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By Graham Green racingpost.com
THE BHA review group announced major changes to the controversial whip rules on Friday morning in a last-ditch effort to fend off the threat of strike action by jockeys. The five-hits edict in the final furlong/after the last obstacles has been dropped, although the limit on strikes remains seven times in a Flat race, and eight over jumps. Riders will not lose their riding fee if they get banned for a whip offence and will forfeit their prize-money percentage only if receiving a suspension of seven days or more - up from three. Therefore a jockey who uses one more hit than allowed will not lose his or her prize-money percentage. All whip bans incurred since the introduction of the new harsher regime that came in on October 10 will be subject to the new set of rules. This means Christophe Soumillon, who lost his £52,000 share of the prize-money when banned for five days after hitting Cirrus Des Aigles six times in the final furlong when winning the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot last Saturday, will now be paid. The amended rules come into effect from the start of racing today. The BHA's statement added: "The Board is committed to the highest standards of regulation in the sport, and ensuring that British horseracing continues to lead theway in matters of equine welfare. "This is a sport not without its challenges, but they will always be outweighed by the sport's strengths. These challenges will best be met – and are being met – by finding a common purpose amongst the sport’s participants, and by putting the sport first |
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Ger Lyons Racing
Ok can we all get back to normal now & forget the WHIP! What will journalists have to write about now? Oh yea... The jocks & the exchanges Cornelius Lysaght Whip: Richard Hughes ban amongst penalties rescinded says BHA bha Penalties rescinded, incl. release of riding fees and prize money where applicable. Richard Hughes ban does not stand. Jockeys will no longer lose riding fees in races in which they are in breach of the rules, but will still forfeit their % of prize money just to clarify, Stewards DO have discretion for whip strikes for safety purposes. This was part of original rules changes |
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Sky News doing a bit on it now..
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an embarrassing compromise really. BHA have restrospectively moved the goalposts to rescind the ludicrous fine on Soumillon, but what would they have done if he struck the horse seven times in the last furlong? it doesn't appear to be a rethink, just a fudge of the boundaries
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Please tell me the fat oaf wasn't dragged up...
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if he doesnt keep his big fat fecking trap shut I say we have a "whip" round
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As Scu said the only sport where the rule breakers are rewarded. If a player is offside and the ref blows him offside and the player scores then runs up to the ref and say "Why are you disallowing the goal?" The Ref says "Because you were offside" And the player says "I have to appeal to you, i don't think i was offside". The ref doesn't say "Oh alright i'll give you that goal then" ..Does he eck?. Tthe BHA tho a different sport run to the same principles. They are lily livered imo
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sportinglife.com
Christophe Soumillon is "delighted" at the news the BHA have amended the new whip rules. He will now receive the substantial percentage of the prize-money for winning the Qipco Champion Stakes on Cirrus Des Aigles at Ascot last Saturday having originally been stripped of £52,000 and suspended five days. He had appealed against the ban he received and was understandably thrilled he would no longer have to take any action. "I'm delighted at news, not only for myself but for all the UK jockeys in particular, and horseracing in general," he said. "Well done to the BHA for listening and turning things around, today is a big day." |
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Or was that "Today is a big pay day"
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Paul Roy, Jamie Stier and Tim Morris speak to the BBC about the adjustments to the whip rules http://bbc.in/r6twYA
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Glad they have followed my advice to the letter , surely a consultancy fee is payable.
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This means Christophe Soumillon, who lost his £52,000 share of the prize-money when banned for five days after hitting Cirrus Des Aigles six times in the final furlong when winning the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot last Saturday, will now be paid.
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James Stier saying the fines/bans aren't a punishment, they are an incentive not to offend.
What a mealy-mouthed clown he turned out to be. If you want to give an incentive, give one. Pay a bonus for winning/placing without using the whip if you think that will help, but don't pretend a punishment is anything but that |
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so if a jockey hits a horse 8 times [one over the limit] he/she gets a 5 day ban ? that's still unfair imo
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And the same applies to Group 1s. So now we again have a situation where jockeys with mounts in future Group 1s will not try as hard as they could because they may get suspended. Ony the BHA could make this up. It is criminal.
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James Stier saying the fines/bans aren't a punishment, they are an incentive not to offend.
