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Appears to hit horse eight times? Winner responded but jock may be in trouble, wrote jockeys agent Terry Norman

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By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 26 Oct 11 14:58
7 day ban for Robert Winston whipped the horse 9 times
By:
elise
When: 26 Oct 11 15:00
they just counted 8 for byrne as well
By:
Koo....
When: 26 Oct 11 15:01
thank god he stopped at 8
By:
duncan idaho
When: 26 Oct 11 15:02
how on Earth was Winston giving that horse time to respond between smacks? should have been a ban under old rules too. plank.
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 26 Oct 11 15:04
I counted 9 for Byrne.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 26 Oct 11 15:07
obviously told to win whatever....Koo a quick question, as you have been known to have a small punt on yours would you expect the jockey to win whatever the rules when yer cash is down and would you compensate the jockey for any loses if the hrose does win but incurs the wrath of the stewards

i realise you may not want to answer this
By:
Hushwing.
When: 26 Oct 11 15:08
they arent even trying now , these jocks are riding like they can keep totting up bans before they all strike n have their own way.

i didnt agree with the rule change before but way the jockeys have gone about it i kinda hope they dont give in to them too easy.
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 26 Oct 11 15:09
Shane Byrne hit the horse 9 times. It seems you are not allowed to whip your horse after the postDevil
By:
worcesterwilly
When: 26 Oct 11 15:09
BUT THIS SUMS UP THE STUPIDITY OF THE RULES....

I had a few quid each way on Cayman Fox and a bit more on Daldini to win.....both came second.

I an NOT griping as better horses won BUT - the better horse won yet the jockey gets banned for cheating - so why does the Punter get shafted by a cheat?????????

Its the rule at fault NOT the jockeys....
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 26 Oct 11 15:11
because they dont want to discourage the owners, who will be the majoor losers if they start DQing horses, not an owners falut necessarily is it
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 26 Oct 11 15:12
The Stewards held an enquiry into the use of the whip by Robert Winston, the rider of the winner, HERE NOW AND WHY (IRE), in the final two furlongs. Having heard his evidence and viewed recordings of the race, they found him in breach of Schedule (B)6 Part 2 in that he had used his whip with excessive frequency. As the offence warranted a suspension at the upper level, the Stewards suspended Winston for 7 days as follows: Wednesday 9 – Saturday 12 and Monday 14 – Wednesday 16 inclusive. Under Rule (F)118.5 the rider shall not be entitled to a percentage of any prize money.
By:
Koo....
When: 26 Oct 11 15:13
i wouldnt compensate as im too greedy to dish out any of my money.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 26 Oct 11 15:16
i hear dat hence all da claimers huh, but if it was baws to the wall time and he wnet that extra mile surely mlost owners would slip an extra summit in to make up for the fine or ban
By:
silvergreaser
When: 26 Oct 11 15:17
Agree with Hushwing a lot of these jockeys are deliberately getting themselves banned to further ridicule the BHA and lay some more groundwork for the threatened strike.

This could get really dirty with both sides becoming entrenched.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 26 Oct 11 15:18
part of the problem is that people think (rather contradictorally) that smacks  of this foam persuader actually make lengths difference, when in truth half of these smacks in the closing stages probably make NO difference
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 26 Oct 11 15:19
ok an easier won for ya, wot would you do if the horses that had received too many shots were dqed and the bookies had to change the fptp concession
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 26 Oct 11 15:39
Why should you dish out money Koo as an owner. You didn't break the rules.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 26 Oct 11 15:41
wot about the 2nd placed owner who's horse did everything right though
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 27 Oct 11 04:00
Not sure if this link will work as they sometimes come out funny but if it does, scroll down to the headline saying Fallon confirmed for Caspar Netscher ride as opposed to Robert Winston and look at the photo accompanying the story. Laugh

http://sports.silobreaker.com/fallon-blast-as-whip-ruling-nears-climax-5_2264928843661836479
By:
bruce4syth
When: 27 Oct 11 04:15
sorry can't see the problem; there is a picture of robert winston but he doesn't lok too unhappy, just a mite reflective I'd say.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 27 Oct 11 05:45
http://www.robertwinston.org.uk/

this is the robert winston of the photo
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 27 Oct 11 09:33
He's also 71 years old and I doubt he can do 8st 10lbs any more. Happy
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 27 Oct 11 09:48
The real Rab only looks in his sixties. Guilt imo.
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