Technical help please

Forget about iesnare

You IP Address is the one that will give everything away

You need to post your bets and your flat mates bets using a different IP for each bet and also remove the iesnare cookie every time before doing so

i did post a big write-up here about changing IP address, I doubt I will find it but will try

Good Luck

See post by 'brigust1' further down this page (unless someone brings it to the tp!). It includes details of how to get rid of it if you have it.

OK I have found my earlier posts about IP Addresses -

http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28473163/i-p-addresses?origpost_id=514612289&pg=1

I hope this helps

Good look keep winning

You will need to read all the topic (2 pages) and ignore some of the posts as they explain nothing

ty inono. Shall have a good read

Glad to be able to help Mr Holmes

If your not sure about your Router or anything else, post back here and I will take a look later

you're

Cant seem to work out the difference between router and modem

Getting headache already

Mr Holmes

Are you on Broadband? If you are on Broadband you will have a box that your incoming telephone line connects to, the box is known as a Router

Modems are usually built into a computer for dial up internet

good man , A router it is then

From another forum

What is iesnare?
Iesnare is a ‘reputation management’ system by a company called Iovation that stores a digital fingerprint of your current system in a database on their website. That fingerprint can then be accessed by all of their customers - ie online gaming websites - to track your online activity.

The main purpose of the system is to block criminal activity where fraudsters use multiple stolen identities / credit cards to sign up for multiple accounts on the same gaming sites.

Whilst this sounds like a good thing and any lawful user shouldn’t have anything to worry about, what is worrying is the fact that your computer’s identity is being monitored as you use it across many different gaming websites. So for example if you use the same machine to sign up to two or more different sites that use the iesnare system, each site will know that you’ve recently signed up somewhere else and potentially earmark you as a criminal or abuser.

In the UK (no idea of the equivalent in the US) the Data Protection Act makes the sharing of personal information between different organizations is unlawful and it’s arguable that iesnare is in contravention of that law. Iovation would probably argue that they’re not storing or sharing any personal information, it’s only your PC’s identity that they’re storing and sharing. Whether your PC’s identity is a part of your personal identity is up for question.

Also, you don't get the option to opt in or out of this, the iesnare cookie is installed secretly without your knowledge or explicit permission (as opposed to the permission you give when you agree to the T&C of most gaming sites which probably includes a clause that allows them to use companies like Iovation to track users).

Who is affected?
You might be affected if:

You use a PC with Macromedia Flash installed
You access online gaming sites regularly

The name ‘iesnare’ seems to have been used because ‘iesnare’ is the name of the website that installs the dodgy files. However because it has ‘ie’ in it, it doesn’t mean you’re only affected if you use Internet Explorer (IE) or if you only use a Windows based PC. You could use Mozilla Firefox on a Mac or on Linux and still be affected.


How to check if iesnare is installed on your machine

In Windows XP etc, hit 'Windows-key - F' to open the Search window. (press the windows key and the 'f' key at the same time). In Windows Vista, do same as for xp but note you will probably have to goto 'advanced search' and then tick the 'include non-indexed ...' checkbox.
Type in 'mpsnare' in the Search window.

If iesnare has been used on your machine you'll find one or more of the following folders:

#mpsnare.iesnare.com
#ci-mpsnare.iovation.com
mpsnare.iesnare.com
ci-mpsnare.iovation.com


How to disable iesnare
There are a number of ways of disabling iesnare, each method is listed below in order of simplicity (though the first method isn't much use if you use Flash regularly which most people do nowadays, still by definition it probably is the simplest method of disabling iesnare). You only need to use one method and you should be OK, but if you want to use more than one method then belt+braces isn't such a bad thing.

(Method 1) Uninstall Flash
One very simple way of blocking flash cookies (ie iesnare) is to just uninstall Flash player completely. In this way the iesnare cannot work because you don't have Flash installed - a little (ok, very little) bit analogous to a stopping a car from working by removing the car and just leaving the battery on the pavement(!). But of course if you need to use the car much then you ain't getting far riding on a battery - in the same way if you use Flash regularly - and who doesn't nowadays when the web is based largely around Flash for many many things - then you won't want to uninstall flash and you should pick a different method from below.

