong with it and then just out of interest how would you respond to the questions above in under the circumstances? |
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What stables have to gain from it,is considerable and consistent amounts of easy risk free money by laying.Also getting handicap marks down in order to have huge gambles in big races ie Cheltenham.The wealthiest of the wealthy always want more,world leaders.Russian oligarchs,crime bosses,ex UK Prime ministers etc etc
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shut up yorkie you utter imbecile
GRADE 1'S Bets Wins Win Strike Rate Win %Return at Estimated Betfair Odds R WALSH 430 122 28.4% 111.3% A P MCCOY 386 84 21.8% 91.3% R THORNTON 218 44 20.2% 88.4% T J MURPHY 212 59 27.8% 140.3% R JOHNSON 207 37 17.9% 77.6% B J GERAGHTY 183 47 25.7% 97.0% on prices up to 15-2 Why is the greatest ever BY A MILE not head and shoulders above WHY ???????????????????? |
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I'm not saying McCoy is or isn't the greatest ever as these things can't really be truly measured but in answer to that table it's probably because Ruby Walsh rides for the top trainer in both England and Ireland.
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