TIME TO BAN STEEPLECHASING

Lets rap the world in cotton wool so no one gets hurt

This is why I hate the Grand National so much...

You get total Lemons piping up with opinions on a sport they watch once a year. The GN is an awful representation of National Hunt racing, and it just gives people an outlet to have an opinion in something they no nothing about.

Messi that aint aimed at you, as I clearly know nothing about you, but I just know im going to have ****'s at work asking questions all days at work on Monday...

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as a true sportsman we must stop steeplechasing the bha and all world horse racing authorities need to get together

i watch this sport most days of the week and never bet on it so get your facts right

They're only horses.

messi-10,

If you knew anything about horse racing you would know that many connections of horses, especially owners of National Hunt horses don't gamble, they love the sport and their horses.

zarkandar went a nasty cropper, ban hurdles too...

I Love Nh racing, but i dont want it judged on this one 10 mins per year

if you ban steeplechasers the big strong thoroughbred type will be lost and you will be left with the ex flat race whippets hurdling ,
clueless ****

This national has made the sport look bad, its made the general public look at NH lovers in the same way they'd look at a pedophile.

Lets ban the motor car people are dying everyday add the aeroplane aswell.

I am afraid as Harvey Smith says where you get livestock you get deadstock

Ban Chinese Take Aways.I spent the day in the crapper..

So the overwatering and modifying of fences didnt work. Its national hunt racing sadly deaths happen. Where will the liberal and wan ky RSPCA be in 2 weeks when horses die at the Scottish national. Go and bother people at coursing events or gypsys who keep horses on 5ft of chain

What planet are you on messi?seriously.....ASS Hol e

ban steeple chasing?????? so all the people involved lose their livelyhood...the magnificent creatures bred for the sport no longer exist...come on no one endorses the deaths but these are the animal equivalent to treated like kings...not nervously trying to get a gob full of grass somewhere where a big cat aint gonna kill it for lunch.....they run because they want to

Like that Boat Race, The Grand National is a shameful stain on this country's moral character.

One for it's unashamed elitist self-indulgence.
The other for it's unashamed willingness to send magnificent creatures to the barbaric execution chamber that is the Grand National.

Well done Pom's.
I hope you are proud of yourselves.

chuck another prawn on the barbie and feck off shiela

Messi, as I said I know nothing about you... But a lot of people who will go another year without seeing another race will be saying similar things... Also, if you dont like it, why do you watch it "almost everyday"?

I think hes in a home

Vaffanculo all the whinging girls..............a football player died here today.............do you want to ban that as well?

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I blame Coolmore. Too many Northern Dancer line horses masquerading as steeplechasers.

Apr 14, 2012 -- 6:54PM, brub wrote:

Like that Boat Race, The Grand National is a shameful stain on this country's moral character.One for it's unashamed elitist self-indulgence.The other for it's unashamed willingness to send magnificent creatures to the barbaric execution chamber that is the Grand National.Well done Pom's.I hope you are proud of yourselves.

.....barbarism seems to have changed somewhat in the last few politically correct yesrs
i thought barbarism was more like the holocaust or the pol pot regime...not the unfortunate death of two animals when probably several million are slaughtered every day anyway...

i hope you are a tree hugging vegan brub...or hang your hypocritical head

how many roos were harmed filming skippy you convict

Going by the trends in my local bookies, in 20 years time there will only be racing from Portman Park 24/7 where a race from there holds the same significance to them as the Grand National, Derby or July Cup.

Hundred horses killed today over in France /Belgium

JUST TO EAT

messi You are a complete moron

zilzal1
14 Apr 12 18:30
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I Love Nh racing, but i dont want it judged on this one 10 mins per year

Exactly Zizall! Why should this joke of a race be the imagine of racing?

If the pro-NH mob think their impersonation of the burgomeister with his torched villagers is doing their cause any good then they're as stupid as most of their arguments.

The racing authorities are unable to act responsibly so NH is a goner. The only thing we're debating is the time of death.

get a grip .....how many millions are invested in the sport....and by who...the skinties or the wealthy...ban nh today and the flat is tomorrows menu for the antis....horses die in flat races also

Feck N.Eejit

Ive suspected for some time that you are well named.

