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bagnall82
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right i have been playing around with a place laying system for a while now, but i would like to know where i can get betfair sp prices for the lay of a place of a horse at the end of the day so i can keep a good record of whats happening and discount prices that are too high

thanks
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Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 4:00 PM BST
going well so far today 3 out of 3 beat 16.16pts up
Report bonscott • October 15, 2011 4:17 PM BST
they had good prices to... today 4/4

do u bet LvL stakes or Liabilty?
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 4:36 PM BST
one has been placed now a 5/1f 2.28 to place so not very damaging, lvl stakes at the moment but liability could be the way to go, as when looking back through past results its the bigger prices that damage the system, tend to get the small prices turned over such as the nicholls horse yesterday.
Report get in there gamsty! • October 15, 2011 4:45 PM BST
any of them come first yet?
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 5:13 PM BST
one yesterday 7/1 i think
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 5:14 PM BST
19/21 selections unplaced
Report greedkillsmybankagain • October 15, 2011 5:16 PM BST
wdbagnall82
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 5:20 PM BST
20/22 unplaced, surely the bubble will burst have a 2/1f at 6.00 wolves
Report Do wah Diddy • October 15, 2011 5:48 PM BST
KEEP IT UP
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 7:17 PM BST
only two for tomorrow

bath
4.10 magicalmysterytour

kempton
3.50 key cutter
Report taipan501 • October 15, 2011 7:34 PM BST
top stuff! whats the secret?
Report yeahyeahwhatever • October 15, 2011 8:55 PM BST
oh I think qeethaara is a risk.... good while since last run on AW and although he's top weight, his OR has dropped way down..

gl though
Report taipan501 • October 15, 2011 8:56 PM BST
so its a good bet then?
Report bagnall82 • October 15, 2011 9:18 PM BST
+20.4pts last race at wolves was not a bad affair for a class 6 lot of winners in that group
Report madhatters • October 15, 2011 10:46 PM BST
Dare 3
& another 6 in the pot
WD Bagsy Grin
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 16, 2011 7:40 AM BST
Nice thread this.

All the best with it fella.
Report smokie • October 16, 2011 1:48 PM BST
well done mate you helped me yesterday!
i had winning day but still had bad week
with my own selections!!!
Report bagnall82 • October 16, 2011 4:14 PM BST
0.1pts profit today haha,but a profit is a profit and thats 4/4 days
+20.5pts
Report bagnall82 • October 16, 2011 4:23 PM BST
tomorrows selections

17 oct

pont
3.10 bold bidder
4.10 riptide
4.40 solicitor
5.10 whozthecat

plumpton
3.20 ebony diamond
Report The Knight • October 16, 2011 6:53 PM BST
bagnall82

Mate, I would seriously think twice about keep on telling these horses. If they start placin you will be ridculed but, and this is really important, IF you have hit on something leigitimate others will soon jump on the bandwagon and the prices will start to get longer as their is a clamour to take the lays...

If something works, keep it to yourself!! Don't forget you are in competition on here against other punters, not bookies.
Report Do wah Diddy • October 16, 2011 6:57 PM BST
WELL DONE AND YOUR WELL IN PROFIT,THE BOOKIES DONT WIN  OFF EVERY BET ,ITS THE PROFIT AT THE END OF EACH  FINANTIAL YEAR ,KEEP IT UP

  ONLY WHEN YOU GO INTO NEGATIVE EQITY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND AT THE MOMENT YOUR WELL UP.

