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Just a little token bet as i can't have decent bets in 7 horse races
nice drift though been on a good spell since last april!!
nice drift though been on a good spell since last april!!
nothing much to be gained by putting in loads of hours -same with everything else -too much work is counter productive.
30 - 35 hours here and 6 weeks holiday imo is ample time for ANY line of work
30 - 35 hours here and 6 weeks holiday imo is ample time for ANY line of work
An old gambling mate of mine used to notch up an unhealthy 80 hours a week gambling as well as smoking and drinking through the stress ,he is now up the local cemetery.
He lost his bank ,lost his edge and had to eventually take work as a gravedigger.
He lost his bank ,lost his edge and had to eventually take work as a gravedigger.
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Dont suppose you got the 'PM invite' from Snuffy then
Dont suppose you got the 'PM invite' from Snuffy then
No superam , he can stick his invites up his 
Did you ?
Did you ?
The red laird touches 1.4 , job done at 1.7
On to tonites 2.5 now
On to tonites 2.5 now
It's a gift from the Lord. You either have it or you don't.....
very good rog , the kipckac bus turned out to be a lucrative one
Tomorrows cards are rubbish,anything that looked backable was short and now even shorter than original prices!!
The only one that's overpriced and interms of just trading would be follow the flag,16/1 with hills can't possibly be that price,has 7 pound pull with mazij /1 for a length that ties in with admiral duque 8/1 and lockmaster 8/1 they are half his price.The times of the two races are almost identical and on a strict line at the weights follow the flag has beating of them,the race looks like guessing but this should only be 9-10/1 on the swell form,everythings been backed and this looks worth a few coppers to trade only.You may even see bigger prices on here,but unlikely.
The only one that's overpriced and interms of just trading would be follow the flag,16/1 with hills can't possibly be that price,has 7 pound pull with mazij /1 for a length that ties in with admiral duque 8/1 and lockmaster 8/1 they are half his price.The times of the two races are almost identical and on a strict line at the weights follow the flag has beating of them,the race looks like guessing but this should only be 9-10/1 on the swell form,everythings been backed and this looks worth a few coppers to trade only.You may even see bigger prices on here,but unlikely.
Took stake back.
Although there were bigger prices on here.
Although there were bigger prices on here.
Hathaway if producing some of its form this season would be fav to win this race but like most in the race has an inconsistent profile.A second to trip switch in december was a decent bit of form compared to tomorrows race and an even better run in january behind fire in babylon looks really good form in comparison.That run at kempton had warden bond 2 1/2ls behind in third,warden bond since a double scorer and a very good third to vanilla rum,the kempton race also had previous winner now another 3/4ls behind and also cantor another 2 3/4ls behind recent winner off 53.Lots of those kempton formlines fit in nicely with the horses at the head of the market.
The price totally underestmates her chance in the race as looking through the runners she will stay and that can't be said for all runners,rachael kneller rides and although not the best does ride a few winners with a handy 7 pound off.Shes had 32 rides for mark brisbourne and rode 5 winners and 6 places,a decent strike rate for a trainer who is currently in reasonable form.
There should be money for this i couldn't make a case for more than five runners on any of the form on offer so 14s is very big especially if she does produce anywhere near her form.Backed her to trade as looks one of very few options plus a small ew as well,will back again if bigger only one book up.I will be very surprised if she's bigger than 14s as this is the poorest race she's ever contested!!
1pt trade 14/1 365
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The price totally underestmates her chance in the race as looking through the runners she will stay and that can't be said for all runners,rachael kneller rides and although not the best does ride a few winners with a handy 7 pound off.Shes had 32 rides for mark brisbourne and rode 5 winners and 6 places,a decent strike rate for a trainer who is currently in reasonable form.
There should be money for this i couldn't make a case for more than five runners on any of the form on offer so 14s is very big especially if she does produce anywhere near her form.Backed her to trade as looks one of very few options plus a small ew as well,will back again if bigger only one book up.I will be very surprised if she's bigger than 14s as this is the poorest race she's ever contested!!
