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right i have been playing around with a place laying system for a while now, but i would like to know where i can get betfair sp prices for the lay of a place of a horse at the end of the day so i can keep a good record of whats happening and discount prices that are too high
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When on HORSE RACING page on BF ....click on the header ...Form / Results and TIMEFORM pops up etc etc GL
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ok cheers,it only gives the back place sp though guess i will just have to add a point on and take that as the lay as a rough guide, not decided what my max lay will be yet, will be around 6-1 at a guess, here are todays selections:
13th oct brighton 3.00 savior sand 4.00 methayel 4.30 buxton 5.00 magical speedfit wincanton 2.20 moving wings 2.50 foreign king 3.20 falcon flight 3.50 lavenoak lad 4.20 dragons den uttoxeter 3.10 nautical approach 4.10 always bold 4.40 red kingdom 17.10 ebony diamond kempton 20.50 ballina blue a lot of them are high prices but not all,lets see how it goes |
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The back PLACE odds shown on TF site at BFSP include the 1....
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yes but i want the lay place odds, sometimes there can be quite a big difference between back and lay on place markets due to them being so weak, i think maybe 4 or 5 of the ones i have put up today will be a bet, going past results i have found this system too be excellent with short price horses i.e under evens for the place although they dont spring up to often.
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The BFSP is the price that SP bets are settled whether they are Back or Lay - are they not?
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im not sure about that, never used sp, not looked at it, if thats the case makes it a lot easier to work out what would have been a bet and what would not have
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The BFSP is definitely the settled price for all bets - Back or Lay.
I use them to research many a system, including a number on the Place market. But never found anything that offered any returns decent enough to justiy the time I would spend executing them, that is if they made any money at all. |
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ok thanks lets see how mine get on today then, from the limited research i have done it works well, watch them all place today now.ha
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Blimey, bagnall - If you did not already know that - or had not even sussed it - the clue being SP .... it don't augur too well for the rest of your research.
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i know onlooker very poor on my part, feel free to hurl abuse when it looks like a crock of s**t later
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bagnall - I have probably done you a favour.
The reverse scenario is probably more likely, now. |
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Mr 82-I totally agree with one of your lay selections but have no opinion on any of the others.
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Pos (draw) Dist Horse Age Weight Eqp
Jockey Trainer In-play price SPs and Advantage High Low BSP ISP +/− Place 1 Merigo (FR) 7 10-0 Timmy Murphy Andrew Parker 8.60 - 8.46 7.50 9% 2.42 If you layed above one, as shown on TF results .......the odds would have been 1.42-1 in PLACE market. The 1 is always shown on ALL the above odds shown on TF site......ISP shown as 7 is 6-1 etc etc |
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thanks ppl, the first one was unplaced, but think the price would have been too big to be a selection
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The first one was 28/1 industry SP -
8.69 PLACE SP on Betfair - in the lowest possible grade Handicap Hurdle. Your second one was industry SP 18/1 ------------------------------------- Doubt you will have many 'following you in' at those prices. You only need one to 'creep into the frame' at those prices - which can easily happen in this type of low grade racing ... a 100/1 shot PLACED in the first at Uttoxeter - and it will swipe ALL of any profit you have built up. |
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Pity they don't have a market on - 'Which horses will be non-runners'
You've found 3 already. |
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i realise this, im just putting up all the selections for now, if you look at the rest there are at least 4 that will be small odds
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noticed that im picking a lot of N/R
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3.50 lavenoak lad should be a more interesting selection
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13th oct
brighton 3.00 savior sand N/R 4.00 methayel placed 2.84 4.30 buxton unplaced 5.01 5.00 magical speedfit unplaced wincanton 2.20 moving wings unplaced 8.69 2.50 foreign king unplaced 9.22 3.20 falcon flight N/R 3.50 lavenoak lad unplaced 4.91 4.20 dragons den unplaced 6.65 uttoxeter 3.10 nautical approach N/R 4.10 always bold unplaced 2.56 4.40 red kingdom unplaced 20.22- this is far to big for my liking wont be anymore this big 17.10 ebony diamond N/R kempton 20.50 ballina blue 6.16pts up with 1 runner to go |
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thats not bad mate i dont mind place laying and was doing ok with it for a while
then it went t@ts up! How do you get your selections if you dont mind me asking? |
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i will go into a bit more in a week or so after i have had a few days posting selections, i only do handicaps jumps or flat, as weight is a big part of the system
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tommorrows selections:
14th oct cheltenham 3.20 raslan 5.40 rock of deauville haydock 5.20 frontline girl 5.55 nezhenka redcar 4.20 chookie hamilton 5.30 breezolini wolverhampton 21.20 ace master |
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cheers gud luck mate i will keep an eye on how you do
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good finish to the day ballina blue well beaten place sp odds (6.16) 7.16pts up
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hi bag, thx for tips & well done.
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Good first day at the office Bagsy
 Keep it up !  |
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hi bags hows it goin? Just in from work and layed that last one front line girl! cheers
havent checked how rest have done yet? |
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just checked good work mate! any chance you could post tommorows
selections tonight as im working tommorow? Cheers  |
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yeah will do was really happy with turning over the nicholls hot pot, 1.41 to place!
still a working progress this, but looking good so far but plenty of time for the bubble to burst |
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cheers mate, i had a really silly big win bet on that hobbs horse
that got turned over which has screwed up my week!! I never learn il try followin urs tomorrow and be disciplined for a change!!!! |
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14th oct
cheltenham 3.20 raslan unplaced 2.30 5.40 rock of deauville unplaced 1.46 haydock 5.20 frontline girl unplaced 4.01 5.55 nezhenka unplaced 8 redcar 4.20 chookie hamilton unplaced 3.13 5.30 breezolini unplaced 2.86 wolverhampton 21.20 ace master so 13.16 pts up so far good stuff will post tomorrows selections shortly |
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15th oct
catterick 2.55 cocktail charlie 4.00 malcheek 5.15 osgood cheltenham 3.50 north island 4.25 ikorudu road tomorrows selections kelso 2.10 blue shark 3.55 beidh tine anseo 5.05 justtheoneforyou wolverhampton 5.25 red yarn 6.00 true to form 8.00 kingsdale orion 9.00 qeethaara |
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I place lay... the odds on win lay just aren't worth it when you move outside the top 3 in the betting.
It can be hard getting decent amounts on when you move outside the top 50% favs... A strategy that works for me is to take the number of betfair places + 2 and just rate that number of horses (in odds order). They can't all place can they!? |
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I would really like to see the IR prices published in the place market,not just the win market on TF
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Day 2 Bagsy
Another 6 pts in the bag Ditto ish Yeah |
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Hi guys ('n gals ?), I just joined the forum & looking forward to making some £££'s from some of your posts which look very interesting. bagnall82 deffo looks promising so will put some SMALL bets on his. Thanks in advance to all & hoping to add my tuppence worth shortly. Good luck all, David.
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I seem to have made my 1st post as IwonIwon & it's this name I seem to be automatically logged in as...sorry, I am actually The Tattie howker. Can you tell me how to log in under my own name? Thanks.
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you are stuck with it........imo
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