THERES PEOPLE KEEPING A GOOD EYE ON YOUR THREAD ,AND IF IT KEEPS BEING SUCCESFUL THEY WILL STAY UP 24 HOURS ADAY TRYING TO WORK IT OUT , I WILL BE ONE OF THEM
Report get in there gamsty! • October 16, 2011 7:43 PM BST
the knight. i can assure you this mans success will not affect the prices. even if he keeps up what he's doing.
Report smokie • October 16, 2011 7:56 PM BST
correct get in there! Thanx again bagnali good luck with your selections
tommorow
Report bagnall82 • October 16, 2011 8:26 PM BST
I have no doubt ill get ridiculed if they start placing, but to honest I dont care its just a bit of fun for me, I know also a bad day will come along shortly probably starting with tomorrow
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 17, 2011 6:49 AM BST
bag . . . keep confident, and when the knockers come . . . . .


fook um.

nice one.Happy
Report smokie • October 17, 2011 9:07 AM BST
well said private!!!!    HappyHappyHappy
Report inono • October 17, 2011 9:32 AM BST
bagnall82

Well done

As already posted above - There are that many fruit cakes at this forum that I am shocked you haven't been got at already - even though you are winning
Ignore the fruit cakes when they arrive

If you class what you are doing as fun, how good are you when being serious?

All the very best in the future, good luck
Report tomorrow • October 17, 2011 10:36 AM BST
Dig a decent trench about twice the width of the pipe and a meter longer, place gravel along the bottom allowing for a fall if need be, lay pipe and backfill. Works every time
Report cardifffc • October 17, 2011 10:44 AM BST
well done place laying is very dificult.....ive tried and failed
Report Do wah Diddy • October 17, 2011 5:23 PM BST
WELL DONE BAGNALL THATS 5 WINNING DAYSOUT OF 5

  COULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME THE WINNING SYSTEM ON THE FORUM MESSAGING SYSTEM TO DO WAH DIDDY ,AND IF I GET RICH I WILL TREAT YOU ,AND YOU CAN BE MY BEST FRIEND ,AND I WILL EVEN PUT UP WITH YOU ,EVEN IF YOU ARE BOREING ,WHICH I AM SURE YOUR NOT ,BUT JUST INCASE YOU ARE IM A GOOD LISTENER WHEN IVE MONEY IN MY POCKET

DONT FORGET TO SEND ME THE SYSTEM ,IM HERE WAITING
Report Do wah Diddy • October 17, 2011 5:25 PM BST
I PROMISE I WONT CALL YOU IF IT ALL GOES WRONG ,YOU HAVE MY WORD IM HERE WAITING
Report Do wah Diddy • October 17, 2011 5:30 PM BST
THE REST OF YOU GO AWAY YOU WILL SPOIL IT ,
Report MrHunt • October 17, 2011 5:32 PM BST
does smokie follow everyone except the pied piper?
Report smokie • October 17, 2011 6:11 PM BST
new you would be sniffin about soon enuff HUNT!
How are you? No i dont follow everyone! I work full time and dont have loadsa time so
i am always happy to follow someone whos doin ok!
Report smokie • October 17, 2011 6:12 PM BST
not too bad to today Bagnali! Happy
Report bagnall82 • October 17, 2011 7:40 PM BST
+21pts I make it, not going to give this system away it could be gold dust! but when it fails you can all have it!
I think with the start of the NH season proper a few bad results could be coming my way but ill carry on.
Please all just because its going well dont start lumping on, these picks are at the end of the day just my opinion albeit with a system.
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 17, 2011 7:44 PM BST
BAG . . . YOUR LACK OF CONFIDENCE IS WORRYING.

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF FFSLove
Report bagnall82 • October 17, 2011 7:49 PM BST
tomorrows selections

yarmouth
5.20 mambo spirit

lingfield
5.00 green earth

exeter
3.10 trooper clarence
3.40 forest ryhthem
4.10 rory boy
Report Tightfisted • October 17, 2011 9:09 PM BST
Well done Bagnall, but let me show you a similar system I've been keeping tabs on.

