Can anyone see Master Minded not winning?

as u will see on my thread i am £705 all in on master minded today cert for me

Will not be off the bridle!

Played golf with the owner a week ago. Will come on for the run and was worried about giving lots of weight away. Obviously the race has  cut up now - there are better 1/2 shots that are not thinking about King Georges etc...

easy winner.

Point taken.

Effortless victory by 20 lengths or more today me thinks . Flat track , decent ground and different class in his fencing to Albertas Run.

cant see master minded getting beat today, beat albetas by 9 length last time, think will win but no by a mile, master minded aint the same horse as he was, lets put it this way he wont be winning at the festvial again!

Maybe so,not Today though!

a just think hes not same horse now, last two festivals beaten a country mile both races, cant live with sizing europe/ big zeb etc now, but still one to have on your side in every race, except for the festvial obviously

better on a flat track really. although best visual performance was at cheltenham i dont think it suits it

Good point.

wich ever 1 comes good the other 1 will give up.......i think that it will be won 2 out...........& its not straightforward.

giving 10lbs for 9length,tactical race mcoy no mug,worth a lay 4/9?.

Well giving it 10lb only gets Albertas 5 lenth closer so had it all to do on ground that also ain't wot it wants everything is in masters favour today as not worried if it tactical as masters younger legs will be to fast for Albertas who is almost 11 and will prob need to step up in trip soon itself but it is defo no mug but I think this race will b masters easiest task this season as it will b an upward hill from here

masterminded is a place lay....biblical.

lb per lengh?.

Class is Class!

2 class horses.agreed.

deadbrain 2lb should give a lenth so 10lb should = 5 lenth and master beat him by 9 last time over c&d so still has 4 to find on that but never as stright forward as that but i think master will be about a stone further forward than albertas right now plus very unexposed at the trip plus fresh record ect

I think PN had Tatiano earmarked for this so this is an afterthought. And Jonjo reckons Alberta's is flying at home. If you must have a bet good luck to you. A watching brief for me.

I only back 1/2 shots in conditions races where I know the horse is fit and better than the opposition. You know neither of those here and it is a handicap.

i work to alb per length stood me in good sted over the years,good luck.

going on nichols he says master has came on for his work far more early this year as was goin to wait till ascot next month with him but no certs in life but a would rather blow ma tank on this beast than fritter it away on gash racing as del boy says he who dares wins haha i hope

1/2 looks an absolute steal considering what in effect is a one horse race, I'm presuming the rancid stable are going to use the roan chase once again as a racecourse school for Albertas? like they did last year, horse beaten 45L behind monets garden, pure faith is simply out classed, only danger is the fenses although usually a very sound and fluent jumper MM has on occasion thrown in the odd horrendous blunder, but with only 3 runners and with Ruby dictating things? jumping shouldn't be an issue although the fences are always an obstacle there to be negotiated something you always have in the back of your mind before going in heavy..

in to 1.4...might wait to get something slightly better ir or take 1.4 after i've seen it jump a couple

egner Joined: 11 Jan 07
Replies: 5604 22 Oct 11 12:47   
masterminded is a place lay....biblical.

did it place

MM for retirement I think?

Came 3rd m8, hard lines

The clues were there?

TT PARDON.

What a race!

Told you Clive wasn't that confident.

Will come on tons for that race though.

MONEY TREE
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Replies: 16766 22 Oct 11 11:17   
easy winner.

BLACKBALLED, SAY AGAIN.

Hibore...good call.........id already backed the winner..............looked well!

A lot of Pumpkin's are nowhere near fully wound up

I never get this horse right. Backed it at Aintree after it won QM. Backed it in QM it lost and thought it had no chance at Aintree when it won easy. Backed it today and ran disappointing. Pure faith didn't seem to want to go past. Could have been a big shock.

Albertas is very a hard horse to get by when leading. Don't know why AP holds him up in some races.

Well lets just say that Albertas Run wasn't fully wound up either, for MM to be well beaten by Pure Faith suggests Pumpkin would want to have left mountains to work on, I have a feeling this horse is gone at the game.

Fair shout Hibore

BLACKBALLED,ADJUST YOUR POUNDAGE.