I'm glad you have confirmed my suspicions.

Bit over the top messi, they do have to look at sorting out the National again and try to make it safer, but ban ALL chasing, no chance of that for me.
Its a tough sport for horse and jocks and very sad things can happen, but thats life.

Messi you are just like your namesake that alleged "best footballer in the World" that wants tackling banned !! FYO Lionel would not even feature in the best 1000 FOOTBALLERS of all time and yet you would be in the top ten of liberal ****s.

Messi, very messy,

Why are a lot of you defending this race? I post on here a lot and join in the banter but really this race will kill our sport. That was not at all good to watch today and the limit f runners has to be cut. How can you have less than 30 runners in The Lincoln 1 week because of safety yet send 40 out in The National?

Feck N. Eejit
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If the pro-NH mob think their impersonation of the burgomeister with his torched villagers is doing their cause any good then they're as stupid as most of their arguments.

The racing authorities are unable to act responsibly so NH is a goner. The only thing we're debating is the time of death.
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I think I have locked horns with you before and wasted valuable time.Suffice to say username apart you are the most pathetic poster on here.Take a good look in the mirror tonight if you can find one you half-wit....

I'M OUTTA HERE

messi...

While your boyfriend was playing with your chocolate starfish,you might of noticed,that most of the horses that fell/unseated went on to JUMP MOST OF THE FENCES ON THERE OWN !!!!!

Or was you enjoying yourself to much to notice 

I agree with messi-10 this sport is a disgrace and has no place in the modern world. It's some sort of sick throwback to the days of vulgar elitism and blood sports like foxhunting. It's not right to risk an animals life for sport, and if you don't know that, then you have a big problem.

the once a year punters are not mourning synchronised demise...they are watching britains got talent

high lander....is it fine to genetically mutate and incarserate animals to feed your fat face????

I'll have you know that I have an extremely thin face.

you eat lettuces and water cress....you saint amoungst mere mortals.....p**tt

Oh and btw I don't eat genetically mutated food and furthermore your point is moot. Breeding animals for food is one thing, we need food, without it we all starve to death, so therefore it's a necessity. However, forcing animals to hurt themselves and potentially die for our sporting pleasure is truly disgusting.

oh he was forced to die

hang your head ap

It's morally wrong and somewhere deep inside that black heart of yours, you know it!

you are a human...a hunting species....part of the human race....a pretty poor example that would surely have starved in generations gone by ...but you are one of us ....bad luck old son

Thought that the liberal high-lander would be on.These minorities like to post and make it seem that they are well supported.

You dont NEED meat, its a pleasure, people survive without it.

far better to eat synchronised that watch his glorious gift of courage and stamina

get a life you idiot

get a life u  sad  excuse for a person grow up and shut up

high_lander
14 Apr 12 20:13 Joined: 11 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 2,403 | Blogger: high_lander's blog
Oh and btw I don't eat genetically mutated food and furthermore your point is moot. Breeding animals for food is one thing, we need food, without it we all starve to death, so therefore it's a necessity. However, forcing animals to hurt themselves and potentially die for our sporting pleasure is truly disgusting.

You really are a disgrace to the Human Race.You would compare a nine year old horse that has had 28 races and been pampered all it's life to an animal with maybe a life of a year to feed your your liberal Scottish face, and you say it is cruel.I will tell you what is cruel, the English taxpayer subsidising you Scottish morons......

live televised slaughtering of high landers next sunday lunch ....this could well be worth a page or two on chit chat

nae need for that ya sheepshaggin english ****

I have loved and followed horse racing for fifty years. I never thought that one day I would find myself in doubt as to whether the National should exist. I now ask myself this question. Is it Steeplechasing, or just the National that should be put under the microscope? Contrary to all I ever really believed in, I now consider the race to be a tradition we cannot afford to keep. I attended Aintree today, more because of Oscar, Ruby, Zarkandar, Sprinter and Simonsig. That to me was the reason for being there. The National was nothing more than a cavalry charge where the best horse did not win. It attracted morons from other planets, who knew NOTHING about horse racing, there just to get pissed and talk filth. I dont think racing needs it. Horses die sometimes, a sad fact. If I were to ask for odds about a fatality in the race I reckon the odds offered by any bookie would be well odds on. I say that just to prove a point. IT IS THE NATIONAL THAT IS THE PROBLEM, NOT STEEPLECHASING.

