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tippu
15 Apr 12 19:49
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Grand National winner with Neptune Collanges. And Champion Trainer for NH.
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Report Ken O'sback April 15, 2012 8:10 PM BST
good call lass  makes up for all the derogaty posts earlier
Report Ken O'sback April 15, 2012 8:11 PM BST
oops ""Derogatory""
Report tippu April 15, 2012 8:27 PM BST
Glad you have joined my sentiments, KenO'. Lot of rubbish on here today and nowhere have I seen congratulations for either feat. Thought this was a racing forum?
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:29 PM BST
All he is short is the champion hurdle.....then he will have won all the big ones.....
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 8:33 PM BST
He deserves all the plaudits he gets,a true legend of the game.
Report onlooker April 15, 2012 8:33 PM BST
keep lookingfor .......

2012     Rock On Ruby     7 yr     Noel Fehily     Paul Nicholls
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:35 PM BST
Very unassuming is paul.....doesnt like the limelight much.....real real nice person.....everybody should be thrilled for him......
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:37 PM BST
Onlooker

Rock On Ruby 2012 7yr Noel Fehilly Harry Fry
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:37 PM BST
Looks after his staff well
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 8:41 PM BST
Jeaulosy is a very destructive emotion.Don't let it eat you up!Laugh
Report Eeeyore April 15, 2012 8:42 PM BST
Nice one Mr Nicholls congratulations,you are a credit to National Hunt racing Happy
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:44 PM BST
Its not jealousy ya tool.....if they took off the prizemoney that this yard won for him.....then henderson would be the rightful champion.....this yard i may add ......which is nearly 30 miles away.....
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:45 PM BST
an extra 30k pool money to be shared out between the staff is a nice end of season bonus.Cool
Report Eeeyore April 15, 2012 8:46 PM BST
^^^I expect they made that backing neptunes yesterday WinkGrin
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:47 PM BST
the landlord at the local is a happy man
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:48 PM BST
If the 30k is shared the same way as the credit ....then it will be 29,500 for Nicholls.....and a fiver each for the staff.....
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:49 PM BST
Is that the landlord at Ditcheat.....or the one 30 miles away.....where Harry Fry trains Rock on Ruby....
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:50 PM BST
your wrong there mate
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:51 PM BST
who else is trained at the barber yard as you seem well informed?
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:52 PM BST
If im wrong.....it might be that its 25 miles away......it aint any closer.....
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:55 PM BST
More than likely half his runners are trained there.....Barber is the boss.....Nicholls is only the pissboy.....same as skelton is......
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 8:56 PM BST
Done your conkers!Excited
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 8:58 PM BST
you know f all mate after that comment
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 8:59 PM BST
Typically retarded reply.....done your conkers plus the stupid smiley.....does nicholls train Rock On ruby.....answer is no......
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 8:59 PM BST
Laugh
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 9:01 PM BST
did you lay PN for the championship after oscar won on sat as you seem very bitter towards the man?
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 9:02 PM BST
And you know fukk all if ya think Nicholls trained Rock On Ruby.....he didnt ya tool.....is all Harry Frys prizemoney included under Nicholls?.....yes and it shouldnt be.....henderson is the champion trainer....if right was right.....
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 9:03 PM BST
you had better let the BHA know as they are probably unaware of this
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 9:05 PM BST
Only interested in fair play ......hate people that take undeserved acclaim......rock on ruby may as easy have run under Hendersons name......he saw as much of the horse as Nicholls did.....
Report ithinkigotawaywithit April 15, 2012 9:08 PM BST
rock on ruby won about 250k this season. Nicholls is nearly twice that in front at the moment
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 9:10 PM BST
So rock on ruby is down there on his own is he?......
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 9:10 PM BST
Do your homework.

It is not rocket science is it?Grin
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 9:11 PM BST
Busvaldo.....shut up ya fool ya.....
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 9:13 PM BST
Cool
Report GAMBLINGJOCKEY April 15, 2012 9:15 PM BST
hey wildman. So why is it ROR not at dtcheat, do you actually lnow??
Report GAMBLINGJOCKEY April 15, 2012 9:20 PM BST
Come on mouth or are you trying to find the answer on GOOGLE?
Report Andrew in Sweden April 15, 2012 9:46 PM BST
So, coming into this year’s Cheltenham Festival he was just a Champion Hurdle shy of the full complement and that was put right by the impressive performance of Rock On Ruby. Or was it?

Perhaps it was ignorance on my part, but I didn’t realise that Champion Hurdler Rock On Ruby was trained at a ‘satellite yard’ and not in Ditcheat, where he would be under the constant scrutiny of the British champion trainer.

It never crossed my mind to question it — why would it?

Possibly not the biggest deal in the world, after all he was still under the tutelage of one of the best trainers in the business and his influence over the horse would be strong.

In the post-race interviews, however, it became increasingly obvious the horse was being trained by Harry Fry, under the stewardship of Richard Barber, under the sometimes stewardship of Paul Nicholls.

