Ooops Towcester you seem to have upset some.

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David Crosse
Towcester Racecouse wanting to Ban the Whip is a Joke. There just doing a bit of PR!!! If it happened there will be many Void races there! And that will look gr8 for Jump Racing. Well done Towcester,, ye clearly are horsey people!!!


Cornelius Lysaght
Towcester facing backlash over plans for no-whip races as Donald McCain & Peter Scudamore slam firm going (g/f places) as more harmful than whip

Brian Hughes to David Crosse towcester racecourse would get some shock if the jockeys refused to ride there . And trainers not run horses there!!!!

towcester is clearly a sh1thole and they should be doing everything they can to try attract the big trainers and jocks.

analogs can you retweet to mccain the next time he runs one on gd/firm,also wonder will schu be so opionated next time he's on the beeb.

begorra

Now the numero uno of trainers has spoken out.

Paul Nicholls

When will Towcester racecourse wake up to the fact that galloping up and down hills on Firm ground will do more harm than 5 smacks from the last hurdle

I'd say the stewards where sitting there with there ***** in their hands counting the strokes after the last

I thought that the bha directive of a yr or so ago was that the racecourse could only race if it was GTF at the the absolute worse?

Racing round that karzi on concrete is no fun for anybody.

They deserve no runners and no punters tho I'm sure that there are some horses that like that ground but it's few and far between. No one breeds them any more. If there where Deep Run's and Over The River's rivers now i think Presenting and Montjeu would be away down the list but sadly they are not

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Here's Coolmore NH Stallions some of the next generation

Brian Boru
Flemensfirth
Getaway
Golan
Mahler
Milan
Mountain High
Oscar
Scorpion
Vinnie Roe
Westerner

They seem to have faster going on the jumps rather than the flat these days, funny old world

BRIAN BORU
Bay 2000
Sadler's Wells - Eva Luna
Distance won over: 7f. to 15f.

Following Oscar, Old Vic, Accordion, Dr. Massini and Milan, a top class son of SADLER’S WELLS at N.H. stud. Out of a Park Hill Stakes-Gr.3 winner by ALLEGED. Racing Post Trophy-Gr.1 winner at 2 & St. Leger Stakes-Gr.1 winner at 3.
Stands at The Beeches Stud.
Fee for 2011: €2,500
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Here's one for the future 3 MILES + in heavy ground. Vinnie has proper jumping breeding and if i was looking for a stayer out of a good staying mare i'd be heading there with my €2 grand

VINNIE ROE
Bay 1998
Definite Article - Kayu
Distance won over: 7f. to 16f.

Listed winner at 2 years and Group 1 winner at 3, 4, 5   & 6 years from the same sire line as leading NH sires ROSELIER and OVER THE RIVER.

“A superlative race record should be enough, but Vinnie Roe is also from a classic family.”
Irish Field, 18/03/06.


Stands at Grange Stud.
Fee for 2011: €2,000

Cornelius Lysaght
Towcester manager Kevin Ackerman says proposal to stage no-whip races 'isn't about agonising people...best way forward for racecourse'

"Towcester manager Kevin Ackerman says proposal to stage no-whip races 'isn't about agonising people...best way forward for racecourse'"

Where do they find these clowns?

Yeah but Kevin wears snazzy suits

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Cornelius Lysaght
Towcester manager Kevin Ackerman says proposal to stage no-whip races 'isn't about agonising people...best way forward for racecourse'

Do they mean antagonising, or is this a Freudian slip?

Nope Cornelius never makes Freudian slips

Paul Ostermeyer


Jockeys at Towcester boycotted "Towcester TV" this afternoon, whip ban related.

Appears Towcester watering problem is down to a local hosepipe ban. In asked Robert Bellamy why they could not use water from the lakes in the centre of the course - it seems they are purely decorative and only a foot deep. Eventually Environment  Agency allowed three days watering.

Not wiv a name like that he wouldnt . . . . Spoke to a jock once he said when a horse lands after taking a jump on firm ground you feel the shudder through the reigns apparently

THREE Course RECORDS at LUDLOW today ...

   
LUDLOW

GOING: GOOD TO FIRM (Firm in places) changing to FIRM (Good to firm in places) after Race 2 (2.40). Weather conditions: Cloudy.

The first record broken was in a SELLING Hurdle

Second record in an APPRENTICES Chase

Paul Ostermeyer calls us lot a joke


Finally the normally dependable Stewart Machin made an uncharacteristic mistake when calling the wrong winner at Warwick on Monday afternoon, Mistaking  Rio’s Girl for the very similarly coloured Straboe.  I was at Warwick and I can say the professional man that he is Stewart was absolutely shocked and devastated at the mistake he made.

The press room can be the cruellest place at times but even the most cynical hacks, and there were some at Warwick yesterday, were so taken aback at Stewart’s reaction that all offered him words of encouragement and not the extreme micky taking I’m sure he was expecting. The reaction from the guys in the press room indicates the respect we have for Stewart’s commentating.