(Method 2) Disable iesnare by modifying your 'hosts' file
This method works by fooling your PC (and the iesnare software) into believing that the iesnare website is actually hosted on your local machine / PC. This way, any time a connection is attempted to one of the iesnare related sites, the connection is actually made with your own PC (which will fail because you are (probably) not hosting a web server on your machine - and even if you were you will not be running the scripts required to understand what's going on / it will be harmless).

This doesn't affect connections to any other sites, just to any of the iesnare related sites. It should also not affect your online activity noticably either (unless of course you visit an iesnare site, in which case the web page will not load!).

To achieve this (note originally written on WinXP though methodology is same on Win7):

Log into Windows as Administrator.
Open the 'Run' dialog box (press 'Windows+R' or click 'Start', 'Run').
Type in (or copy): 'notepad.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts' (note replace 'C:' with whatever drive your windows folder is on, most machines it should be just c: ). Hit 'enter' to open up the file in notepad.
At the end of the file, add the following line:
Code:

127.0.0.1 iesnare.com www.iesnare.com mpsnare.iesnare.com ci-mpsnare.iovation.com

Save the file (press 'ctrl-s' or go 'File > Save').

To test whether your changes worked:

Open the 'Run' dialog box (press 'Windows+R' or click 'Start', 'Run').
Type in 'cmd' and hit enter, this brings up the commandline.
Type in: 'ping iesnare.com' - this will try to send a ping packet to the address that your machine thinks is 'iesnare.com'.
Type 'exit' to close the command line window.


If your modifications were successful, you should see 'Pinging iesnare.com [127.0.0.1]' when you run the ping command above. Don't worry if it says 'ping failed' or similar, just the fact that iesnare.com resolves to 127.0.0.1 is enough to know your modifications were successful - this means the iesnare software will think your machine is the iesnare.com website

(Method 3) Disabling iesnare by changing the Flash settings
Another alternative to the methods above is to limit the amount of space that iesnare can use by changing the Flash settings. In this way by setting the available space to zero for iesnare you can effectively stop it from working (because it has nowhere to place it's cookies). See this post below for more details:

Quote Originally Posted by LFC81Eoin View Post
If you visit this site , Adobe - Flash Player : Settings Manager - Website Storage Settings panel

select mpsnare.iesnare from the list ( thats if its on your pc ) then drag the slider down to 0Kb ,or delete it from the list it wont be able to store a flash cookie on your pc .

A little bit of a disclaimer < I'm not a pc expert by any means , but after much googling i found this and did this myself , i believe this to work , others clever souls may be able to enlighten everyone else weather this is correct or not >
(Method 4) Disable iesnare by blocking read/write access to iesnare cookies on your HDD
This step is slightly more complicated and involves blocking the iesnare flash application from writing the cookies to your HDD in the first place - if it can't read/write the cookies, it cannot function properly.

There are 3 steps to this method, each listed below. The article was originally written for Windows XP, however the methodology is the same on Windows 7:

Step 1 - enable access to the file/folder security properties so you can change the permissions on the folders:
Note: you must have administrative privileges on the machine. The following steps are for Windows XP Service Pack 2/3.

Open Windows Explorer.
Go 'Tools > Folder Options'.
Select the 'View' tab.
In 'Advanced Settings', scroll down to the bottom and make sure 'Use simple file sharing' is NOT ticked.
Click 'OK'.

This allows you access to the security settings for each file/folder which isn't usually displayed by default (presumably to stop people effing up their system beyond recognition).

Step 2 - deny write access to the iesnare folders:

In Windows XP etc, hit 'Windows-key - F' to open the Search window. (press the windows key and the 'f' key at the same time).
Type in 'mpsnare' in the Search window.
When the search is completed, if iesnare has been used on your machine you'll usually find two or more folders with names like: #mpsnare.iesnare.com, #ci-mpsnare.iovation.com, mpsnare.iesnare.com and ci-mpsnare.iovation.com.
Select all of these folders, right click and select 'Properties'.
Select the 'Security' tab and then in the section where it says 'Permissions for ', click the 'deny' checkbox for each of the permission types (full control, modify, etc) - you can probably get away with just denying write perms though.

