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A war of words between rival UK bookmakers is being played out in the national media, with William Hill being accused of using excessive marketing hype to draw attention to itself.
William Hill, the gambling and sports betting giant, rattled its competitors when it claimed that a £500,000 bet to win £100,000 was made by one of its punters on the hurdler Big Buck's during the recent Grand National Festival at Aintree.
William Hill said that the bet - which will go down as the biggest single wager taken in its 78 year history - was made by one of its clients with a credit card in the South of England. The bet was placed in a High Street betting shop.
According to The Daily Mail(article below), William Hill is only providing selective information about the wager, a move which has earned the wrath of rival groups who are accusing the group are excessive and perhaps doubtful hype.
In addition, the competition is grumbling over William Hill's claims that it believes £1 billion will be wagered through the groups land and online facilities during the FA Cup semi finals, as well as National Week.
David Stevens of Coral gambling group was open about what his company felt about William Hill's claims. "One betting firm is out on its own with the publicity tactics it's pursuing," he said. "At least the rest of us have semblance of truth in what we claim."
Ladbrokes bookmaker also slammed Will Hill, with company spokesman, David Williams saying: "This is irresponsible, it's out of hand!"
But despite William Hill rattling rival bookmakers, the betting group was firm in its stance, and backed its claims by providing the Daily Mail with a copy of the 1/5 odds-on betting slip of the mysterious South England Aintree punter.
"We're the leading bookmaker," said Kate Miller of William Hill. "We don't have to make things up and have audited accounts."
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Daily Mail
Believe the hype? You bet, say Hills
By Charles Sale Daily Mail
William Hill are providing only selective information about the extraordinary £500,000 bet to win £100,000 on record-breaking hurdler Big Buck’s, which is being viewed with disbelief by rival firms.
Other bookies, not averse to excessive hype themselves, are outraged by the extra yards Hills went to gain publicity during the Grand National meeting by making allegedly overly-ambitious claims about their share of the market.
These include not only the disputed Big Buck’s bet last Thursday, which Hills will only say was struck by one of their clients via a credit card in a High Street betting shop in the south of England, but also the Hills estimation that £1billion would be wagered with them during FA Cup semi-finals and National week.
Ladbrokes’ David Williams said: ‘This is irresponsible; it’s got out of hand.’ David Stevens of Coral, added: ‘One betting firm is out on its own with the publicity tactics it’s pursuing. At least the rest of us have a semblance of truth in what we claim.’
William Hill’s Kate Miller, who had a scanned copy of the 1-5 odds-on betting slip supplied by the company’s trading chief on her laptop, said: ‘We’re the leading bookmaker. We don’t have to make things up and have audited accounts.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2130220/Charles-Sale-Believe-hype-You-bet-say-Hills.html#ixzz1sP49eNok
A war of words between rival UK bookmakers is being played out in the national media, with William Hill being accused of using excessive marketing hype to draw attention to itself.
William Hill, the gambling and sports betting giant, rattled its competitors when it claimed that a £500,000 bet to win £100,000 was made by one of its punters on the hurdler Big Buck's during the recent Grand National Festival at Aintree.
William Hill said that the bet - which will go down as the biggest single wager taken in its 78 year history - was made by one of its clients with a credit card in the South of England. The bet was placed in a High Street betting shop.
According to The Daily Mail(article below), William Hill is only providing selective information about the wager, a move which has earned the wrath of rival groups who are accusing the group are excessive and perhaps doubtful hype.
In addition, the competition is grumbling over William Hill's claims that it believes £1 billion will be wagered through the groups land and online facilities during the FA Cup semi finals, as well as National Week.
David Stevens of Coral gambling group was open about what his company felt about William Hill's claims. "One betting firm is out on its own with the publicity tactics it's pursuing," he said. "At least the rest of us have semblance of truth in what we claim."
Ladbrokes bookmaker also slammed Will Hill, with company spokesman, David Williams saying: "This is irresponsible, it's out of hand!"
But despite William Hill rattling rival bookmakers, the betting group was firm in its stance, and backed its claims by providing the Daily Mail with a copy of the 1/5 odds-on betting slip of the mysterious South England Aintree punter.
"We're the leading bookmaker," said Kate Miller of William Hill. "We don't have to make things up and have audited accounts."
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Daily Mail
Believe the hype? You bet, say Hills
By Charles Sale Daily Mail
William Hill are providing only selective information about the extraordinary £500,000 bet to win £100,000 on record-breaking hurdler Big Buck’s, which is being viewed with disbelief by rival firms.
