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On Jubilee weekend IMPERIAL MONARCH for me
hope he doesn't receive an exaggerated hold up ride struggle to find the gaps round here young Joseph
Selections people??
hope he doesn't receive an exaggerated hold up ride struggle to find the gaps round here young Joseph
Selections people??
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Imperial Moanrch for me but for different reasons make sure to back on the PMU I would be surprised if he goes off less than 9/1 on that
Part of me wants this to win but part of me still peed that it didn't go to Epsom!!
does anyone have a link ...video or radio to view the race?
yeah I done a bit of $$$ with him not going Epsom
this is likely to be messy though I think
this is likely to be messy though I think
IM mullered out of it but the way he finished you would wonder with a clear run he would have had to gone close
now thats what you call stupidity.
why go on the inside where there was never gonna be room?
why go on the inside where there was never gonna be room?
agree .
for future reference,can someone who as instant access always put up the 1,2,3 on all threads.
for future reference,can someone who as instant access always put up the 1,2,3 on all threads.
Dreadful stuff from the boy wonder there.
Best horse in the race imo.
Best horse in the race imo.
french fifteen had no sort of run either,finished full of running
very presumtious to say he was best horse imho. Race was brutal so can't blame him alone. winner was given cracking ride im sad to say given i backed 2nd and 3rd
they called Saint B 2nd and Nutello 3rd...Stewards.
So much for those that would have our Derby with lots of runners, nightmare that was.
Crazy race.
Crazy race.
Stewards but here is how they went by the post
17 - 6 - 19 - 2 - 18
17 - 6 - 19 - 2 - 18
imho 
watching the replay.
a complete horrorshow.
hard to say how many lengths he lost....im sure he would have won.
a complete horrorshow.
hard to say how many lengths he lost....im sure he would have won.
not sure you can reverse placing with the stuff that went on...someone might get a DQ here.
that horse who decided to drop out caused a lot of problems.
Betfair Starting Price: 617.365729
800.00 ir and never went shorter than 44.00
800.00 ir and never went shorter than 44.00
win or not given absolutely FA chance
it was a "cool confident ride"
it was a "cool confident ride"
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French Derby winner Saonois returned a Betfair SP of 617 and the last price matched was 95
French Derby winner Saonois returned a Betfair SP of 617 and the last price matched was 95
Has anyone got an idea how the race-card order is done in these French races? 
Oh dear head on of Sanois :o carnage all the way.
official...positions remain unaltered.
weighed in.
weighed in.
Saint Baudolini was an absolute jailcase beat there
best horse in the race for sure
imperial monarch is a slow animal
best horse in the race for sure
imperial monarch is a slow animal
i like the italian sprinter later on elise...noble hachy. took 10/1 earlier.
at least hill would have gone out in front and given it a few love taps
TheTrainer...JOINED TODAY.
On what possible evidence can you class Imperial Monarch as slow ?????????
On what possible evidence can you class Imperial Monarch as slow ?????????
he's been given two soft leads to be fair, but at least he's taken advantage
yeah the slowcaoch was only going faster than anything else once it stretched its legs.
Flyingbolt, on the evidence that he has no apparent tactical speed judged on the race we have just seen
Flyingbolt, on the evidence that he has no apparent tactical speed judged on the race we have just seen
"tactical speed" given the absolute traffic jam in front
checked the replay a few times and there was not a lot the jock could have done.
he was stuck most of the way round.
he was stuck most of the way round.
Yes G1 but he was there because that was where he chose to be.
how can you choose to be somewhere with horses in front and both sides??
had a choice in the straight and chose the inside....which was wrong.
he never had any choices for quite a few furlongs before that
had a choice in the straight and chose the inside....which was wrong.
he never had any choices for quite a few furlongs before that
the horse didnt have the tactical speed to acquire an early position
Presumably if he lacked tactical speed it was a pretty stupid decision to run him?
Just caught the result. Winner's price astounding. Can anyone on here ever recall a 33-1 shot return a Betfair SP of over 600-1. Won a Gp 3 on penultimate start and beaten 3/4L by Kesampour last time out. Bewildering stuff.
G1
He had plenty of time to take a better position before the straight. Even when they hit the straight a blind man could see there was never going to be an opening on the inside. He should have switched outside straight away.
The main damage was done in not taking a better position earlier.
As for you TheTrainer as the horse never came off the bridle until after he'd been hampered you are guessing.........badly.
He had plenty of time to take a better position before the straight. Even when they hit the straight a blind man could see there was never going to be an opening on the inside. He should have switched outside straight away.
The main damage was done in not taking a better position earlier.
As for you TheTrainer as the horse never came off the bridle until after he'd been hampered you are guessing.........badly.
yeah he was on the bridle at the back of the pack, he actually got a cleaner trip than most until they turned in, no barging about running up the back of horses on the way round, he was pulled wide and got outpaced for a few strides, then ran on.
decent stayer but too slow for a race like this.
decent stayer but too slow for a race like this.
Watch it again.
He ran in the back of horses and lost at least 3 lengths and considerable momentum.
He ran in the back of horses and lost at least 3 lengths and considerable momentum.
You can't blame Joseph because the French were being French. It was a messy race - as was expected.
ive watched it 4 times from start to finish, his lack of tactical speed has got him in alot more trouble than he should have been in.
Saint Baudolino got murdered the whole way, watch him and you see a horse who would have been passing rivals on the bridle if he had the gaps, the same cannot be said of Imperial Monarch.
Saint Baudolino got murdered the whole way, watch him and you see a horse who would have been passing rivals on the bridle if he had the gaps, the same cannot be said of Imperial Monarch.
"THE FRENCH WERE BEING FRENCH"
wtf is that supposed to mean ?
Did he think they were going to move over and let him up the inside ?
wtf is that supposed to mean ?
Did he think they were going to move over and let him up the inside ?
They came round that bend and all looked to come inside as they always seem to do - "the French being French".
His inexperience wouldn't have helped but it didn't even look as if he wanted to come up the inside, he was just left with no place to go. They concertinaed, that wasn't Joseph's fault.
It was supposed to be a Group 1 race ffs.
His inexperience wouldn't have helped but it didn't even look as if he wanted to come up the inside, he was just left with no place to go. They concertinaed, that wasn't Joseph's fault.
It was supposed to be a Group 1 race ffs.
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