Trainers that dissapeared off the face of the earth

S Norton
Denys Smith
F Durr
D T Thom

Eamon Tyrell

cheers wee eck, presume he runs them at mijas then

Mick Lambert. Traveling head lad at Easterby's landed a massive treble at crazy odds including Within the Law and little Owl and set himself up training on the outskirts of Malton.

In no time at all he had Keelby Cavalier, Fine Sun, Aristo Treat, Cloudwalker, Fine Sun, Tepylon, Rage Glen winning races for him mostly ridden by Tony Charlton they landed gamble after gamble. He even managed to win the Brockelsby with Our Dynasty, his owner recieving and refusing 1/4 of a million for it. Turned out there were two fools that one that offered it and the one that refused it when Chief Singer left him in his wake in his next race.

Gambling owners flocked to Mick Lambert's yard and he was flying but it was short lived. Tony Charlton had been worth a weight in gold to Mick and a great judge of when a horse was ready to win but he left/retired to start training.  Mick was a great guy but he  himself wasn't a great judge and thought everything he trained was going to win and with too many gambles going astray the owners started to dwindle and Mick disappeared just as quickly as he started. Last I heard he was in Spain recovering from an operation but was doing ok for himself. Lovely fella hope he's in good form.

Roger Fisher was another trainer who set the world alight but I think Dudley Moffat had an awful lot to do with his success. I see he's still around but
nothing like the old days.

It's amazing what difference one person  can make to a training establishment Ken Oliver wouldn't have had a winner if it weren't for his wife Rhona who was totally hands on while Ken stayed home all day.

The next might be Nicky Henderson and he is about to lose or has lost his right hand man , many say is the driving force at Seven Barrows and thing will deteriorate without him around. I'm sure Nicky knows enough about the game and is wide enough not to let that happen but who knows.

As long as he's got a good vet, NJH will be fine...

Mick Lambert died last week sadly,Rondetto.

Remember him well.

Going back to the first trainer mentioned Charlie Cyzer, oops sorry Charles Cyzer, complained about the poor prizemoney for the main reason he was quitting training, but also felt the game had become too informal, people now call me Charlie instead of Charles, shock of horrors!, good riddance to you.

As for Charlie Brooks?, the trainer of Man Mood no less, and the trainer of the suspiciously pulled up odds on Celtic Shot" at Aintree, a 3 horse race, two Pipe runners, with Pipes then stable jockey Peter Scu ellecting to ride Brooks horse, the winner Aquilifer was very well backed, while Celtic Shot was abrubtly pulled up  about half way, while still apparently going well within himself, echos of Man Mood, good riddnace to you too Brooks!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbLGmJQs7_A

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brooks!

bradley could barely pull him up

Vic Soane he who trained My Best Valentine. I met his son in Southern Spain when we were working for connected companies selling villas. Vic retired there as far as I recall.

I'm wrong about my recollection of the Celtic Shot race but only slightly, the horse wasn't actually pulled up but virtually stopped to a walk by Scudamore after drifting out to 1/1 money, and there was actually 5 runners as I found it by googling it.

« 1   Aquilifer 11/2  11 11-5  M C Pipe  — * * »
ch g Deep Run - Gentle Eagle (Symbol) R Dunwoody
  Made virtually all, ridden 2 out, ran on well   
 
« 2  1½  Norton's Coin 4/1  10 11-5  Sirrell Griffiths  — * * »
ch g Mount Cassino - Grove Chance (St Columbus) G McCourt
  Held up, led on bit 3 out, blundered badly and headed next, led approaching last, jumped slowly, soon headed and no extra flat   
 
« 3  25  Stay On Tracks 50/1  9 11-5  W A Stephenson  — * * »
gr g Roselier (FR) - Bee In Bonnet (Track Spare) C Grant
  Prominent until outpaced 12th, soon ridden and behind   
 
« 4  6  Celtic Shot EvensF  9 11-9  C P E Brooks  — * * »
b g Celtic Cone - Duckdown (Blast I) Peter Scudamore
  With leader, hit 11th, soon weakened, tailed off   
 
« PU   Arctic Call 5/1  8 11-5 b Oliver Sherwood  — * * »
b g Callernish - Polar Lady I (Arctic Slave) Jamie Osborne
  Blundered 1st, soon chasing leaders, bad mistake 4th, lost touch 12th, tailed off when pulled up before 14th

John Cz....oski ,I remember him riding in the National in the 60's.
L'Empereur was his mount,I think ,and he was no spring chicken then.
Brave as a lion.

Had a friend with a horse with Mick Easterby.When introduced to Guy Harwood he told him about his horse with Easterby and suggested that Harwood might like to train for him in the future.The reply was that anyone with a horse with Easterby could not afford him as a trainer.Perhaps that is why he ceased to train.

Ken Hogg

Trevor Hawlett

Mick Lamberts funeral thurs morning in newmarket

Gerry Blum.

A Brewster
E Magner
R Hobson
H Maw

keith reverley -retired
ed mcmahon-hs2 sliced straight through his land

Has Jim Best been sighted anywhere near his yard?

Derek Haydn Jones

John ferguson

Len lungo

What is Lenny Lungo doing these days ?

Pushing up daisies , I think.

Derek Haydn Jones retired two years ago & now operates as a livery yard for breaking, resting etc

Philip Mitchell no longer trains.
Have seen him representing Kirk at the racecourse

Oct 3, 2017 -- 8:52AM, Nogoody wrote:

Pushing up daisies , I think.

