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Some of these beasts can't stay a mile and a half, never mind 2 miles 6 furlongs.
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Feck is aginst obstacle jumping too? Thought it was just the whip.
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I'm against jump racing because the courses will never put the safety of the horses first when the ground is unsuitable for jumping.
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Erm, don't let me put words in Feck's mouth, but he does have a point.
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Jump racing will go because the courses will inevitably hang themselves.
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Remember we only see the 'finish'. There are a lot of distressed horses at the back.
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Feck off
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Feck, after they have done away with the whip and are commencing the 10 month review into jump racing, I will look forward to reading your views on the subject...
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another good man lost to the tree hugging tendency
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GEORGE, it's been really bad today. No doubt the going played a part, but why run these beasts over distances thet their trainers know they wont handle?
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Flat racing on turf is a bit iffy imo. Can be too hard and gee-gees hurt their legs or too soft then they get tired.
So we could have a/w only. But then there`s the kickback Sorry folks. Last one out turn off the light. |
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Not me wolf. (punting wise) When the going gets bad it's an advantage to me form wise. I'll never be a tree hugger, but what's the point of putting a horse in a race that you know will not finish?
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Put any horse in a field with a jump fence He thats the horse may go up to it and have a look or rub is arse on it but jump it never and that say hes a natural jumper, they aint no such thing he will jump the fence if he feels the warmth of the whip so would you .Ban the Whip
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Feck, apologies for putting your name on the thread title. I can speak for myself. It was just that you pointed it out to me a good few months ago. Again, apologies.
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getting totally pissed off with the constant attacks on a sport I love and which is not cruel
wish these people would feck off and attack boxing or something instead or even better just get a life and do something constructive for a change |
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Really balanced view there Zipper. So on your say-so we abandon Cheltenham etc. etc. Get real will you. Without the whip there is no jumping. Without jumping there are no horses after 4-5 years old. Without jump racing we will have to have AW racing through the winter so even more young horses bred by worse and worse stallions just to make up the numbers then off they go. That's it run them on the flat then off to the knackers yard. Why don't you survey them to see if they would rather jump fences half a dozen times a year or be shot and sent abroad.
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wolf, you make a valid point. I'm actually pro-whip which I have gave reasons for before. But when you see horses tailed off after a mile over the jumps, what's the point?
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Zipper. Zip it. You would probably dont know the back end from the front of a horse. For your information horses love to jump. You put a jump in front of the majority of horses and they will pull your arms out wanting to jump it
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Feck - apologies if you have answered these questions elsewhere, but do you eat meat or wear leather?
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I just do not believe that trainers would deliberately put a horse into a race knowing it would not stay my original comment was made because you seem to be making common cause with someone who makes no secret that he wants to ban jump racing.If thats your viewpoint then fair enough but I very strongly disagree with his viewpoint and have made that abundantly clear on other whip threads |
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Why do all the people who want to ban the sport or want to run it into the ground spend so much time on racing media (including this) knocking it? Go and hand leaflets out on the high street. Go and speak to your MP. When you are knocking NH racing, ask yourself too what happens to all the yearlings who do not make the grade? If you are going to ban NH racing in the name of horse-welfare, you have to ban any sport or other activity involving horses.
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no one loves NH racing more than me in particular Cheltenham,but their is an argument for sure re trainers choices of races for their horses.
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So ban NH racing because some trainers are idiots?
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Well said carver.
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Ban everything where anything practicing it might possibly come to harm imo.
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Councillor - You put a jump in front of the majority of horses and they will pull your arms out wanting to jump it
Precisely - I have seen plently of horses who have 'had enough' refuse. I have seen plenty of horses loose in a field who have jumped. |
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The trainers do not ride the horses. The jockeys should pull them up when they get that tired. Most jockeys do for their own self preservation.
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I feel sorry for the working man.
wages are being kept down.unions have been totallly emasculated and the price of everything is going up now they want to ban all sport.smoking.drinking.swearing at football matches and just about everything else that makes life worth living after a weeks hard grafting at the coal face |
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Councillor re zip dont know one end from the other your arrogant idiot ..zip has had horses in training ( very fat bills ).. zip was a racecoure bookie for 20 years
And zip will bet any price you like the Jumps game will go .. are you on |
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I am not campaigning to have NH racing banned, NH racing are the ones doing that.
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Zipper, I fully expect it to go within my lifetime - makes no sense, utterly illogical, but that counts for nothing.
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What shoul NH Racing and the courses do in the name of self-preservation then Feck?
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You 0nly have to look World Wide .. how many other countries have National Hunt Racing answers on a stamp
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Which is more harmful to a horse? ...
A few 'bunny hops' over 8 flights of hurdles - or jumping well-sighted fences on level ground - OR - BADMINTON and BURGHLEY Horse Trials... Where the horses have to jump STONE WALLS - INTO Mini LAKES, and then CLAMBER up something akin to a ROCKFACE, in order to get out of that PIT ... be asked to negotiate, and jump CHICANE style Fence Layouts - that look designed to 'put a horse's back out'... along with other COMPLICATED and UNNATURAL OBSTACLES. - And then there is HICKSTEAD - where they SLITHER down a BANK - that would have a 'ROAD CLOSED' sign on it - if it were tarmacked. - And - The INDOOR HORSE OF THE YEAR SHOW - where they are asked to jump in such a TIGHT ARENA - in which you would be lucky to 'swing a cat around'. - [b]And - What about the EQUESTRIAN EVENTS at THE OLYMPICS? I ain't heard anything about the HORSE WELFARE gang - the RSPCA - and other associated 'bleedin' hearts' - calling for them to be banned - or planning mass demonstrations in the Mall.... because those events are just the same as BADMINTON and BURGHLEY. |
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Come on onlooker, you should know better, logic is not welcome on this thread...
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Um, how many countries have a history of NH racing like the UK? Don't worry, it won't be going anytime soon so I hope you are a youngster Carver.
About trainers running horses that fall away. Firstly when they enter them don't always know what is going to run. Secondly they don't always know what the going is likely to be. Thirdly, they have to start somewhere because horses can only get so fit at home. Add to this there are currently lots of poor horses running in poor races but the levy needs them so that is what happens. Also, anyone who watches racing will know a lot of the time trainers and jockeys don't know what is going to happen that is why they pick the wrong ones. Anyone who thinks the whip or NH racing will be done away with should do the Maths. Horse racing is an industry. Unlike the motor industry you cannot import horse racing. Unless you buy the TV rights from other countres where racing is deemed to be acceptable and all of those employed in the racing industry would have to find work elsewhere. How crazy is that? |
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Hi Brigust1 - I hope you are right, everything you say is logical and i'll defend NH racing all day every day. I just truly think the lunatics have taken over the asylum, so anything could happen.
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Of course racing should'nt be banned cos of trainers being idiots,just saying that they do run horses in races that do not do the horses any good at all.The Grand National is a perfect example of that with owners wanting a runner in the race and to h-ll with the consequences.
Its that race thats started all this debacle we are having right now i believe. |
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Of course racing should'nt be banned cos of trainers being idiots,just saying that they do run horses in races that do not do the horses any good at all.The Grand National is a perfect example of that with owners wanting a runner in the race and to h-ll with the consequences.
Its that race thats started all this debacle we are having right now i believe. |
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oops!!
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