Of course there was the inevitable verbal diarrhoea being spouted on Betfair, although to be fair it wasn’t as bad as it can be when we get the race mistakes from commentators.

Apparently one punter lost some £38k on Rio’s Girl based of Stewart’s call and many posters were rallying to that punters cause.

Sorry I have no sympathy for the punter at all, indeed I would actually go as far as to say he actually deserves to lose the money.

No commentator, no matter how good he is, is infallible and to rely on a third party when risking such sums of money is insanely stupid.

Also is there not a perverse contradiction here. Stewart is being criticised for mis-identifying two horses, yet the defenders of the punter are not criticising him, yet he too clearly failed to identify the two horses.     

No wonder the Betfair forum is considered such a joke.

37 runners today for 7 races. If it was just down to Towcester we would have no racing after about 2 years. Jockeys and trainers should just boycott the place. They are obviously not interested in horse welfare at all and it just shows that their band-wagon jump on the whips issue was a load of horlicks.  They obviously have their heads up their asses.

I am guessing it was him that posted on a thread titled "Will Machin Apologise"

Could well have been

No wonder the Betfair forum is considered such a joke.


I take a fence at that remark

Who is he. Does he write for a rag or himself?

This Oystermaker Chappie sounds like an utter pencil necked twitt.

This place certainly has it's share of nutters and nomarks but can often reflect the general mood of the betting public who really don't have a voice.

For sure the racing press will never reflect the views of some very clued up well meaning punters who know the time of day.

This industry is so insular and he represents the MINORITY that think the game is run as a playground for patronising ponces like him.

I am sure he would happily suck Machins gonads behind the press tent rather than chastise him but then again he would almost certainly find excuses for lamentable rides ro crooked trainers.

Oi you ponce, the betfair forum say fook you and your like, you will never say it as it is and are a purile mug poncing your way through life with your head up your arse.

You have no idea what the real punting public want and for sure Towcester do not provide it.

David Parry

Understand the point about towcester wanting whip ban whilst producing hard ground....but they didnt declare/run the horses. O&T did that(Owner/trainer).


Nick Luck in reply to a question re;whip and Towcester @ravgarcha think their whip 'stance' was exposed as fairly cynical piece of opportunism pretty quickly.

Russ Kennemore
Why is it that no one listens to the jocks but they listen to the public, I mean it is us that bring the entertainment!

Riders rebel over Towcester's plans to outlaw use of the whip
• Jockeys demand meeting with track officials
• On-course TV coverage boycotted over row

Will Hayler at Towcester
guardian.co.uk,     Wednesday 5 October

The controversial stance over the use of the whip in racing here drew return fire from a number of jockeys on Wednesday, as the row continued over toughened rules due to come into place from next Monday.

Unhappy with comments from Towcester's management that plans remain in place to effectively stop jockeys using the whip by investigating the possibility of staging only hands-and-heels races at the course, riders told officials before the first race that they would refuse to carry out any interviews for the on-course television output.

A deputation of riders later approached the clerk of the course, Robert Bellamy, and demanded to speak to the course's general manager, Kevin Ackerman.

Jockeys including Andrew Thornton, Jimmy McCarthy and Dougie Costello subsequently met with Ackerman for almost an hour, in between races.

"I was pleased to hear their views and to have an opportunity to try and explain our perspective," said Ackerman, who insists that Towcester's position on the whip is based on customer satisfaction rather than a moral crusade or the desire to seek publicity.

"I take issue with the idea that Towcester are trying to put their stamp on racing or dictate to the British Horseracing Authority what should or shouldn't be done.

"We have talked to our racegoers and asked them what they want and we're trying to respond to that demand. These are challenging economic times and we need to do what we can to keep everyone happy.

"We had 3,500 racegoers today and you can't tell me that if no jockey had been allowed to use their whip today, we wouldn't have had as many – and we might well have had more. If the BHA want to use us as a pilot scheme to investigate that further, then that's fine with us."

Ackerman referred to two surveys taken at meetings at the track in May when 500 racegoers were asked whether they would prefer to see the jockeys not using whips. On both occasions, the majority of those questioned answered in the affirmative.

However, a number of jockeys have expressed fears that Towcester's stance is attracting more bad publicity for the sport than good, despite an apparent agreement between the BHA and the Professional Jockeys' Association over the more stringent rules announced last week.

"We told the Towcester management that we thought some of the comments that have been made were inappropriate," said Thornton. "The issue is still at a delicate stage."

Despite an initially positive response to the toughened rules from the likes of prominent riders Tony McCoy and Frankie Dettori, antipathy appears to have increased after a meeting of over 100 jumps jockeys at a BHA seminar at Newbury earlier this week.

This Towcester Whip stance smacks (excuse the pun) of nothing other than self-interest, and publicity - and not in the best interests of racing in general.

Could you imagine a Premiership football club saying that we are only going to allow opposing teams, and ourselves, to play in house slippers - instead of boots - when they come to our ground. - so that nobody will get injured or hurt.

They would get laughed out of the League.

The trainers should not run horses and the jockeys should tell Towcester to go to hell.