1pt trade 14/1 365
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The flag will pay to follow imo , goin to get at least 12s here on in
OI GIGGSY YOU LOON REPORT TO THE POOP DECK ASAP I MAY LET YEW BE IN MY TEAM.
well done on the winners/trades roger & giggs. good stuff dudes
^^^^ credit from a arselicking coward who welches on charitys what a recomendation that is.
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Join Date: May 2011 A massive price for elhamri,running off 60 same mark as last win over c/d in november,followed this up with a 3rd to the progressive take cover off 66 caramelita another of tomorrows runners 1 1/4ls behind and 5 pound worse off at the weights. Another third to andiamo via off 66 and a 4th to upper lambourn off 65 and also a 5th to podgies boy in totally different class race,has shown nothing on last two runs,wrong trip,conditions but has been in far better races than tomorrows runners.I expect this to be heavily backed with miss turner on board and should be a great trade even if the ew bet side of things doesn't work out.It would be fav on early season form i'm hoping this will be down to near half its current price minimum!!
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Join Date: May 2011 A massive price for elhamri,running off 60 same mark as last win over c/d in november,followed this up with a 3rd to the progressive take cover off 66 caramelita another of tomorrows runners 1 1/4ls behind and 5 pound worse off at the weights. Another third to andiamo via off 66 and a 4th to upper lambourn off 65 and also a 5th to podgies boy in totally different class race,has shown nothing on last two runs,wrong trip,conditions but has been in far better races than tomorrows runners.I expect this to be heavily backed with miss turner on board and should be a great trade even if the ew bet side of things doesn't work out.It would be fav on early season form i'm hoping this will be down to near half its current price minimum!!
no mean trick 2.40 been running in better company
this looks easier, hopefully can take this tomoro.
goodluck
this looks easier, hopefully can take this tomoro.
goodluck
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Join Date: May 2011 A massive price for elhamri,running off 60 same mark as last win over c/d in november,followed this up with a 3rd to the progressive take cover off 66 caramelita another of tomorrows runners 1 1/4ls behind and 5 pound worse off at the weights. Another third to andiamo via off 66 and a 4th to upper lambourn off 65 and also a 5th to podgies boy in totally different class race,has shown nothing on last two runs,wrong trip,conditions but has been in far better races than tomorrows runners.I expect this to be heavily backed with miss turner on board and should be a great trade even if the ew bet side of things doesn't work out.It would be fav on early season form i'm hoping this will be down to near half its current price minimum
Wonder who started the gamble!!!Relentless
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Join Date: May 2011 A massive price for elhamri,running off 60 same mark as last win over c/d in november,followed this up with a 3rd to the progressive take cover off 66 caramelita another of tomorrows runners 1 1/4ls behind and 5 pound worse off at the weights. Another third to andiamo via off 66 and a 4th to upper lambourn off 65 and also a 5th to podgies boy in totally different class race,has shown nothing on last two runs,wrong trip,conditions but has been in far better races than tomorrows runners.I expect this to be heavily backed with miss turner on board and should be a great trade even if the ew bet side of things doesn't work out.It would be fav on early season form i'm hoping this will be down to near half its current price minimum
Wonder who started the gamble!!!Relentless
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Gravy Trains and Bandwagons?
Gravy Trains and Bandwagons?
nope.if somebody puts in the effort and finds the result they deserve a well done...
IRISH ARE LUCKY is a total knut and will lick anybodys butt that is available.
Fair play giggsy well done.
Fair play giggsy well done.
Watch out for colour change early part of flat season,looks 100 horse to me!!!Caught the eye on debut and he's introduced a few nice ones at swell in the past,won't be far off that 100 mark.
Yep and i've been looking at the potentials for the flat,been virtually nothing this season and he's campaigned this quickly to get a reasonable mark could be anything!!
We were all on roger out at 3.95 and left a bit running on ew!!Had to be bet that way after the last ride it was given.
Had to be bet that way after the last ride it was given.
Can folk keep their language to a minimum on this thread, it can be very upsetting.
should trade lower like CTTE, Rezwaan & Kings Wharf.
No books up apart from 365 running scared on cnam week!!
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Join Date: May 2011 1pt trade thatcherite 12/1 365.