Other bookies, not averse to excessive hype themselves, are outraged by the extra yards Hills went to gain publicity during the Grand National meeting by making allegedly overly-ambitious claims about their share of the market.
These include not only the disputed Big Buck’s bet last Thursday, which Hills will only say was struck by one of their clients via a credit card in a High Street betting shop in the south of England, but also the Hills estimation that £1billion would be wagered with them during FA Cup semi-finals and National week.
Ladbrokes’ David Williams said: ‘This is irresponsible; it’s got out of hand.’ David Stevens of Coral, added: ‘One betting firm is out on its own with the publicity tactics it’s pursuing. At least the rest of us have a semblance of truth in what we claim.’
William Hill’s Kate Miller, who had a scanned copy of the 1-5 odds-on betting slip supplied by the company’s trading chief on her laptop, said: ‘We’re the leading bookmaker. We don’t have to make things up and have audited accounts.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2130220/Charles-Sale-Believe-hype-You-bet-say-Hills.html#ixzz1sP49eNok
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Other firms not happy that Billys have not been using the agreed lying equation for PR. Double the actual bet and add a zero is the usual method
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When thieves fall out............
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guys insane putting a bet like that on
obviously doesnt need the money |
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If they all took a lie detector test the prisons would be choc full of bookies reps and spokespersons, they lie for a pastime.
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muliple choice outcome 500k
A 0 B no bet--safe C 600k |
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what good would 100k be to someone who bets 500k in one bet where so many factors could happen against them....
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"We're the leading bookmaker," said Kate Miller of William Hill. "We don't have to make things up and have audited accounts."
Remarkable that they do spend so much time making things up then really. |
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its like a poker bet
no pro would risk 500k--for 100k pot |
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I thought the quote of At least the rest of us have a semblance of truth in what we claim.’ was quite revealing
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a credit card to punt 500k
lol what about money laundering claims, and how did they pay out the 100k ??? out of the fobt ??? |
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the leading bookmakers who didn't price Dundalk up until after 10.45am, and after every other firm had priced up....
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Seems like its accepted practice to put out a pile of lies provided theres the slightest element of it being taken as gospel.
Unfortunately there aint a prayer of anyone swallowing this garbage. |
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beat me to it slightly there y-h-t-l.
I wouldn't particularly doubt that the bet may have been struck, it's only a £100K take out after all. Who places a £500K CREDIT card bet though? very odd for starters - why not call in to the phone centre. Secondly, if that is the biggest bet they've ever struck then they are nowhere near the "biggest bookmaker" on that basis. I know at least 3 firms that have laid considerably bigger... Agreed their PR is highly tedious at the moment though. |
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As mentioned above - what sort of person who has a credit card with a £500k+ limit is going to walk into a betting shop to put that bet on.
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the Hills bird reps would have you running for the Blue Oyster Bar...the hack of them...
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complainted to the BBC about the validity of the wager asking what steps where taken to substansiate the story, suggesting there where possibly guilty of breaching advertising guidelines and reporting lies.
Got a email back saying they regretted I didnt like them carrying one of the major stories of the day, no answer to how they checked there facts, shouldnt be surprised they also carried the story about Frankel on Saturday. Says it all about the BBC |
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Hills have been sending staff in to place bets with rivals for donkeys years , I have seen them do it in my younger years, doubtless they use the exchanges also as bookmakers are the biggest gamblers with office money going
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bookmakers are not the biggest gamblers bf_fanatic,they are the biggest arbers.
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true, agreed
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that will be the staff's own bets bf_fananananatic...
Can't see Hills sending company money out as cash bets somehow... |
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BF is correct.I worked for Mecca(BEFORE WH took over). We did fairfield but not for the reason you think but we done it with full permission from the area office. We use to have to go to Lads, Corals in the morning and put bets on each till then do the same in the evening..Docket counts was all it was for, just to see what the rivals were doing. They are all at it.
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i cant get 50 quid on with this shower...they showed the betting slip too..probably their own credit card..500,000 on a credit card...imagine the call from the visa guy.."hello mr hilly,do u know someone has just requested half a million quid on ur visa card".."yes that is correct my young man,just keep it hush and press ur buttons like u have done before"....oh ok mr hilly and will that be the usual arrangement?"yes young man,yes ur free monthly bet is been credited to ur account as we speak"....so its £50 credit this time mr hilly...what young man, are u crazy..we only take £5 from riff raff like you..now p off...oh ok mr hilly and thanks again..talk soon
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Doesn't matter whether they took it or not.
The only certainty is they would have had it back on the exchanges at bigger.. |
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Slip counts fine AD - all firms do that. I meant laying off.