            1Jan - 31-Dec 2010        1 Jan - 15 Oct 2011   
    P/L        -9.08         571.90    
    Max        131.78         571.90    
    Min        -44.17         -33.65    


This year you couldn't lose if you tried.
Report smokie • October 18, 2011 8:40 PM BST
unlucky especially with non runners today!
wots ur thots for tomorrow?
Report bagnall82 • October 18, 2011 9:08 PM BST
picking a couple of winners today 2 N/R and a 9/2 shot that came last had it all really! 2.2pts down i make it +18.8pts 

tomorrows selections

fontwell
4.00 take a mile
4.30 catspan
5.05 bankstair

kempton
9.20 spa's dancer

worcester
4.20 maid of silk
4.55 maraafeq
Report Do wah Diddy • October 18, 2011 11:16 PM BST
JUST A HICCUP ,KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP
Report bagnall82 • October 19, 2011 5:15 PM BST
well gone well so far today 3/3 beat +21.8pts
Report smokie • October 19, 2011 6:44 PM BST
well done fella!
Report Do wah Diddy • October 19, 2011 7:33 PM BST
ME AND SMOKIE ARE YOUR BIGGEST FANS ,WE HAVE FAITH IN YOU ,TAKE US ALL THE WAY ON YOUR JOURNEY ,,DONT DROP US OFF ON THE WAY TO OUR FORTUNE
Report Do wah Diddy • October 19, 2011 7:33 PM BST
ME AND SMOKIE ARE YOUR BIGGEST FANS ,WE HAVE FAITH IN YOU ,TAKE US ALL THE WAY ON YOUR JOURNEY ,,DONT DROP US OFF ON THE WAY TO OUR FORTUNE
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 20, 2011 6:42 AM BST
Im cominLaugh
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 20, 2011 6:43 AM BST
On the journey not sexual i might addShocked
Report bagnall82 • October 20, 2011 7:26 AM BST
todays selections

brighton
2.30 red yarn
3.35 eager to bow

carlise
2.55 what a dream
3.55 taratenno

ludlow
4.50 man in black

wolves
6.10 mcbriney
7.40 salarosa
8.10 you have control
9.10 gala spirit
Report bagnall82 • October 20, 2011 7:28 AM BST
+22.8pts
Report smokie • October 20, 2011 9:15 PM BST
not too bad again today mate! pity about
gala spirit! still made profit!   cheers
Report Do wah Diddy • October 20, 2011 10:08 PM BST
YES KEEP YOUR CHIN UP ,IVE CANCELLED MY 2012 HELEECOPTER MK 3 DELUXE WITH LEATHER UPHOLSTERY , BUT TRY AND IMPROOVE IT ,AND IF IM STILL ALIVE IN 2013 I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE TWIN CARB ONE
Report Do wah Diddy • October 20, 2011 10:11 PM BST
IT DOESNT MATTER ABOUT MY  85 YEAR OLD MAM CLEARING THE GARDEN FOR THE HELEECOPTER LANDING PAD ,SHE SAID SHES MORE ROOM NOW TO HANG HER WASHING OUT
Report Do wah Diddy • October 20, 2011 10:13 PM BST
ME AND MY MAM STILL HAVE LOADS OF FAITH IN YOU  XXXXX
Report inono • October 20, 2011 10:13 PM BST
Well done - Very good selecting - Place laying is so difficult - Beaten horses being nursed home and all that

Keep winning
Report madhatters • October 20, 2011 10:16 PM BST
Nice one Bags Grin
Report madhatters • October 20, 2011 10:16 PM BST
Nice one Bags Grin
Report bagnall82 • October 21, 2011 7:34 AM BST
make yesterday even so still +22.8pts todays horses:

fakenham

2.45 no panic
4.30 smack that

newbury
4.40 orientalist

wolves
7.50 munaawer
Report bagnall82 • October 21, 2011 8:11 PM BST
+23.4pts 0.6pts up on the day

