If black cavier comes here next summer

I agree but it could well go out of his hands and the owner decides,  if there both still u beaten at the time then it has to be a possibility with both in uk

I'd think the bigger issue is whose gonna put the money,

would love to see it but aint gonna happen!!

racingpost today


He ruled out any possible trip to Hong Kong, Dubai or Singapore in colourful terms. "Why should we supplement every other bastard's racing around the world?" he said. "Let's supplement our own and enjoy her here for as long as we can?"

However, Moody also told the Racing Post that Europe remains prominent in his thinking after Black Caviar has finished her Australian autumn campaign, outlining a schedule for 2012 taking in the Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot and the July Cup before a tilt at the Prix de la Foret.
"I'm as keen as anyone to see her race abroad but I want Australia to see her and enjoy what she does," he explained.

"I tend to talk it down a little bit but the owners are very keen to go to Ascot so if she stays through her remaining races here unbeaten, then we would look at a prolonged campaign.

"When she has finished here, I can see us coming over for the Golden Jubilee, July Cup and the seven-furlong race on Arc day. There's no need to rush back for a stud career or anything like that."
Black Caviar's reputation meant she was next to unbackable on Saturday, when three rivals included Royal Ascot winner Scenic Blast.

The final dividend of 1.03 on most pools represented an SP of 1-33 - but in some states, where it is allowed, no dividend was returned. Punters bet a dollar simply to get their money back - and they never had a moment's worry as she arrogantly dismissed her opponents by six lengths, totally eased down by regular rider Luke Nolen.

"They aren't good enough to beat her here and nothing wants to run against her," said Moody. "The only thing that would stop me coming over is if she gets beaten because really that would mean something had happened - only misadventure could get her beaten.

"I'm not being rude but horses like Choisir, Takeover Target and Miss Andretti - she would tow them. That's not me saying that, it is their trainers!"

7 and half furlongs would be a fair trip, think the race should at Newmarket

Not sure if they could brand it as a group one

true dat, the long unmeasured pulse of time moves everything, there is nothing hidden that it cannot bring to light

hmmm, so im getting the picture you think Choisir, Takeover Target and Miss Andretti are just handicapers, funny they beat your group 1 sprinters and they aint in BC's class...dropkick

Come on... even the most ardent of Aussie race supporters has to concede that the Scenic Blast running now is not a patch on the horse that won @ Royal Ascot? He has not won a race since ffs.

I'm taking nothing away from Black Caviar, she is obviously very special but I certainly would not expect her to win on the bridle if she comes over here next Summer for the Golden Jubilee/July Cup. We actually have a couple of decent sprinters now
Deacon Blues is a highly progressive sprinter who will be contesting our top 6f sprints next Season and with home advantage he may be able to give her a race, though tbh I doubt he will be good enough to beat her.

She would be an absolute certainty for the Kings Stand Stakes over 5f at Ascot though, we don't have anything at that distance that could remotely trouble her.

shame Dream Ahead is not being kept in training.

black caviar will race over 7f before she goes to england I think, could be wrong about that though.

But if she does then that should give a much clearer indication of how easily she will win the jubilee and what chance she has in the french 7f race.

Seems we have another batch of Skippies shouting about a horse that has everything in here favour beating "Yaks" in small fields on flat tracks in lovely weather. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Farnkel would rip the guts out of her imho as she simply bullies the other "Yaks" she races against

The ingorant Aussies on here who proclaimed SYT the second coming of Pegasus make me laugh.

Calm down skippies , she is decent , granted but UNTIL she does it over here we don't care , just another  hype monster with a loud mouthed Berr swilling yob at the helm.

Imagine Sir Henry resorting to shoite like that.

WHO CARES , fram some more races for here to mop up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_Qurl05YM

0.2 seconds outside the flemington track record and carrying 1.5kg over WFA. She's barely out of 1st gear in the race.

Just because we talked SYT up (far too much) doesn't really mean you should ignore blatantly obvious things that indicate BC is probably different.

fair enough zippie, i understand many on the other half of the world could care less about racing in the opposite half  but she isnt SYT, she unbeaten in 15 races for  a start!

we have strong lines of form now that suggest she wouldve thrashed anything star witness faced this summer, and all without barely coming off the bridle. the likes of star witness was GIVING DREAM AHEAD 6 lbs in the july cup and was beat 4L. the same horse is getting 10 lbs from BC and getting beat 7L eased down!! shes IS the real deal and personally, the best ive seen since dayjur!

again im not saying she'd beat frankel but she is his eqv over sprint distances in the southern hemisphere!

what to u think of her performances in relation to star witnesses this summer ima?

She keeps beating him fairly easy enough ilikewavingatbuses but then so did Dream Ahead and like I mentioned before, I don't really think he's a true sprinter. I think he for want of a better expression "got away" with winning a few top sprints but the fact that they retired him seems quite telling, instead of staying in training for next season's sprints and facing the likes of Deacon Blues or to carry on taking on Frankel and Excelebration.

Prohbit and Society Rock both also beat Star Witness but have only won one more race (a Gr3) between them in 6 further starts since then so they don't seem to be top notch sprinters themselves.

Fair enough megsy, those trainers of Choisir, Takeover Target and Miss Andretti say Black Caviar would beat their horses but they've all been well beaten in races over here too. Nobody is denying Black Caviar looks a very good horse but consistently winning in Australia and doing so the world over are two different things. That's not to say she can't do it but until she does it remains to be seen......the very same applies to Frankel too.

Show me one negative thing I've said about her?

By the way, does Fleeting Spirit beating Takeover Target 4½L count as "towing" or how about Soldier's Tale beating Miss Andretti by 10½L?

dont listen to these guys they are not true fans of the sport black caviar is a legend

Ignoring picking holes in that for the time being, what was the excuse in the Arc then?

For what it's worth though, I personally think Rewilding should have been thrown out and the race awarded to So You Think but you could also argue that a 12f horse shouldn't really be beating SYT at 10f regardless.