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Well slightly outside anyway 
We all know Hurricane Fly, Long Run, Quevega and Big Bucks will more than likely be the ones to beat come March so what of a few bigger priced ones, none under 10/1!
1. Ghizao - twice demolished Captain Chris last season, over 2m at Chelt and then at Newbury when giving him 10lbs and a 4 1/2l beating. Jumping let him down at Cheltenham when just 5th behind that rival in the Arkle. Once more his jumping let him down at Aintree when just one massive mistake at the second last cost him the race when cruising in behind Finians Rainbow. The 2m-2m4f division looks wide open this year and if this one can poilish up his jumping, could land a nice pot or 2 along the line.
20/1 QMCC
2. Fingal Bay - a wide margin bumper winner on debut when easy to back at Exter, no horse has come out and won since but this fella was in a different parish to them winning by 22l but it could have been 50! Made his hurdles debut on sat in the G2 Persian War at Chepstow over 2m4f and could nt have done it more impressively, jumped brilliantly, travelled well and quickened when asked. Looks one to keep on the right side of
14/1 Neptune
3. Wandering Aengus - being kept to bumpers this season. Was backed from 25/1 into 16/1 when making a winning debut last season beating Cheltenian who went onto win at Cheltenham. Needs soft ground
"He's doing very well. He had the summer off and he's back cantering at the moment," said Prendergast.
"He'll have one run in a winners' bumper and then he'll go to Cheltenham.
"He will only go to Cheltenham if there is cut in the ground but are hoping he will go to the Festival.
Unquoted - Cheltenham bumper
4. Time For Rupert - a banker for a lot of people in the RSA last season but never travelled at all or jumped with any fluency. Was found he had burst a blood vessel afterward so it was no mean feat he was only beaten 6l as he was flat out almost all the way! Loves Cheltenham and the RSA run was his only bli there with 3 wins and 2 2nd in 5 runs before that including when 2nd to Big Bucks in the stayers hurdle.
form of 1st 2 Chase runs worked out well with Hells Bay 8l 2nd - winning the G2 dippers Novice Chase beating Medermit
Divers way behind in 5th won the Centenary Novices Chase at the festival
Nto went on to beat Chicago Grey by 8l and that rival went on to hose up in the 4m Novice Chase at Chelt.
Quinz 17l behind in 4th won the Racing Post Chase nto
Take out Long Run and the rest are much of a muchness and if TFR can stay right, looks capable of going close in the GC come March
14/1- Gold Cup
5. Mossley - Disappointed at Aintree last time but numerous horses go onto disappoint at Aintree after runnig at Cheltenham so im willing to forgive that run. Before that he ran a stormer when chasing home his stable mate Bobs Worth in the albert Bartlett and they were well clear of the 3rd. Looked an out and out stayer on that occasion and the switch to fences could suit
25/1 RSA
6. Realt Dubh - 3 time Grade 1 winning Chaser last season beating current 7/1 Ryanair favourite Noble Prince on both occasions. Finished 3rd in the Arkle at Chelt over 8l behind Captain Chris but ran that rival much closer when they met in a G1 at Punchestown going down by just a length and a quarter. Is a PTP winner over 3m and a G1 winning chaer over 2m4f and i would like to see him stay around that trip and take a rattle at the Ryanair Chase.
20/1 Ryanair Chase
7. Montbazon - Was highly touted in debut bumper even though he was taking on hot favourite Cheltenian and lost nothing in defeat when going down by just 1l. Made no mistake next time out when winning easily at Doncaster.
Then went off a well supported fav for the G2 Aintree bumper when once more only finding one too good in the shape of Steps For Freedom - who has won both hurdle starts including a G3 this season.
16/1 - Supreme Novices hurdle
8. Minsk - has improved no end on the flat in his last 3 runs. Was purchased before his last run with the sole intention of goin hurdling but won the Irish Cesarawitch by over 5l on the bridle on his first start for his new owner and his final flat start. Rated 108 from the flat and now gone to Dessie Hughes, to me he looks to have an ideal profile to make into a top Juvenile hurdler.
12/1 - Triumph hurdle
9. Thousand Stars - a wonderfully consistet horse, often the bridesmaid but hopefully a step up to 3m can see that change.