tomorrows selections

aintree
2.25 rollwiththepunches
5.15 gansey

chepstow
4.15 robinson collonges

stratford
3.20 pickamus
4.25 wessex king

wolves
7.50 miracle play
9.20 red cape
Report Do wah Diddy • October 21, 2011 9:17 PM BST
KEEP IT UP
Report PRIVATE-H-PILE • October 22, 2011 3:31 AM BST
Nice one. . . il av a dabble
Report smokie • October 22, 2011 9:13 AM BST
still doin alright cheers
Report madhatters • October 22, 2011 10:02 PM BST
Bit of a knock back today Bags Sad
Report Do wah Diddy • October 22, 2011 10:51 PM BST
DONT LET IT GET YOU DOWN IT PROOVES YOUR HUMAN ,IF ANY ALIENS LAND ON EARTH
Report smokie • October 23, 2011 9:19 AM BST
everybody has bad days mate! Dont give up!
Report smokie • October 23, 2011 1:31 PM BST
any thots for today bags?
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:42 PM BST
ALL IVE WORKED OUT IS WHAT HES TOLD ME ,ITS HANDEECAPS ,IVE WORKED OUT THEY DIDNT WIN LAST TIME OUT ,AND IVE SPENT HOURS ON IT ,THERES EVERYDAYS PAPER IN MY BEDROOM SINCE HE STARTED ,I THINK I NEED THE CODE BREAKERS FROM THE SECOND WORLD WAR TO HELP ME .ITS NO GOOD ME TELLING LIES LIKE THE REST ON HERE ,I WOULD TRY AND WORK THE SYSTEM OUT AND ,I WOULD BE THE GREEDYEST PERSON IN THE LAND ,IVE TRIED ALL SYSTEMS ,IVE NEVER FOUND A WINNING ONE ,

IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE IM THICK ,OR WHOEVER PICKS THEM THAT ARE ALLOWED TO WIN ISNT ME
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:50 PM BST
THIS BETFAIR IS A MACHINE LIKR THE MACHINES IN THE BOOKIES

THEM THAT SAY THEM WHO PLAY THE MACHINES IN THE BOOKIES ARE DUMMIES ,ARE DUMMIES LIKE THEM AND ME THIS IS A MACHINE WHERE YOU CANT WIN ,

THE ONLY BIG WINNERS ARE THE BOT USERS AND THEM WITH INSIDE INFORMATION ,I HAVE THE EMPTY POCKETS AND BANK BALANCE TO PROOVE IT
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:52 PM BST
YOUR PLAYIMNG AGAINST A MECHANICAL ROBOT
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:54 PM BST
IT OFFERS YOU A PRICE AND THEN IF YOU WANT A FEW POUNDS ON IT ,IT GIVES YOU A LITTERLER PRICE LIKE THE BOOKIES DO
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:56 PM BST
IM NOT BETTING AGAINST JOE BLOGS ,IM BETTING AGAINST  MACHINES THAT CAN SKIN YOU ALIVE
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 2:58 PM BST
BUT THE BEST BIT IS I KEEP PLAYING ,THERES NOTHING LIKE AN OLD FOOL ,ESPECIALLY WHEN HE WAS ONCE A YOUNG FOOL
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:01 PM BST
I MIGHT AS WELL LOOK FOR AN ALIEN MILLIONAIRE  FROM PLUTO AS A WINNING SYSTEM ON BETFAIR
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:03 PM BST
IVE GOT MORE CALCULATIONS THAN ALL THE INVENTORS PUT TOGETHER ,IVE TRIED EVERYTHING
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:05 PM BST
ALL THE INFORMATION TO TELL YOU ,THAT YOU CANT WIN AT GAMBLING IS AT MY FINGERTIPS ,NUT SINCE I STARTED GAMBLING IVE CHOSE TO IGNORE IT ,NO WONDER IM A NUTCASE
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:06 PM BST
THE BOOKS TELL YOU ,YOU CANT WIN AT GAMBLING ,