Be very careful not to change any other permissions on any other files/folders because this could make your machine unusable.

Step 3 - re-enable 'simple file sharing'

Follow the details in Step 1 above, but make sure the 'use simple file sharing' option IS ticked this time.


(Method 5) Disabling Flash Objects / iesnare in Firefox using 'Objection'
Objection is an addon for the Firefox web browser which allows you to block local shared objects (LSO) - iesnare being an example of a Flash based LSO.

It works in the same way as the built-in cookie blocker does in Firefox, allowing you to enter fully qualified domain names for which you don't want LSOs to be installed.

Step by step guide not really needed although will add it if someone requests it!

(Optional) Disable iesnare cookies in your web browser
NOTE - this is really an optional extra and shouldn't be needed if you've followed one of the methods above but doesn't hurt to do if you feel like it.

If all that above weren't enough, you should also block any regular HTTP cookies from the domain iesnare.com. These are the cookies that you can control from within your web browser (you can't control Flash cookies by default in your web browser):

Firefox:

Goto the Tools > Options menu.
Click on the Privacy tab.
Click on 'Exceptions'.
Enter 'iesnare.com' and click 'Block'


Internet Explorer

Goto the Tools > Internet Options menu item.
Click on the Privacy tab.
Click on 'Sites'.
Enter 'iesnare.com' and click 'Block'.


Chrome
See here for instructions on disabling cookies in Chrome:

Cookies - Google Chrome Help


Further Reading
For a whitepaper by Iovation on the ieSnare technology:

http://www.apwg.com/sponsors_technic...whitepaper.pdf

Which gaming sites use iesnare?
To date the following gaming sites have been flagged as POTENTIAL (ie some are unconfirmed) users of iesnare:

Bodog
Sportingbet
Bet365
Jaxx
Noxwin
Miapuesta
Bluesquare
Intertops
BetUK
Ladbrokes
Bwin
Unibet
Betcris
Virgin Casino
i4poker
doylesroomcasino
Mansion88
BetUS.com
Chilibet/poker/etc
Skybet
Diamond
Paddy Power
Foxy Casino
William Hill
Paf
Coral

This list is taken from experiences of users on the MSE forum and not all are confirmed. It’s still worth checking to see if you have iesnare on your machine even if you don’t have an account at any of the sites above. It's likely there are hundreds of sites using the Reputation Management system.

I shall ring sky then and ask for a dynamic ip address unless i can do it manually and easily

Inono. So if me and friend are using same router wont both still give of same ip address or are ip addresses inbuilt in computer

you will both have the Same ip address

1 connection is normally faster then the other as you are sharing.

so how do i hide my friends ip address as i have no problem showing mine

When you or your friend place a bet you need to always change your IP

Due to sharing with your friend you will find this difficult if you are both busy gambling throughout the day

Sky don't you a dynamic IP, you are on dynamic with Sky but there is a big problem that you are facing

Through my helping someone in the past I am aware that you may have to swith off your Router for many hours to get a new IP

You have big problems if sharing with a friend when you are both gambling and using Sky Broadband

If you were using a better ISP (Internet Service Provider) you would be able to Re-Boot your Router from their website interface and gain a new IP Address within 2 minutes maximum

2 minutes would probably work out OK for you and your friend to share and gamble, then again what do I know about your times of betting

If i tell him to get himself a dongle , then that would be ok i take it

Yes that sounds good

Thanks for your help I'm sure you answered this one already

Just to cap it, He cannot use his computer on my internet without showing my ip address ? No matter what he does with his computer ?

Correct Mr Holmes

Difficult for you as it's a friend

Mr Holmes, he could possibly pay for a proxy server for his gambling

A proxy as you probably know acts as an in between server and hides your IP Address

Proxy servers do tend to slow down the posting speed (upload speed)

It may be a good idea for your friend to contact a good Proxy Server Company and ask some questions regarding speed and cost

Ty inono. Will do .

Racing time now

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