Join Date: May 2011 Thatcherite looks a huge price on various bits of form,only has a length to find with moral issue 9/4 from last july and a pound turnaround,has proven stamina winning at thirsk over a mile off 67 tomorrow off 68.
Ran at wolves 30th september over the 7fs beaten 1 1/4ls 5th in a reasonable time,the winner of that race maverik recently won off 76 and the horse directly behind thatcherite has since won off 70.
Thatcherites off a 3 pound lower mark tomorrow and although not totally convinced of stamina on this surface,the price looks huge in context of the runners in this race.I'd make this a 6/1 shot if running to best even with doubts over the mile on the surface,i will be amazed if this isn't backed at the current price.Only just looked at the race and surprised the prices havn't gone already,if its bigger tomorrow i will back it ew but i very much doubt.
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Join Date: May 2011 1pt trade thatcherite 12/1 365.
Join Date: May 2011 Thatcherite looks a huge price on various bits of form,only has a length to find with moral issue 9/4 from last july and a pound turnaround,has proven stamina winning at thirsk over a mile off 67 tomorrow off 68.
Ran at wolves 30th september over the 7fs beaten 1 1/4ls 5th in a reasonable time,the winner of that race maverik recently won off 76 and the horse directly behind thatcherite has since won off 70.
Thatcherites off a 3 pound lower mark tomorrow and although not totally convinced of stamina on this surface,the price looks huge in context of the runners in this race.I'd make this a 6/1 shot if running to best even with doubts over the mile on the surface,i will be amazed if this isn't backed at the current price.Only just looked at the race and surprised the prices havn't gone already,if its bigger tomorrow i will back it ew but i very much doubt.
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15 Mar 12 00:13
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Join Date: May 2011 1pt trade thatcherite 12/1 365.
Join Date: May 2011 Thatcherite looks a huge price on various bits of form,only has a length to find with moral issue 9/4 from last july and a pound turnaround,has proven stamina winning at thirsk over a mile off 67 tomorrow off 68.
Ran at wolves 30th september over the 7fs beaten 1 1/4ls 5th in a reasonable time,the winner of that race maverik recently won off 76 and the horse directly behind thatcherite has since won off 70.
Thatcherites off a 3 pound lower mark tomorrow and although not totally convinced of stamina on this surface,the price looks huge in context of the runners in this race.I'd make this a 6/1 shot if running to best even with doubts over the mile on the surface,i will be amazed if this isn't backed at the current price.Only just looked at the race and surprised the prices havn't gone already,if its bigger tomorrow i will back it ew but i very much doubt.
Relentlesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Join Date: May 2011 1pt trade thatcherite 12/1 365.
Join Date: May 2011 Thatcherite looks a huge price on various bits of form,only has a length to find with moral issue 9/4 from last july and a pound turnaround,has proven stamina winning at thirsk over a mile off 67 tomorrow off 68.
Ran at wolves 30th september over the 7fs beaten 1 1/4ls 5th in a reasonable time,the winner of that race maverik recently won off 76 and the horse directly behind thatcherite has since won off 70.
Thatcherites off a 3 pound lower mark tomorrow and although not totally convinced of stamina on this surface,the price looks huge in context of the runners in this race.I'd make this a 6/1 shot if running to best even with doubts over the mile on the surface,i will be amazed if this isn't backed at the current price.Only just looked at the race and surprised the prices havn't gone already,if its bigger tomorrow i will back it ew but i very much doubt.
Relentlesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on fire gigs wd, had a read of this earlier but didn't back it unfortunately but you opened my eyes to elhamri the other week so thanks for that
Very well done giggsy, didn't know you were a tory, great advice again!
Moral issues slow and the race was run at a reasonable pace,the best horse won probably better than that grade only had the 13 races potentially could be an improver on the aw,although that race was poor tbh.Every week there is one massively overpriced with the early books,this was this weeks!!
Unlucky with gritstone,did consider it myself but there were half a dozen in that race looked evenly matched!
Unlucky with gritstone,did consider it myself but there were half a dozen in that race looked evenly matched!
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16 Mar 12 00:16
enjoy your blood money
Another freak,loads of posts though must have another user name.