SO WHATS THE FIRST THING DO WAH DIDDY DOES IS GAMBLE
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:07 PM BST
FREDDIE WILLIAMS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM KNOW WHERE IM COMEING FROM
Report Do wah Diddy • October 23, 2011 3:11 PM BST
YOU ASKED A QUESTION HAS ANY ONE TRIED TO WORK IT OUT ,SO IM TELLING YOU MY EXPERIENCE OF TRYING TO WORK IT OUT ,THEN YOU WANT ME LOCKED UP ,WELL SOME OF THEM OTHERS WANT LOCKING UP AS WELL

MY MAMS SHOUTED ME FOR MY DINNER IM GOING ,OTHERWISE SHE WILL GET ANGRY IF IT STARTS TO GO COLD ,BUT ILL BE BACK
Report bagnall82 • October 23, 2011 4:52 PM BST
-8.2pts shocking day they were drifing like a barge aswell and then getting placed, i did fear the start of the NH season would bring about this as i said in my earlier post so now down to +15.4pts

tomorrows selections

leciester
3.30 ametyst dawn

redcar
3.40 hal of a lover

sothwell
3.20 anjomarba
Report taipan501 • October 23, 2011 11:45 PM BST
bagnel, skimming off the edge a little there- i made it (9.2)pts, but i may have miscalculated, although i doubt it
Report taipan501 • October 23, 2011 11:47 PM BST
and doh wa diddy, your point about the prices on here- spot on the money lad- happens me EVERY time, the money that was there just vanishes into thin air
Report bagnall82 • October 24, 2011 3:46 PM BST
your right taipan i miss calculated -8.28pts it was, someone shoot me! ill take that -0.1 off the 3 pts made today
so we stand at:

+18.3pts
Report taipan501 • October 24, 2011 3:48 PM BST
no, its a (1)pt difference
Report bagnall82 • October 24, 2011 3:59 PM BST
gansey (2.47)
robinson collonges (3.92)
pickamus (4.65)
wessex king (4.24)

those prices of timeform = -11.28 + 3pts for rollwiththepunches, miracle play and red cape and you get -8.28 if im wrong i apologise but the maths is working out the same every time for me
Report taipan501 • October 24, 2011 4:00 PM BST
no, as i said i may be wrong. i only quickly done it in my head
Report bagnall82 • October 24, 2011 4:01 PM BST
no! you just said its another -1pt make your mind up!
Report taipan501 • October 24, 2011 4:13 PM BST
your right, sorry- must have missed a winner
Report bagnall82 • October 24, 2011 8:13 PM BST
tomorrows selections

catterick
2.20 belle bayardo
2.50 clockmaker
5.20 prince of vasa

yarmouth
3.30 loyal n trusted
4.30 make my dream

chepstow
4.40 wrapitupboys
Report madhatters • October 24, 2011 8:14 PM BST
Full house today Bagser Happy
Report Do wah Diddy • October 24, 2011 8:48 PM BST
WELL DONE
Report smokie • October 26, 2011 8:51 AM BST
hi mate wots yer thots for today?
Report top2rated • October 26, 2011 1:26 PM BST
horseracebase site has been down since late yesterday afternoon.

Just a hunch but that may be the reason why there have been no lays posted for today.
Report zipper • October 26, 2011 1:41 PM BST
Hi freddi zip here, one under the radar  hope that tightfist dont pick up on  this ........  2.50 Haydock  Brother Bob  ,,lay it tell your nose bleeds ...Freddie good to talk . be lucky as us Gamblers say .....
Report smokie • October 26, 2011 1:46 PM BST
wot is horseracebase????
Report smokie • October 26, 2011 1:49 PM BST
just have! lol! cheers freddie!
Report zipper • October 26, 2011 2:23 PM BST
Freedi your post 13.45 re favs ,the stats say only 33% of favs win  It dont matter who trains em  who rides em  its still 33%  since  records began trust me   lay this fav.if zip is wrong  i will come on and say SORRY.......... i Lost  3 grand .
Report zipper • October 26, 2011 3:07 PM BST
Freddi zip   just won 3 Grand    it easy easy money  when you know the score..
Report zipper • October 26, 2011 3:14 PM BST
Hows this for discipline my first bet / lay won me £3K I would have had 2 more backs & 1 more lay but it don't matter. £3K profit on the day & Zips happy ... I ain't greedy. Thats how to gamble.