hypocrisy has no place in this....i cried when best mate died

flushgordon1
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nae need for that ya sheepshaggin english ****
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If that was aimed at me you heroin addicted subsidy addict, then I am no fan of the English either.....

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EVILROYSLADE, on a slightly different note I got an email from Ascot, all it entailed was their new dress code policy... Barely a mention of horse racing, racetracks are to intent on attracting people who's only intentions are to get drunk and dress moderatley smart. It's a joke.

EVILROYSLADE
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With all due respect a horse(s) has died.It is not as if Princess Diana has risen and gone again...

anyway whatever nationality you are still a sheepshaggin ****

Fatalities occur in horse racing, but they are widespread. That cannot be said for the National. They are common in this race. As for the Princess Diana analogy? Wel if someone can explain that to me I will be amazed. What shoulod be asked is this. Name ANY other race, by name, eg King George, Champion Hurdle, Welsh National etc etc etc where horses are killed on such a regular basis. One stands out. The Grand National.

Ps Viking. I could not agree more with your previous post. Absolutely correct.

evilroyslade i do agree to this in part....and i am amazed really at some of the entries these days...synchronised...planet of sound....even the winner....here we have gold cup horses rhat the owners and trainers are willing to risk in the race...i for 1 would not risk my gold cup horse in such a race

homefortea, it's a well known fact that Scotlands oil subsidises the whole of the UK. If it wasn't for our oil that you leach off of, you would be living in squalor and eating mice.

DID YOU ALL BET TODAY ON THE NATIONAL ASK YOURSELF YOU ALL SUPPORTED A WORLD CLASS RACE AND NOBODY IS FORCING TRAINERS AND OWNERS TO ENTER THERE HORSES UNFORTUNATLY IT'S A RISK THEY TAKE FOR THEY MOST PRESTEGIOUS PRIZE IN RACING FOR THE WINNER.

SAD TODAY FOR 2 FANTASTIC HORSES BUT THE SHOW MUST GO ON FOR THIS WORLD CLASS FAMOUS RACE

high-lander...I am no fan of the English, in fact where I am from we have been shafted..However for you to claim that that Scotland subsidises England is laughable and I would suggest that take a bit more water with it !!

I'm sure those arriving at the main entrance via the station noticed the protesters today. Mainly girls in their late 20's and 30's. In appearance I would describe as ' earth women' or hippies; would not be hard to imagine them partaking in night orgies in the woods watched only by owls,bats, mice and hedgehogs.

They had the usual placard picturing a horse with a broken leg along with drawings of gravestones ect  Could not help thinking how ironic it is that while those racegoers walking past them would not want to see any animals killed, the protesters themselves would most likely be hoping for a couple of high profile fatalities - and ultimately they got what they wished for.

How effective these groups are depends on how much support they get from the mainstream press, and while I don't think the general public contain a higher number of anti-racing people than say in the 70's; I do fear a relentless campaign by one of the major daily papers could finish of NH racing as we know it.

Messi you are just like your namesake that alleged "best footballer in the World" that wants tackling banned !! FYO Lionel would not even feature in the best 1000 FOOTBALLERS of all time and yet you would be in the top ten of liberal ****s.