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You may struggle to get authorisation from head office for a slip check of £250,000 on each till at your local competitor, Anaglogs.
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I meant a 25p yankee,
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I'm suprised this has t been noted already but it isn't possible to use a credit card in the shops, debit yes credit no?
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If it was someone with a credit card limit like that, he probably had a towel wrapped round his noggin and they would take it..
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why would you hedge a soft bet , and why bother to seed a mkt with 500k into a rival competitor?
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debit/ credit cards in shops(ireland) take 10 mins to authorize. I have done it.
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Ireland isn't in the south of England
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if as has already been stated a credit card was used for this
transaction then a 2.5% cash advance would have been imposed on the customers account i believe !! this would have cost the client approx £12500 had he used a debit card then no fee applies generally no brainer imo |
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zilzal, has said everything that needs to be said about this....lying is ok, but exaggerated lying , well its just not cricket,..
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its not even important whether the bet was placed or not. lets say it was? who gives a flying fook. u still wont get a ton on a 3/1 shot if u wanted. the article is pointless as if to brag at the large wagers theyre laying when EVERYONE knows the average punter cant get 2 bananas to a banana.
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British bookmaker's push for Nevada gaming license delayed
18 April 2012 by Chris Sieroty http://www.casinocitytimes.com ENGLAND AND NEVADA -- Is William Hill PLC's $53 million investment in Nevada in trouble? No. But the British bookmaker's efforts to gain a Nevada gaming license have been delayed, despite previous expectations that regulators would vote in May. The company is seeking a license after last year's announcement that it will acquire three sports betting companies in Las Vegas. Nevada gaming regulators were expected to consider William Hill's license application next month, but it has not been included on the May agenda. The Guardian newspaper in London reports the application was delayed while the Nevada Gaming Control Board takes a closer look at two issues -- Robin Chhabra, William Hill's head of strategy and corporate development, and the company's ties to Playtech in Israel. Chhabra, who was responsible for the Nevada acquisitions, is a former equity analyst who was fined approximately $150,000 by the Financial Services Authority after he "passed confidential information" to a friend, The Guardian reported. Chhabra is not expected to have a management role with the new acquisitions. Nevada regulators are also interested in the company's business ties to Playtech, the Israeli online gambling company that is a joint venture with William Hill online. Playtech is 40 percent owned by its founder, Teddy Sagi, a Tel Aviv-born businessman who was convicted of fraud and bribery in 1996. Control Board Chairman Mark Lipparelli was unavailable for comment Tuesday. William Hill in April 2011 agreed to buy American Wagering Inc., the parent of Leroy's Horse & Sports Place sports books and kiosks, for $18 million. John English, American Wagering's senior vice president of business development and public affairs, said it is "not uncommon for licensing delays to happen." "This is part of the normal process and proves the Gaming Control Board is taking their time and being thorough," English said by telephone from Miami. "We expect William Hill to be a great asset to Nevada." The company also purchased Club Cal Neva Satellite Race and Sports book division in Northern Nevada for $21 million and Brandywine Bookmaking LLC, which operates Lucky's sports books, for $14.25 million. Brandywine Bookmaking President and CEO Joe Asher declined to comment. David G. Schwartz, director the University of Nevada, Las Vegas' Center for Gaming Research, said William Hill's reputation in Nevada depends a lot on what it will do when it's licensed. He said the bookmaker is buying three companies that are already successful and have proven track records. William Hill has always said licensing would take 12 to 18 months. In February, it told shareholders the licensing process in Nevada was expected to be completed by this summer . To be licensed in Nevada, the state's three-member Gaming Control Board must first approve William Hill's application, and then final approval by the five-member Nevada Gaming Commission. The delay was not expected to affect William Hill's profitability. The company reported revenues of $1.81 billion last year, a 6 percent increase from the $1.71 billion reported in 2010. William Hill reported an after-tax profit of $233.4 million. "Our strategic focus continues to be on developing our products to enhance the customer experience, on broadening and strengthening our channels to maximize our customer reach and on developing the business internationally," William Hill Chief Executive Officer Ralph Topping told shareholders in late February. Obtaining a Nevada gaming license is considered strategically important, as state regulators recently approved online poker regulations for play within the state. Twenty-six companies had applied for a Nevada online gaming license as of March 26. The first online poker licenses are expected to be approved in June. |
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didnt parrot and co show a laddies betting slip showing a 50 grand bet on synchronised at 12 to 1, thats even harder to believe
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if true i,d assume thats a slip showing laddies layed 50 grand to everyone at 12,s
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A commercial PR person's job is to mislead people - nothing else...
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