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AraziTheGreatest
16 May 12 17:26
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no bet on race - that decision stinks

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By:
golden
When: 16 May 12 17:28
They should be able to give a dead heat, then both parties are atleast 50% happy.
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 17:34
the correct decision was made stop talking out your backside
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 16 May 12 17:36
Absolute nonsense eddie but I'm sure you backing the winner has nothing to do with your opinion.
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 17:42
has nothing to do with me backing the winner i said it wouldnt get ammended on my thread jockey did everthing he could and i dont think it affected the result
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 17:44
its all about opinions, firstly i'm glad you won mate.

i cant see that being pushed that far over the track in closing stages isn't worth a sht head though.

if that ever happens to me in future these stewards better be consistent and give the same decision!
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 17:45
when would you ever ammend

only if runner up stops riding?

if the winner had got passed and got back up i'd have thought fair play but the runner up could never get past and the head on suggests a plausible reason why imo.

anyways thats that, no more to say.
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 17:51
bored with it now the problem with you lot is you see the betting change and all end up gobbing off saying it should get chucked out. the stewards took along time and made the correct decision
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 17:58
thats condescending cr*p

totally no need for that

you have an opinion on that race i have one. ive ridden horses and im telling you that being carried over the track is worth more than a sht hd.

i wouldn't ever expect much common sense for stewards looking at most of them.
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 16 May 12 17:58
Eddie your making a fool of yourself now.

What has the odds got to do with it? What about the people that laid the winner at 1/3(that is what it opened up at) in the stewards are they following the betting as well?

You backed the winner well done but you got lucky in the stewards.
By:
denathorn
When: 16 May 12 17:58
Hamish mcgonnagal anyone?
By:
capewine
When: 16 May 12 18:01
sec was Tony McGlone...former work rider for Cecil. Wonder if he's ever met Eddie. A quite ridiculous decision and one that Erik Penser will get in the nuthouse in London.
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:01
load of fooking idiots on here
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:05
all saying its a disgrace should have been ammended odds on gonnabe chucked out so why didnt they disqualify it then enlighten me oh i forgot i just got lucky
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:05
yeah eddy

you've disappointed me here,usually have a lot of time for you.

poor attitude on this as though everyone else who disagrees is fool!
By:
harter
When: 16 May 12 18:05
Just out of curiosity - I'm somewhat new to UK racing. Had the stewards decided that the 1 horse's veering impeded horses other than the 2nd place horse could he be moved back further?  I know in North America if the winner interferes (say) with the 4th place horse then the winner would be put back to 4th with the others moving up.

However in the UK for races I've seen it seems that inquiries are rarely called unless it's the second place horse against the first. Also I've seen instances where the winner will have an inquiry against him and the BF odds will have movement on the horse to win and a horse that (say) ran 5th. If the stewards decide that the 5th place horse was interfered with by the winner then the 5th place horse takes top spot?? In North America the winner would be placed 5th, 2nd moves to 1st, 3rd to 2nd etc.
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:11
not saying you are a fool anfield am saying that you all jump on the bandwagon somebody says should be chucked out everybody joins in i looked at the race and came to my conclusion not follow everybody else good job the stewards did the same
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 16 May 12 18:12
If the stewards decide that the 5th place horse was interfered with by the winner then the 5th place horse takes top spot??

No, unless the first 4 took the wrong course or carried the wrong weight.
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:15
the thing is eddy i dont jump on bandwagons mate

i have an opinion, it may be wrong but its all i've got.
By:
AraziTheGreatest
When: 16 May 12 18:16
anyone know where you can find out the details of the enquiry?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 16 May 12 18:18
Arazi, the bha website
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:20
enlighten me why didnt they chuck it out if it was such a obvious decision please dont tell me i just got lucky
By:
AraziTheGreatest
When: 16 May 12 18:21
cheers George,

might write to them asking for an explanation of that and consistency etc - I do like to have an official moan now and again.
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:24
didn't see your post earlier dena

i wonder if anyone backed the winner (who finished first and was chucked) that day and the runner up today

they'd be pulling their hair out!
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:24
you could do a petition arazi you could get a lot of signatures especially off most betfair forumites
By:
AraziTheGreatest
When: 16 May 12 18:24
eddy, there is no point trying to argue against you as you are blinded by the bias of your bet on the winner. I doubt very much your opinion would be the same had you been on the 2nd horse.

Any sane racing person with half a brain would be surprised that the stewards did not throw the winner out.
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:25
i dont see any consistency with the 2 decisions

thats the problem with the stewards and the perception many of us hold about them!
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:25
*ie the hamish mcgonagall incident and todays
By:
stridingedge
When: 16 May 12 18:27
as with many things in life there are two opposite views here

we are all entitled to our opinions

no one should be derided for theirs.

its what makes life interesting.
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 16 May 12 18:27
Has someone hacked Eddy's account?
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 16 May 12 18:29
It was a poor decision,2nd should have got the race. Not the first or last race the stewards have got badly wrong
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 18:30
look i ask again if it was such an obvious decision tell me why they didnt ammend the result we are just punters they get paid to be stewards so i am not the only person who thinks it didnt need to be ammended
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 16 May 12 18:32
Why and what the stewards decide is always a mystery tbf, hardly consistent.
By:
capewine
When: 16 May 12 18:58
hey Eddy...you're a fckg halfwit. Go away for a while
By:
cool eddy
When: 16 May 12 19:00
oh look another sand skier backer Grin
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 16 May 12 19:06
saying Nicole Nordblad would definitely have got one up is...LaughLaugh
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 17 May 12 00:56
I suggested it on RUK one night that where the stewards are unable to be sure that interference affected a result - and lets face it most of the time it is impossible to be 100% sure - then they should award a dead-heat.

That way, nobody can complain - not punters or connections.

Needless to say my idea was ridiculed...
By:
BARNEY21.
When: 17 May 12 08:26
Was it detrimental to the runner up YES it was,was it beneficial to the winner again YES it was,the wainner carried the runner up off a true line not vice versa really should have been a no brainer whether the jockey did his best or otherwise they interfered with the runner up being able to run in a straight line,horses that are carried across the track by their own actions lose many lengths so??
By:
AraziTheGreatest
When: 17 May 12 11:56
I can't believe the official report:

The Stewards held an enquiry under Rule (B)11.6 into possible interference on the run to the line. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race, they found that the winner, STAR COMMANDER, ridden by Eddie Ahern, had interfered with SAND SKIER, ridden by Nicole Nordblad, placed second, and that the interference had not improved STAR COMMANDER’s placing. They ordered the placings to remain unaltered. The Stewards found Ahern in breach of Rule (B)54.1 and guilty of careless riding in that he had allowed his horse to drift right without correction. They suspended him for 2 days as follows: Wednesday 30 and Thursday 31 May 2012.
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