The result should be reversed because RA has been denied a clear winning opportunity, regardless of whether he'd have got there or not. His momentum has been severely checked and an injustice done to him by the winner.
Yet as the rules are written to ensure bookmakers rarely have to pay out on a double-result, the result will stand. DISGRACE, imo.
The result should be reversed because RA has been denied a clear winning opportunity, regardless of whether he'd have got there or not. His momentum has been severely checked and an injustice done to him by the winner.Yet as the rules are written to
Shut up Chapman how can you say you don't think Resplendent Alpha would have won? Ok you can't be certain but it looked like he was likely to get on top to me. Shouldn't matter though, the rules should state that with sort of interference so close to home, where the winner is stopped to a virtual walk, the "winner" should be thrown out.
Shut up Chapman how can you say you don't think Resplendent Alpha would have won? Ok you can't be certain but it looked like he was likely to get on top to me. Shouldn't matter though, the rules should state that with sort of interference so close to
i think the winner should be chucked but it just doesn't happen over here
i've seen worse than that not been punished because of the winning margin which seems to have to be minute for anything to happen.
i think the winner should be chucked but it just doesn't happen over herei've seen worse than that not been punished because of the winning margin which seems to have to be minute for anything to happen.
Who thinks our rules are wrong in a case like this?
I think if you interfere like that then you should be thrown out end of - none of this 'best horse won'
Who thinks our rules are wrong in a case like this?I think if you interfere like that then you should be thrown out end of - none of this 'best horse won'
The idea that a panel of stewards should be deciding whether or not a horse would have won or not, had it not nearly been put through the rail by the winner, is fecking ludricous, imo.
The idea that a panel of stewards should be deciding whether or not a horse would have won or not, had it not nearly been put through the rail by the winner, is fecking ludricous, imo.
In a nutshell, the rules are WRONG because they heavily favour the offender.
This is what happens when the horse ruling authority gets into bed with the bookmakers.
In a nutshell, the rules are WRONG because they heavily favour the offender.This is what happens when the horse ruling authority gets into bed with the bookmakers.
Exactly, xmoneyx. The rules are encouraging jockeys to tighten others up against the rail, safe in the knowledge there's not a fecking hope in hell the result will be reversed.
Exactly, xmoneyx. The rules are encouraging jockeys to tighten others up against the rail, safe in the knowledge there's not a fecking hope in hell the result will be reversed.
The rules are fine as they are. The reason? It lessens the chances of inconsistencies in the enquiries. You pretty much know anything beaten over half a length isn't likely to get a race and that's fine with me when it means that principle is applied just about all the time.
The rules of racing cover the safety aspect given that jocks will nearly always get a ban for something like that.
The rules are fine as they are. The reason? It lessens the chances of inconsistencies in the enquiries. You pretty much know anything beaten over half a length isn't likely to get a race and that's fine with me when it means that principle is applied
In a nutshell, the rules are WRONG because they heavily favour the offender.
correct. under the current rules, to get the verdict in an an enquiry the beaten horse must finish within a short head or nose of the winner.
this means that all serious cases of intereference, where the beaten horse is absolutely crucified, the winning horse has virtually no chance of being disqualified because the beaten horse finishes too far back.
as with most of the crazy thinking BHA world, this is surely the wrong way round. It should be the enormity of the bump that determines disqualification, not the eventual winning distance.
In a nutshell, the rules are WRONG because they heavily favour the offender.correct. under the current rules, to get the verdict in an an enquiry the beaten horse must finish within a short head or nose of the winner. this means that all serious case
well it's funny cos in 2 days i've lost out both ways in the states and over here.
last night my winner in states knocked a horse on its inside on the home turn at turf paradise and scooted clear to win easily, i had it to place and it was chucked out completely
over here today i have the 2nd badly hampered in a similar way and i know i will come out on the wrong end again
the joys of this game
you are right marcce, one good thing is over here you can be pretty sure of the stewards outcome.
well it's funny cos in 2 days i've lost out both ways in the states and over here.last night my winner in states knocked a horse on its inside on the home turn at turf paradise and scooted clear to win easily, i had it to place and it was chucked out
marcce good post. With the rules of yesteryear plenty of horses that were easily the best on the day were thrown out and as you say on top of that you never knew what was going to happen.
marcce good post. With the rules of yesteryear plenty of horses that were easily the best on the day were thrown out and as you say on top of that you never knew what was going to happen.
Believe me you dont want to go back to the old rules.In my lifetime of betting I've had horses win by over 3 lenghts and thrown out just for crossing the 2nd with a faint brush,all the stewards ever needed was an excuse to change a result if it suited.
Believe me you dont want to go back to the old rules.In my lifetime of betting I've had horses win by over 3 lenghts and thrown out just for crossing the 2nd with a faint brush,all the stewards ever needed was an excuse to change a result if it suite