I hope you are not serious

hmmmmmmmmm where have i said i want tackling ban are u stupid

its imo if i want steeplechasing banned or maybe i went too far maybe its the national that needs banned or the field reduce or something

homefortea where the hell are you from then and why do you mump on about England all the time?

but you are just a gambler on a forum and you cant change my opinion so goodnight

and this isnt the first time ive made a thread saying it could be time to ban steeplchasing

goodnight people

messi-10 are you all done with your goodnights now?

goodnight johnboy
goodnight mary ellen

If you were an animal would you rather be a steeplechaser than a Dartmoor pony(culled), a deer (culled), a badger (slaughtered), a dog to long under RSPCA care (on death row), a foxhound (doggy heaven aged six), an eventer pumped up with pain killers or perhaps you are a romantic and and prefer horses to roam the savannah as a wild beast prey to cougars, Lions, dog packs, hunger, drought, maiming by herd leaders. Steeplechaser is not to bad a life really for a stock animal.
If Steeplechasing was banned tomorrow I wonder who would adminster the bullet or steel bolt to 1500 animals, perhaps the anti-racing lobby would be first in line!

sweeney-todd stop trying to cloud the issue, it's morally wrong to make animals risk death and injury for our pleasure.

Interesting facts

In the past 5 years (1860 days) including today, 860 horses have died on British racecourses. Clearly most of these have been in National Hunt races but a surprising number on the flat.
26 horses died at Aintree/40 died at Cheltenham and 37 died at Sedgfield.

It seems that the ones at Aintree get the most publicity for obvious reasons but I think the public would be shocked by the overall figures.

As the above poster points out this debate is driven by emotion and it is totally irrational. The same people who by choice would walk past a shop selling genuine free range eggs in order to go to a supermarket flogging battery eggs because they are 50 pence cheaper have the nerve to pontificate on such issues? It is total hypocrisy. There isn't a single horse alive which jumps unwillingly. I've seen jockeys cajoling countless horses at the start of races which have planted themselves and refused to move. Grow up and man up.

If you ban Steeplechasing you may as well ban flat racing over a mile. It's seems every NH horse has been bred by a Derby Winner or a top class mile-1m4 horse. So they'd be not much call for breeding especially for people who keeps mares to breed with a good staying flat horse

highlander..It is hard enough to get a bet on as it is...I am no fan of the English but know the Scots are unable to govern..I am not Irish so work it out....

That's a ridiculous point, animals are of a much lower intelligence than humans, they are under our control, so of course the vast majority of them will do as we train them to do. And in this case that means jump fences. You need to grow a brain and get yourself a better argument.

highlander man up for fooks sake.Contact Fatdodgy and live happily ever after.Oh and I am not Welsh !!

We Scots subsidise the lot of you and not only that we invented everything as well...TV, telephone, penicillin you name it. We have been carrying you lot for centuries and we're sick of it.

flyingbolt     14 Apr 12 19:40 
Feck N.Eejit
Ive suspected for some time that you are well named.

ROFPML. How does this guy do it. Surely he must employ scriptwriters.


homefortea     14 Apr 12 19:57 

I think I have locked horns with you before and wasted valuable time.Suffice to say username apart you are the most pathetic poster on here.Take a good look in the mirror tonight if you can find one you half-wit....

Are you one of the Westminster 8 hft? You sound like a very hard man to me. If us antis aren't careful these two might arrange a heavy leaflet drop.

The phrase "savaged by dead sheep" comes to mind.

highlander

It is you who needs to grow a brain. Have you ever seen wild horses racing each other just for the fun? Probably not I'd guess. A more pertinent question was when did you last leave your grotty one bedroom bedsit or change your underwear?

Re forthcoming Scottish independence. English boat people will be turned back at Ardrossan. Hope this helps.

Wild horses race each other oh wow that's amazing!

Stop posting now you rambling fool, you are embarrassing yourself.

The GN is an awful representation of National Hunt racing

Spot on

highlander

I'm not the idiot who said if we don't eat animals we will starve. Which is news to me seeing as I am doing fine despite being a vegetarian for many years.

homefortea what is your nationality? You claim not to be British or Irish...

Oh now you're a vegetarian, how convenient

Actually it is irrelevant to the point. You said without eating animals we would starve. It is hard to think of a more idiotic comment. Until your next one of course.

Of course the human race would starve without animals you fool.

Nonsense. There is no need for people to eat animals unless they choose to. Not that I try to tell other people they shouldn't. That is their prerogative. Keep coming and I'll keep schooling you.