4th in the Champion hurdle at Cheltanham
Just beaten a diminishing nck by Oscar Whisky in the G1 Aintree hurdle over 2m4f when staying on powerfully at the finish
Then went onto be 2nd to Hurricane Fly in the G1 Rabobank Champion Hurdle at Punchestown
Then stepped up to 2m6f in France was just touched off once more in a G2 hurdle on very soft ground
Finally got his head in front when stepped u the 3m 1 1/2f in a 150k G1 at Auteuil when winning very well.
Step upto 3m seemed to suit no end and can see this fella rattling up a lot of graded wins in Ire over the winter before getting the difficult task of taking on Big Bucks in March
10/1 World Hurdle
10. Rubi Light - Could be very tough to beat this season over the winter on very soft ground.
2nd to Golden Silver over 2m1f n the G2 Normans Grove Chase at fairyhouse
He was then stepped up in trip when demolishing his rivals in the G2 Red Mills Chase at Gowran
Then on much faster ground finished a very good 3rd in the Ryanair Chase, going down by just 3l when his jumping was nt as good as it had been in previous races.
Very unlucky on his first start this season when having Arkle+Champion Chase winner Sizing Europe very well beat when coming to grief at the last.
Could win a few nice pots throughout the winter and maybe(just maybe) develop into a live GC outsider
40/1 - Gold Cup
We all know Hurricane Fly, Long Run, Quevega and Big Bucks will more than likely be the ones to beat come March so what of a few bigger priced ones, none under 10/1!
1. Ghizao - twice demolished Captain Chris last season, over 2m at Chelt and then at Newbury when giving him 10lbs and a 4 1/2l beating. Jumping let him down at Cheltenham when just 5th behind that rival in the Arkle. Once more his jumping let him down at Aintree when just one massive mistake at the second last cost him the race when cruising in behind Finians Rainbow. The 2m-2m4f division looks wide open this year and if this one can poilish up his jumping, could land a nice pot or 2 along the line.
20/1 QMCC
2. Fingal Bay - a wide margin bumper winner on debut when easy to back at Exter, no horse has come out and won since but this fella was in a different parish to them winning by 22l but it could have been 50! Made his hurdles debut on sat in the G2 Persian War at Chepstow over 2m4f and could nt have done it more impressively, jumped brilliantly, travelled well and quickened when asked. Looks one to keep on the right side of
14/1 Neptune
3. Wandering Aengus - being kept to bumpers this season. Was backed from 25/1 into 16/1 when making a winning debut last season beating Cheltenian who went onto win at Cheltenham. Needs soft ground
"He's doing very well. He had the summer off and he's back cantering at the moment," said Prendergast.
"He'll have one run in a winners' bumper and then he'll go to Cheltenham.
"He will only go to Cheltenham if there is cut in the ground but are hoping he will go to the Festival.
Unquoted - Cheltenham bumper
4. Time For Rupert - a banker for a lot of people in the RSA last season but never travelled at all or jumped with any fluency. Was found he had burst a blood vessel afterward so it was no mean feat he was only beaten 6l as he was flat out almost all the way! Loves Cheltenham and the RSA run was his only bli there with 3 wins and 2 2nd in 5 runs before that including when 2nd to Big Bucks in the stayers hurdle.
form of 1st 2 Chase runs worked out well with Hells Bay 8l 2nd - winning the G2 dippers Novice Chase beating Medermit
Divers way behind in 5th won the Centenary Novices Chase at the festival
Nto went on to beat Chicago Grey by 8l and that rival went on to hose up in the 4m Novice Chase at Chelt.
Quinz 17l behind in 4th won the Racing Post Chase nto
Take out Long Run and the rest are much of a muchness and if TFR can stay right, looks capable of going close in the GC come March
14/1- Gold Cup
5. Mossley - Disappointed at Aintree last time but numerous horses go onto disappoint at Aintree after runnig at Cheltenham so im willing to forgive that run. Before that he ran a stormer when chasing home his stable mate Bobs Worth in the albert Bartlett and they were well clear of the 3rd. Looked an out and out stayer on that occasion and the switch to fences could suit
25/1 RSA
6. Realt Dubh - 3 time Grade 1 winning Chaser last season beating current 7/1 Ryanair favourite Noble Prince on both occasions. Finished 3rd in the Arkle at Chelt over 8l behind Captain Chris but ran that rival much closer when they met in a G1 at Punchestown going down by just a length and a quarter. Is a PTP winner over 3m and a G1 winning chaer over 2m4f and i would like to see him stay around that trip and take a rattle at the Ryanair Chase.