16 Mar 12 00:16
enjoy your blood money
Another freak,loads of posts though must have another user name.
Every time i see something massviely overpriced dealer will put them on here,although they will be second hand posts i won't put them on unless i think they are still overpriced.
Bit late there Woge..Price had been taken down at 10:58..
the price on these horses go within 5 to 15 minutes the night before sometimes, other times they last till the morning like 14/1 Gritstone. Wouldnt be possible to get the best price following this thread. Just an illustration as to what's involved. The work is 99.9% done the evening before. Mostly the morning is spent just waiting for them to price up, unless it's priced the day before. I had the Meydan card done since yesterday.
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Win Lay Long Run Cheltenham 15:20
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Win Lay Ardkilly Gunner Ffos Las 16:05
Win Lay Bring On The Judge Uttoxeter 17:00
Win Lay Wild West Ffos Las 17:40
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Place lay Mount Benbulben Cheltenham 14:40
Win Lay Long Run Cheltenham 15:20
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Win Lay Toner D'Oudairies Cheltenham 16:40
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inono... All on the hunkers waiting for Hidden Glory.
All on the hunkers waiting for Hidden Glory.
Roger De Bris - I don't seek glory I seek wealth
We all know that to make money by laying horses a very good strike rate is needed
10 right 2 wrong all the winnings are gone
I only post these things like above due to the fact that I seem to have acquired some enemies here
We all know that to make money by laying horses a very good strike rate is needed
10 right 2 wrong all the winnings are gone
I only post these things like above due to the fact that I seem to have acquired some enemies here
The truth
I spend half a minute selecting one and 17 hours looking for something to recoup my losses from the first bet
I spend half a minute selecting one and 17 hours looking for something to recoup my losses from the first bet
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a massive 12-1 with badcrooks,will be near half those odds if off.....
a massive 12-1 with badcrooks,will be near half those odds if off.....
Havn't seen anything massively over priced for days racings rubbish thought sudden wish and songbirdblues form looked ok having three winners behind them in jan.
winter derby tough race but top one a cert to trade...
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Catherines call dropped to an all time low mark been disappointing on ratings the last run but when beaten by cyflymder think that run wasn't to bad even though on ratings she shouldv'e won but come back run after 10 months,then run disappointingly over 6fs a trip that doesn't look to suit on recent form.Looking at the times of the runs from the 17th of february run 1m24.24 carrying 3 pounds less tomorrow and the handicap won by efistorm 1m.24.46 they compare favourably efistorm priced at 6/1 tomorrow oposed to catherines 16/1 looks overpriced.She has a bad draw which would make her slightly bigger price,but couldn't have her bigger than 9/1 10/1 in a race where not much has got recent form or anything on the clock.If those two runs have put her right,she's only off 63 tomorrow then the form of her first off 73,second off 75 and fifth to thunderball last season would look massive.
Not bad Giggsy, not bad!
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Catherines call dropped to an all time low mark been disappointing on ratings the last run but when beaten by cyflymder think that run wasn't to bad even though on ratings she shouldv'e won but come back run after 10 months,then run disappointingly over 6fs a trip that doesn't look to suit on recent form.Looking at the times of the runs from the 17th of february run 1m24.24 carrying 3 pounds less tomorrow and the handicap won by efistorm 1m.24.46 they compare favourably efistorm priced at 6/1 tomorrow oposed to catherines 16/1 looks overpriced.She has a bad draw which would make her slightly bigger price,but couldn't have her bigger than 9/1 10/1 in a race where not much has got recent form or anything on the clock.If those two runs have put her right,she's only off 63 tomorrow then the form of her first off 73,second off 75 and fifth to thunderball last season would look massive.
Not bad Giggsy, not bad!
stewarts that wasn't posted on here so whats the point posting it now? Where-ever it was posted you could easily thank him on there. dont know what posting it now achieves to be honest mate
I think stewart is putting two fingers up to gigs knockers here colin , and rightly so
tho they seem to have vanished once the barrows began filling
tho they seem to have vanished once the barrows began filling
the lock master,currently trading at 10.5,wouldnt be surprised if this trades at sub 2.0
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