What a mealy-mouthed clown he turned out to be. Is that the aussie fker who helped introduce the new rules? The geezer who was interviewed on ATR today?? |
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British Horseracing Board just tweeted
The objective of the rules is to robustly safeguard the welfare of both horses and jockeys and protect the reputation of racing Bit late for that now innit ![]() |
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Dear God!
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By Stuart Riley racingpost.com
KEVIN DARLEY gave a lukewarm welcome following the BHA's amendments to the new whip rules announced on Friday morning. The chief of the Professional Jockeys Association (PJA), who has been under fire for not voicing concerns before the rules came into use, said the PJA and its members would need time to digest the changes, adding "serious concerns" remainded. Darley said the PJA would consult jockeys over the weekend. "There are still serious concerns about the level of penalties for minor infringements of the rules," he said in a statement released on Friday afternoon. "A jockey could still be in breach of the rules and face a heavy penalty for using the whip in the best interests of safety and horsemanship. There are also concerns among jockeys about the way that the rules may impact differently on Flat and jump racing." "Discussions among jockeys about the amendments will continue today and over the weekend. These amendments have been announced only this morning and jockeys need time to assess them. Opinions are being canvassed among jockeys, many of whom are at trainers' yards and will be riding at racecourses this afternoon and evening." On a positive note, Darley added: "The PJA is pleased that the BHA has recognised that the new rules over the use of the whip did require amendments, especially in regard to the limitations on the use the whip in the final furlong and after the last fence in Flat and jump racing respectively, as well as in regard to the forfeiting of riding fees. "We are pleased that the impact and the effectiveness of the rules will be constantly monitored, and jockeys will wish to be fully consulted." |
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This is a dangerous sport,boys and girls putting their lives on the line.
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hoe does the new rules help a jockey in a 3 mile chase on bad ground?
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Cornelius Lysaght has implied all is still not well with the midg....with the jockeys.
seems that though jockeys talking amongst themselves, likely to accept amendments, but still unhappy re penalties & 8-limit for jumps |
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@claimsfive chris cook
World Horse Welfare "deeply disappointed" & "dismayed" over changes to whip rules, espec end to '5 strokes after last' rule for jump racing "The rules and the penalties have now been weakened, which must decrease their chances of working" - World Horse Welfare |
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This babys still going to roll
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Yep, just wait till Winter kicks in..
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Jamie Spencer on ATR now.."Jockeys are weak, they always take it lying down and that is why we're riding for peanuts"
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Jemser not happy with the PJA
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This baby is not shirking.Churchill.
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They'll have to Omit a few fences if the ground is testing when Long Distance chases ar run imo, either that or "Finished Alone" could become more familiar.
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Darley got a fkn cheek. He was one who really knew how to use the whip. Fkn hypocrite.
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The problem will not be solved until the jockeys strike and the sooner they do it the better. NH racing in particular will become a total joke.
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Within reason Stew,give them the WHIP' hand!
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8 smacks or McKeown specials before halfway, and then cruise home in your own time..
Miscreants charter.. |
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At The Races
If you've missed it today, watch Jamie Stier's BHA whip regulation statement again on ATR in 15 mins after the 4.30 at Fakenham. |
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Cornelius Lysaght
#Whip: just heard jockeys at Newbury have voted to strike; all but 1 rider said yes to strike; result of similar vote at Donc not known yet balloting of PJA members at Newbury (voted yes), Doncaster (not yet known) & Wolverhampton (this evening); seems to be Flat only atm senior riders in conference call discussions this evening; should have results of ballots by then |
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No matter which way you look at this it was a massive PR disaster. The BHA managed to create an issue over something that could have been simply handled by punishing jockeys sereverly who transgressed the original whip rule. The stick does not harm horses, it is just that it looked bad when someone was seen to be using the stick really excessively. All that was required was to punish the bad boys really severely.
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The flat jockeys argued that limiting the number of hits in the final furlong was too difficult because they didn't know when they had passed the furlong marker.
Why has the NH number of hits after the last obstacle been removed? They know where it is even if it's dolled off. |
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Jamie Stier, Kevin Darley, Roly Owers on CH4 Morning Line..sadly...sorry i meant...Gladly... Big Mac wont be on
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Absolutely spot on councillor. There was nothing wrong with the whip rules as they stood, as there was no abuse. Abuse of the whip rules, yes, but that's a separate matter. It was the BHA who failed to do their duty in ensuring that abuse of the whip rules was suitably punished.
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