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gerard
30 Jan 12 13:07
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I only found out recently that you can request a course by course breakdown of your P+L. Mine turned up yesterday and I would thoroughly recommend anyone serious about their IR betting getting theirs done. A lot of the results were as  expected, but there were some real eye openers too. Fascinating stuff imo.

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By:
rcing
When: 30 Jan 12 13:09
when i asked about 1 year ago they said they can't give a spreadsheet for IR bets only . has this changed or do you only bet in running gerard ?
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 30 Jan 12 13:09
ShockedHappy
By:
Deltâ
When: 30 Jan 12 13:11
best course is = [           ]

worst course is = [           ]


tar
By:
john92
When: 30 Jan 12 13:20
You can do this yourself using the sort function on excel. I would recommend doing it aswell. Bellewstown was a scene of carnage for me. I don't bet there any more.
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 13:27
rcing, it was an overall P+L but the vast majority of my stuff is IR.
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 13:29
In reply to Delta it depends what you mean by best and worst - in terms of pure profit or profit in relation to turnover?
By:
rcing
When: 30 Jan 12 13:31
john92 , can the excel sheet that betfair send show bets before the race starts and in play bets ?
By:
rcing
When: 30 Jan 12 13:31
ok thanks for the reply gerard
By:
john92
When: 30 Jan 12 13:39
As Gerard says it can't be split, but all of my bets are IR bets anyway. To do this I think you would have to start your own spreadsheet or records from scratch.

I worked a profit per race figure rather than profit/turnover.
By:
rcing
When: 30 Jan 12 13:40
ok thanks john
By:
Deltâ
When: 30 Jan 12 13:41
pure profit
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 13:51
By pure profit, two courses that are amongst my least favourites to play! Newcastle (a result skewed by one big win) and Lingfield. The latter in spite of the rancid dog racing, ATR/BF video pictures and legions of track playing competitors. Just the sheer volume of racing there I guess. Courses with the best winnings to volume ratio were, unsurprisingly for a stay at home player, the high quality RUK tracks - Cheltenham, Newbury etc. The worst track % wise, despite it being RUK was Thirsk - answers on a postcard.....
By:
Deltâ
When: 30 Jan 12 13:54
interesting

cheers gerald
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 14:04
You never tire of that one do you? McCoy like persistence imo.
By:
Rollo Tomasi
When: 30 Jan 12 14:04
A good thread.

Find out which courses your winnings are below average, so you know where you are due a win and can up your steaks.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 14:07
gerard did you sent a request to info@betfair.com ?
By:
john92
When: 30 Jan 12 14:08
I found Redcar very hard going, probably due to the camera angle. All my best tracks were Irish - Kilbeggan, Clonmel, Down Royal. I had bet in around 500 Kempton all weather races and made £2. I had made a decent amount at Lingfield aswell but the  profit per race figure was very low.

Most tracks depend on your betting style though. If you can get on the frontrunner at Thirsk then it is hard to lose from that point.
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 14:09
Indeed Rollo - can't wait for the new flat season to unload a few full banks on some Thirsk claimers.
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 14:09
How long did u wait gerard?
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 14:09
Yes, Biscar.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 14:10
ty
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 14:10
Next day Mucho - it's just a case of them pressing a button or two. I did get mine by e-mail though...
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 14:10
john92 are you a front runner player?
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 14:11
I deduce that he does the hokey kokey imho Laugh
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 14:17
How far does it go back gerard?
By:
gerard
When: 30 Jan 12 14:18
As far as you want.
By:
john92
When: 30 Jan 12 14:20
Haha you know me too well. I do enjoy a sea of green at the 3f pole.
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 21:11
Musselburgh my best john & Exeter Strat Towc then Donny in that order the worst (might be a connection)
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 21:19
Towcester I play with boxing gloves on and my eyes shut hope this helps LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 21:22
Lol Biscar,hopefully one day i'll get to see you in action
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 21:24
It takes a special horse to win at Toaster mucho, the track is uphill all the way round
By:
Mucho
When: 30 Jan 12 21:27
Thinking of packing the game in Biscar,No money in the markets
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 30 Jan 12 21:31
Don't believe it mucho there was 29m in a market the other week
By:
Mordin.
When: 31 Jan 12 22:52
Thanks Gerard just fired off an email to them, been thinking of getting this info for ages. As you point out it will be crucially important. Cheers
By:
Lucky Trifecta
When: 31 Jan 12 23:21
If they refuse, ask again, they will send out on your second request.
They say stuff like you don't have a keyholder account.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 01 Feb 12 12:13
Are you able to request a course-by-course breakdown or do you ask for full results for certain period and break it down yourself in Excel? Cheers
By:
gerard
When: 01 Feb 12 13:14
May I refer you to the opening line of this thread Duncan.Wink
By:
roo
When: 01 Feb 12 13:42
gerard     30 Jan 12 13:07 
I only found out recently that you can request a course by course breakdown of your P+L. Mine turned up yesterday and I would thoroughly recommend anyone serious about their IR betting getting theirs done. A lot of the results were as  expected, but there were some real eye openers too. Fascinating stuff imo.

ive had one every year, it certainly gives your head a good shake up thats for certain.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 01 Feb 12 13:51
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