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ribotman
09 Mar 12 22:27
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To buy some cigars.
tobacco kiosk had shutters on and only section you could see was matches and lighters.

bit early to close at 3.00 o clock thinks i.oh no what followed was unbelievable.

me....Can i look at what cigars you have for sale please?
assistant....no,we can't.
me...why?
assistant.....its the government,we aren't allowed.
me...have you any tubed cigars?
assistant...slides a small section of door revealing cigars as if a victorian lady was revealing her underwear to me.
actually not showung all the cigars and not the ones i normally buy.
i gave up on the ones i wanted and bought some i could see they had.
paid for them and she said sorry and i replied its not your fault but it's ridiculous.

This is the first i've heard of this 'government policy'
i could understand it if they were displaying cocaine but i like most smokers now can only indulge our hobby at home or in the fresh air.
i would not force my smoke onto anyone else but the nanny state has finally gone absolute bonkers.
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Report stewarts rise March 9, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
Insaneburys imo!
Report Banks. March 9, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
Ban in large stores in UK comes into force on 6th April.

Small stores have to follow by 6th April 2015.

I think under the new laws they are not allowed to display any tobacco products and can only serve a product that is specifically requested hence your request to look at what cigars they had would not be permitted albeit they appear to have introduced it a few weeks early.

Could be entertaining if people forget what they smoke!
Report Ken O'sback March 9, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
Asdas already implimented.
Pain in the arse for staff have to close it before they serve the next customer.
What a nanny state we're becoming
Report ribotman March 9, 2012 10:42 PM GMT
Banks..is that a ban on selling or a ban on displaying please?

I actually went to another local supermarket later for my special cheltenham cigars [for celebration or commiseration].
no sliding shutters there.told lady my insanesbury's experience...she said oh yes its coming here soon,but she said that i should have been shown what was on offer on request,so who is right i don't know.
what i do know is the worlds going to hell in a shopping trolley.
Report barky March 9, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
Our local co-ops got the sliding doors up already... and they also seem to have trained the staff to give you dirty looks if you ask for anything from behind it.
Report Banks. March 9, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
Ban is on displaying them.

My understanding is that they can serve as normal when asked for a specific product but can't display or advertise any. I suppose your query falls between asking for a specific product and asking them to display their products for you.

I've no idea where the law stands on that. You would like to think they would take a pragmatic stance otherwise they could end up refusing service if you can't remember the exact name of what you want!

I imagine the aim is to stop young people being attracted to them therefore once someone has made the decision to purchase I can't really see the benefit of the cloak and dagger approach to service to an existing smoker.
Report ribotman March 9, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
Thanks banks.

If they have to put shutters up to protct young people,who could be discouraged by more rigourous application of age verification,thats their affair.
but if i go to a shop or supermarket iv'e never been in and guess what choices they have hidden from me

what about alchohol,is that going to be next?
Report barky March 9, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
There is no benefit anywhere... I'd have thought this would only add to the appeal for kids to want them. Its cooler to have them knowing there all hidden away. Don't really think any young non smoker has ever give the reason to start was because they saw them all lined up on a shelf.
Report Banks. March 9, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
in Iceland where they did this about 10 years ago youth smoking nearly halved over the next decade. I've no doubt that hiding the displays wasn't the only measure used to achieve this however it is uite a dramatic result.

The key to getting young people not to smoke is to make it unfashionable. By hiding displays, banning much of the advertising eg linked to sport, making smokers stand outside etc it is becoming less and less an aspirational thing for kids. It looks like too much hassle.
Report ribotman March 9, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
Iwould think alchohol has cut short as many lifes as tobacco,but you can walk into any shop or supermarket and quite happily saunter down ailes with your kids surrounded by swathes of alchohol products on show.

the government won;t follow suit cause alchohol makes them too much money.
Report Crisp77 March 10, 2012 9:02 AM GMT
Let them smoke,we can't afford all the pensions as it is.
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 10, 2012 9:10 AM GMT
It is a laughable policy, while on isle 5 they can sell food full of fat and salt without a problem.
Report roggrain March 10, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
Welcome to the nanny state.
If hiding the cigs from young eyes helps to reduce the number tempted to smoke then maybe next will be:
Alchohol
Chocolates and sweets
Foods containing high fat content
Condoms
White bread  etc.!
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