So You Think Arc jockey

I think they will. There's always another Arc next year

with the form stouteys in workforce wouldnt win a wolves seller

Frankel will rule the world as a 4 year old. Going to start of by winning every race he's in from The World Cup in Dubai in March to The Japan Cup in November.

Is FRANKEL entered in the F.A. cup?

What a letdown, zilzal.

You mixed that up with beating the particles they shoot around the Hadron Collider mate, Mars is in Feb

wont matter if fred archer is reincarnated ,does not win an arc.
only two more laying days till christmas.

Workforce out to 10-1 on Betfair for Prix De L'Arc de Triomphe as fast ground fears surface

Workforce remains an “intended” runner in the Qatar Prix De L’Arc de Triomphe despite Sir Michael Stoute airing strong concerns about fast ground ahead of Sunday’s race.


Marcus Armytage http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing

“I’ve been very happy with his preparation, but I’m disappointed to hear about the weather forecast,” said Stoute on Thursday. “He’s a big, heavy horse and we do like good ground for him.” Workforce had drifted out to 10-1 on Betfair on Thursday evening.
Last year, Workforce went all the way to Churchill Downs in America before he was taken out of the Breeders’ Cup because of fast ground.
Khaled Abdulla’s racing manager Lord Grimthorpe said: “We’ve been told they’re watering so that’s it’s good for Saturday and on the fast side for Sunday. We don’t want firm ground, but we are keen to run if we can. At this stage he is still an intended rather than unlikely runner.”
However, the French Derby winner Reliable Man must now be considered in the latter category after trainer Alain de Royer Dupree said: “If we don’t have rain, he won’t run.”
With final declarations and the draw on Friday, So You Think and Treasure Beach appear to be Aidan O’Brien’s two definite runners with a question mark now emerging, it seems, over St Nicholas Abbey

Not ideal though if that is the case, to be riding the horse for the first time on the course in the big race itself.

I was saying much earlier in the season after Wonder of Wonders won at Chester that I didn't get Ballydoyle's logic of using Moore on their horses like SYT when they must have known he would be on Stoute horses for the Ballydoyle horses principle targets and feel that the jockey not really knowing the horse partly had an effect on WoW being beaten in the Oaks too.

Add to that neither Leperoux nor SYT have much if any knowledge of Longchamp or that the horse has never won at the trip and that's quite a few negatives to have to overcome. I also don't even think it's a given that SYT will finish ahead of Treasure Beach and wouldn't be too surprised if he didn't, assuming both run their races.

Time to offload those SYT bets...now before its too late

Hello Mr Heffernan welcome to the forum

So that will be the ex-Champion Apprentice, 3 times Champion Jockey, Derby/Oaks same season double, Arc, King George, Coronation Cup (x2), Eclipse, Juddmonte International, Irish Oaks, Hong Kong Cup, HK QEII and Breeders' Cup Turf (x2) winning "useless prick who couldn't ride a rocking horse" then?

i think ryan is in the top 5 in the world. i actually think hes the best but am allowing for jocks i havent seen before

Sna not gonna run

The thing is he is use to riding UK no hoppers in setup races, he can't handle a horse that he has to actually think on, one that can change it's rising tactics to suit the rcae as it unfolds.

Unless the race is run as planned he is ****.

Workforce romps home on good to firm ground at Epsom so what the hell Stoute?, these effing trainers do my head in!!.

Heffernan rides So You Think.

Are you suggesting that because you didn't hear about it, it didn't happen?

Stoute was quite open anyway - I didn't get a personal call from the big man...just read the Racing Post.  'Suppose he could have been telling fibs and it was all one big punter put-away...the game's BENT I TELLS YA LADS IT'S ALL BENT!!!!

Well if he was so worried about fast ground for his big heavy horse why didn't he pull him out of the Derby?, his big heavy horse was running on fast ground on one of the most idiosyncratic tracks found anywhere in the World.

Playing mind games as usual, get the excuses in first, although the horse was always going to run anyway.