In fact, the following quote from Harry Fry puts into question just how much influence Nicholls actually exerts: "Paul comes down here when he can, but we have all the facilities here and we are left to our own devices. We always liaise regarding race planning as there is no point taking each other on if we don’t have to."

The language is quite distinct, as, it would seem, is the line of separation.

If ‘Paul comes down here when he can’ equates to training the horse, I can make similar claims to having reared my nieces and nephews, having babysat them a couple of times.

Perhaps that’s an exaggeration, but it raises question marks.

The assertion that there is ‘no point in taking each other on’ also indicates independent operations, as does a further revelation from Fry that: ’We look after 25 in the satellite yard, mostly the ones we sourced ourselves which is why they stay with us. Some are sent to us by Paul if they won’t go up his gallop, for instance".

The more I heard, the more it sounded to me like Nicholls has had little or no interaction with some of the 25 horses. Look, this isn’t intended to be a slight on Paul Nicholls, or Harry Fry or Richard Barber and theirs isn’t the first instance of the use of a satellite yard, but the distinction between the two yards seems absolute and it’s just another case of information that punters should be party to from the outset.

Coming into this year’s Festival, there were doubts over the well-being of the Nicholls team, with reports of some of the string coughing. That was a major concern and one which proved well-founded as a number of the horses failed to fire at all or didn’t pick up in the manner expected.

Did horses from one yard run better than the ones from the other? The answer shouldn’t matter. It’s not something punters should have to concern themselves with because the situation should never arise.

Would I be as inclined to back a Harry Fry or Richard Barber horse in a championship race as I would a Paul Nicholls horse? Maybe. Maybe not. But, at the very least, I’d like to feel safe in the knowledge that whatever the name beside the horse, it is that of the actual trainer. I don’t think that’s asking too much, is it?


This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Saturday, March 24, 2012
Report Busvaldo April 15, 2012 9:53 PM BST
It's the game,like it or not.

What do you want to do?
Report lookingforthewildman April 15, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Shut up busvaldo ya complete tool ya.....Gambling jockey ya knobbend ......the article said this years champion hurdle winner was trained by Harry fry under the tutelage of Richard barber.....
Report WestRat April 15, 2012 11:50 PM BST
This part concerns me most as I backed a couple of his that pulled up really quick. - I think at least it should be published which yard which horse is at.

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Coming into this year’s Festival, there were doubts over the well-being of the Nicholls team, with reports of some of the string coughing. That was a major concern and one which proved well-founded as a number of the horses failed to fire at all or didn’t pick up in the manner expected.

Did horses from one yard run better than the ones from the other? The answer shouldn’t matter. It’s not something punters should have to concern themselves with because the situation should never arise.

Would I be as inclined to back a Harry Fry or Richard Barber horse in a championship race as I would a Paul Nicholls horse? Maybe. Maybe not. But, at the very least, I’d like to feel safe in the knowledge that whatever the name beside the horse, it is that of the actual trainer. I don’t think that’s asking too much, is it
Report lookingforthewildman April 16, 2012 10:19 AM BST
And then all the Nicholls adoration society......suddenly vanished.....
Report Facts April 16, 2012 11:34 AM BST
lookingforthewildman     15 Apr 12 22:12 
Shut up busvaldo ya complete tool ya.....Gambling jockey ya knobbend ......the article said this years champion hurdle winner was trained by Harry fry under the tutelage of Richard barber.....




What's the difference between this and every head /captain of industries/banks. They don't 'do the work', but they are credited with achieving the success and receive the appropriate renumeration/awards etc.
That's life.Rock On Ruby is officially trained by P.Nicholls. It runs under that 'heading'. so when it wins - PN receives the plaudits.

You might rant and rave and object to it - but those are the facts - and nothing will change it.
Report lookingforthewildman April 16, 2012 11:41 AM BST
What has industry and banks got to do with anything related to horseracing?......rock on ruby is officially trained by Nicholls.....yes he is but the fact is.....he doesnt train it at all.....Officially Nicholls is champion trainer and winner of a champion hurdle.....factually speaking seeing that you like facts.....he has never won a champion hurdle.....harry fry has though.....
Report GAMBLINGJOCKEY April 16, 2012 12:30 PM BST
What has industry and banks got to do with anything related to horseracing?......rock on ruby is officially trained by Nicholls

There you go buddy you have answered your own question..........End of thred.

Oh by the way stop insulting people as it tends to make your nose bleed!
Report Facts April 16, 2012 2:56 PM BST
lookingforthewildman     16 Apr 12 11:41 
What has industry and banks got to do with anything related to horseracing?......rock on ruby is officially trained by Nicholls.....yes he is but the fact is.....he doesnt train it at all.....Officially Nicholls is champion trainer and winner of a champion hurdle.....factually speaking seeing that you like facts.....he has never won a champion hurdle.....harry fry has though.....



Show me where it states this ! You can't. Pointless discussion.
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