It ain't gambling long term it's investimg.
Report zipper • October 26, 2011 3:29 PM BST
Freddie, No I don't go racing anymore. I have RUK & ATR, and my lovely wife & nurse in my home.
Report Tightfisted • October 26, 2011 8:14 PM BST
To combat infestation by threadless cockroaches, a little knowledge might be useful.

1 Point Back, 3 Points Place Back


            ZIP's Nappy        Win=1        BSP        1 pnt win        P/L        Plcd=1        BSP plc        x3 pnts        P/L plc   
    01-Oct        Stonefield Flyer .         0        5.20        -1.00         -1.00         0        2.44        -3.00         -3.00    
    02-Oct        Galikova        0        8.69        -1.00         -2.00         0        3.08        -3.00         -6.00    
    03-Oct        Humungosaur        0        1.71        -1.00         -3.00         1        1.19        0.54         -5.46    
    04-Oct        Zarius        0        7.20        -1.00         -4.00         0        2.36        -3.00         -8.46    
    05-Oct        Class Monitor        0        2.32        -1.00         -5.00         1        1.99        2.82         -5.64    
    06-Oct        Blue Shoes        0        4.35        -1.00         -6.00         0        1.74        -3.00         -8.64    
    07-Oct        Springinmystep        0        17.59        -1.00         -7.00         0        3.99        -3.00         -11.64    
    08-Oct        Rainforest Magic .         0        25.96        -1.00         -8.00         0        5.89        -3.00         -14.64    
    09-Oct        The Blue Banan        0        7.20        -1.00         -9.00         0        2.28        -3.00         -17.64    
    10-Oct        Xpres Maite .        0        10.67        -1.00         -10.00         1        2.64        4.67         -12.96    
    11-Oct        Supreme Spirit         0        10.00        -1.00         -11.00         0        4.05        -3.00         -15.96    
    12-Oct        Baraaya        0        14.85        -1.00         -12.00         0        2.80        -3.00         -18.96    
    13-Oct        Renegotiate        0        13.75        -1.00         -13.00         0        3.00        -3.00         -21.96    
    14-Oct        Zakreet        0        6.20        -1.00         -14.00         0        1.97        -3.00         -24.96    
    15-Oct        Deacon Blues        1        3.55        2.42         -11.58         1        1.70        2.00         -22.97    
    16-Oct        Rebel Fitz        1        2.77        1.68         -9.90         1        1.63        1.80         -21.17    
    17-Oct        Retainer         0        4.58        -1.00         -10.90         1        2.10        3.14         -18.04    
    18-Oct        Aljamaaheer        1        2.47        1.40         -9.50         1        1.50        1.43         -16.61    
    19-Oct        Ellaal        1        3.75        2.61         -6.89         1        1.46        1.31         -15.30    
    20-Oct        Sivola De Sivola        1        2.14        1.08         -5.80         1        1.23        0.66         -14.65    
    21-Oct        Thomas Morgan        0        5.00        -1.00         -6.80         1        2.18        3.36         -11.28    
    22-Oct        Saigon        0        2.97        -1.00         -7.80         1        1.62        1.77         -9.52    
    23-Oct        Barbatos         1        2.81        1.72         -6.08         1        1.38        1.08         -8.43    
    24-Oct        Boy The Bell        0        3.55        -1.00         -7.08         0        1.64        -3.00         -11.43    
    25-Oct        Mon Brav         0        12.81        -1.00         -8.08         0        4.10        -3.00         -14.43    
    26-Oct        Goninodaethat        0        6.61        -1.00         -9.08         0        2.46        -3.00         -17.43    
            ZIP's Nappy        Win=1        BSP        1pnt win        P/L        Plcd=1        BSP plc        x3 pnts        P/L plc   
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