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Worst GC i have even witnessed in my 40 plus years of watching racing,even nortons coin was a better horse than Synchronised,a sad day for the sport
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Terrible Gold Cup back to the Cool Ground days of handicappers.
Absolutely dire race for such a prize ...As I stated elsewhere -Arkle would 've lapped these plodders.
Staying chasing dying on its feet .
Staying chasing dying on its feet .
Lets give credit to the horse for his rise through the ranks
Assumed from his posts this week that the OP was 18 or 19. Wow.
Great race, was on the winner, cutting through the pack to go on and win, what a race! best gold cup in history imo.
Assumed from his posts this week that the OP was 18 or 19. Wow.
my exact thought glossy
my exact thought glossy
me too, foul idiot contributing nothing and doing nothing but insulting forumites, trainers, jockeys and horses
thought it was a teenager too
wonder what the username was before the switch on 11 mar?
thought it was a teenager too
wonder what the username was before the switch on 11 mar?
thinly disguise as kauto star didnt win so it was crap horse racing is a sport rememember that its thier for all horses in the race to win it a brilliant race i thought
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...I think the better point is that if Kauto Star won it would definitely have been the worst GC ever.
...I think the better point is that if Kauto Star won it would definitely have been the worst GC ever.
is andy stewart insane not running big bucks over fences?
i mean,he's won 4 world hurdles now,but the gold cup is the one every owner trainer and jockey want to win,
He'd beat that lot a minute over fences,such a shame!!
i mean,he's won 4 world hurdles now,but the gold cup is the one every owner trainer and jockey want to win,
He'd beat that lot a minute over fences,such a shame!!
the horse sh1ts its self at the sight of a fence better 2 keep winning the world hurdle 4 the next 10 years i guess 
Don't rule it out lads, Nicholls has to have a GC horse in his own mind, could be the story of next season
i don't really see what they have to lose by giving it another go,he's obviously a lot more professional than he was back then,
Run him in the Betfair Chase and see how he gets on,if he cant jump go back to hurdles,simples.
Better to fail trying than not trying at all.
Run him in the Betfair Chase and see how he gets on,if he cant jump go back to hurdles,simples.
Better to fail trying than not trying at all.
got a ridiculously low chase mark like 159 or something
they could enter him for the Hennessey at Newbury and see how he gets on. If he bolts up then go for it, if he resents it go back to hurdles.
As an owner I would want to win the Gold Cup and it is very difficult to find one that can win the race - ask JP McManus who has owned literally thousands of horses over many years and just won it today
Mr Stewart has a potential GC winner jumping hurdles - look at the rubbish he has beaten TFR, Grands Crus, Punchestowns, and this year a mare...
no brainer
they could enter him for the Hennessey at Newbury and see how he gets on. If he bolts up then go for it, if he resents it go back to hurdles.
As an owner I would want to win the Gold Cup and it is very difficult to find one that can win the race - ask JP McManus who has owned literally thousands of horses over many years and just won it today
Mr Stewart has a potential GC winner jumping hurdles - look at the rubbish he has beaten TFR, Grands Crus, Punchestowns, and this year a mare...
no brainer
agreed judo,absolute madeness not to send him back chasing
Did you ever see Big Buck's jump a fence? He hated it and was as unnatural as you'll ever see. Sending him over fences would be like signing his death warrant.
Too valuable a horse to be throwing back over fences. Like johnny says, he wasn't a natural and clearly didn't fancy them.
Campaign him the same way as this year IMO, come back and win a 5th World Hurdle against the latest new pretender to his throne IMO.
Campaign him the same way as this year IMO, come back and win a 5th World Hurdle against the latest new pretender to his throne IMO.
He won 3 Chases,including a Grade 2 Chase,so there goes you're "he wasn't a natural"
and ruby was only even beaten once on him in 7 of his chase starts,
Sam thomas,nick scholfield and liam heard all beaten on him,clearly ruby is hugely important to this horse,particularly over the larger obstacles.Long Run cannot jump,do you suggest they should revert back to hurdles with him?
and ruby was only even beaten once on him in 7 of his chase starts,
Sam thomas,nick scholfield and liam heard all beaten on him,clearly ruby is hugely important to this horse,particularly over the larger obstacles.Long Run cannot jump,do you suggest they should revert back to hurdles with him?
He won them because of how well he travels. The fact that he won 2 or 3 chases does not make him a 'natural jumper'.
there have been plenty of staying plodders win a gold cup
think we have been spoilt in the denman kauto era with having a couple of class animals vying for the race each year, in behind have been the 155-165 brigade waiting for them to move on
be interested in the timeform ratings for the first 4, i don't think long run has been withing 10lb of last yr myself
think we have been spoilt in the denman kauto era with having a couple of class animals vying for the race each year, in behind have been the 155-165 brigade waiting for them to move on
be interested in the timeform ratings for the first 4, i don't think long run has been withing 10lb of last yr myself
he's about 20lb better than Synchronised
and don't forget he won a Grade 2 novice chase round Aintree beating Albertas Run when he was a 5 year old so you have to be kidding if you think he couldn't jump well enough. Fack me Kauto Star has fallen more than once and Denman too.
If they started training him now and built up his confidence by the time the Hennessey came round he could have schooled plenty
phuck me there is only one Gold Cup
and don't forget he won a Grade 2 novice chase round Aintree beating Albertas Run when he was a 5 year old so you have to be kidding if you think he couldn't jump well enough. Fack me Kauto Star has fallen more than once and Denman too.
If they started training him now and built up his confidence by the time the Hennessey came round he could have schooled plenty
phuck me there is only one Gold Cup
Certainly worth thinking about during the summer. Al Ferof will be the Nicholls Gold Cup horse next season. I think Long Run ran to this seasons form, when you look at where Burton Port finished. I'm going to get studying Uttoxeters National to find the 2014 Gold Cup winner
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