20/1 Ryanair Chase
7. Montbazon - Was highly touted in debut bumper even though he was taking on hot favourite Cheltenian and lost nothing in defeat when going down by just 1l. Made no mistake next time out when winning easily at Doncaster.
Then went off a well supported fav for the G2 Aintree bumper when once more only finding one too good in the shape of Steps For Freedom - who has won both hurdle starts including a G3 this season.
16/1 - Supreme Novices hurdle
8. Minsk - has improved no end on the flat in his last 3 runs. Was purchased before his last run with the sole intention of goin hurdling but won the Irish Cesarawitch by over 5l on the bridle on his first start for his new owner and his final flat start. Rated 108 from the flat and now gone to Dessie Hughes, to me he looks to have an ideal profile to make into a top Juvenile hurdler.
12/1 - Triumph hurdle
9. Thousand Stars - a wonderfully consistet horse, often the bridesmaid but hopefully a step up to 3m can see that change.
4th in the Champion hurdle at Cheltanham
Just beaten a diminishing nck by Oscar Whisky in the G1 Aintree hurdle over 2m4f when staying on powerfully at the finish
Then went onto be 2nd to Hurricane Fly in the G1 Rabobank Champion Hurdle at Punchestown
Then stepped up to 2m6f in France was just touched off once more in a G2 hurdle on very soft ground
Finally got his head in front when stepped u the 3m 1 1/2f in a 150k G1 at Auteuil when winning very well.
Step upto 3m seemed to suit no end and can see this fella rattling up a lot of graded wins in Ire over the winter before getting the difficult task of taking on Big Bucks in March
10/1 World Hurdle
10. Rubi Light - Could be very tough to beat this season over the winter on very soft ground.
2nd to Golden Silver over 2m1f n the G2 Normans Grove Chase at fairyhouse
He was then stepped up in trip when demolishing his rivals in the G2 Red Mills Chase at Gowran
Then on much faster ground finished a very good 3rd in the Ryanair Chase, going down by just 3l when his jumping was nt as good as it had been in previous races.
Very unlucky on his first start this season when having Arkle+Champion Chase winner Sizing Europe very well beat when coming to grief at the last.
Could win a few nice pots throughout the winter and maybe(just maybe) develop into a live GC outsider
40/1 - Gold Cup
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great post BJG
good luck with them for the season |
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A popular threat
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thats more like it!
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Thats what the "forum" should be abt
+ the craic  |
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Quwetwo was one of interest for the Arkle but out to a price of around 100 on here, fancied him last year before getting injured and think he is gone to Nicholls
Arvika Legionairre also on the drift here - the forgotten horse for the Arkle, was very well supported Ap last year b4 getting injured But il have to wait for a few trainer quotes or entries to get involved as both may not be back! |
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I think Montbazon will run up a sequence 111111 imo.
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Hope so, the 2m English Novies that i have looked at all look nothing special
Of course a few will come from right field but he looks the best chance of being a natural 2 miler to me They look a lot stronger in the 2m4f+ divisions |
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Very nice analysis BJG
The very best of luck |
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Tidy write up BJG
Have them duly noted, gl Ghizao could be an absolute monster in my eyes when everything clicks |
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Well written and thought out BJG i'll look out for them all this season and if you get 3/10 right that will be a result such are the vagaries of horse racing jumps or flat GL with them mate.
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WD BJG. As far as I can remember Fingal Bay is not on list. Difficult to know re Arvika Leg. I had him as a banker last year but that may have been his year and one always worries when they have been out for a while. For example it has been reported that Weapons Amnesty is out for another year.
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Yup, Weapons Amnesty misses this season too - a shame as he looked very good when winning the RSA
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No 1 have any at possible fancy prices that they are lookin forward to this season
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