Nah he is still about , piece in racing post dated July '17 paying tribute to MIRJANS owner

Does he still hold the scottish record for most wins in a season?

Absolutely delighted to hear that Guernseyw , I often backed and collected on his horses. I thought I heard that he topped himself a while ago , really happy to know it's not true , made my day , cheers.

The ramsdens had gone quiet till the neighbour offered her land to hypo's

Gypo's

Think that was Peter Monteith who topped himself, Nogoody, believe Pip Payne did te same thing

Agnes Haddock Tote scoop 6 winner(over £650k)turned trainer but didn't last very long.

Josh Boyes - trained on the Sussex Downs at Pyecombe in Sussex.  Anyone know anything at all about him.   I think he had a plant hire company pre, post or during his training period.

Peter Grayson hasnt been training for a while. Backed a few of his horses on the AW when I first started watching horse racing a few years ago, his horses always missed the break aswell, a tactic he used I think.

Be nice to see him back just for nostalgia.

Peter Chapple Hyam.

Lungo"s daughter married to the trainer Jason Tate, have seen Len with him at the races as recently as the spring this year, looks well does Len..

and a few that you would like to vanish from the face of the earth

Thanks for that Alice's , have a great day.

Oct 3, 2017 -- 2:12PM, cardenden wrote:

and a few that you would like to vanish from the face of the earth

David pipe

ken payne could get them ready.

So could Reg Akehurst

Simon Sherwood, Simon Christian, J Toller, K McCauliffe, Mrs Dutfield. Just a few from the 2000 horses in training annual.

Alan McCabe dissappeared off the face of the earth.........

Tim Thompson Jones
Lord John Fitzgerald
Richard Casey
Don Enrico Incisa (McGillycuddy Reeks)
Peter Hedger
Mohammed Mubarak (Greenline Express)
Neil Graham

Apologies if som of my candidatese have already been mentioned

Peter Calver (Madraco)
Tim Fitzgerald
Willie Jarvis

ALAN BERRY IS A SHOCKING OMISSION

I remember trainer called Will something who unfortunately blew his brains out, think he was a northern trainer.

Susan Piggot
Julie Cecil
Criquette Head

A quick google confirms my memory

Racehorse trainer Will Pearce had been visited by a tax inspector shortly before shooting himself, an inquest into his death heard on Wednesday.

Mar 28, 2025 -- 2:18PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

A quick google confirms my memoryRacehorse trainer Will Pearce had been visited by a tax inspector shortly before shooting himself, an inquest into his death heard on Wednesday.

I'm sure there was a race meeting at York on the Saturday and he had the last winner on the card shortly before killing himself  a few days later.

wasn't York  somewhere down south  Sandown ?

My Adidas when I came off the bouncy castle fckn thieves

Mick Lambert was at the British Racing School round about 1988/1989 as an instructor.....he taught me to rise.
Also John Akehurst missing from this list (Reg Akehurst son) died of cancer in his 40s i think.
John Sheehan also.

taught me to ride

Graham Lockerbie

Len lungo. The legendary Bajan Bandit, king of ayr racecourse. Asleybank investments. They had a load of good horses at one stage

Nicky Vaughan another Trainer sacke by Michael Owen and never heard of since.

What is Rod Simpson up to now?

Will Pearce the horse was Father Hayes iirc,  it was the last race at a Saturday sandown meeting maybe 1991 or 92, I was there that day, and great scenes after the race, but tragedy struck a few days later.

morpteh mackem Joined: 05 Jan 04
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does pat eddery still train ?


Pat Eddery died in 2015

Mar 28, 2025 -- 8:41PM, Facts wrote:

morpteh mackem Joined: 05 Jan 04Replies: 4664403 May 11 20:46

apologies, didnt have a time machine when I asked me question

Cardinal Scott 28 Mar 25 12:50 
Tim Thompson Jones
Lord John Fitzgerald
Richard Casey
Don Enrico Incisa (McGillycuddy Reeks)
Peter Hedger
Mohammed Mubarak (Greenline Express)
Neil Graham

Peter Hedger passed away in 2022.

Neil Graham was / is Racing Director at Chelmsford.

Lee Carter

hi tech

don't know if already been mentioned, Walter Nightingall and George Boyd won the Guineas. cheers.

George Foster
Norma Pook/Twomey
Dai Walters has had a few private trainers that disappeared quickly. Think one was called Boxall, or something similar
Michael Smith (of Orsippus fame). Did well initially, but didn't stick around long.
Ben Pollock
Rhona Brewis

Harry Hogarth has virtually disappeared, but think he has the very occasional runner

Didn't Lee Carter once have a pop at Hugh Taylor on twitter for ruining the price of one his horses?

Richard Guest
Ann Stokell

Andrew Parker
James Adam (passed away relatively recently, if I recall)
Charlie Egerton
Steve Brookshaw

morpteh mackem Joined: 05 Jan 04
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apologies, didnt have a time machine when I asked me question


Lol. Apologies,hadn't spotted  the date of your post !

Michael O' Neill used to train near Liverpool I think.

Roger Fisher another.

Mar 29, 2025 -- 2:49AM, Facts wrote:

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Peter Winkworth

Gavin Hunter.
Capt Richard Head.

Paul Johnson (the dentist guy from Co.Durham, who subsequently got done for horse neglect/cruelty)
Ellmarie Holden has largely disappeared too (though still has the odd runner) and Mick Winters only seldom seen on a racecard as well.

Perhaps the Captain changed his Name ?

paulo47 29 Mar 25 09:22 
Peter Winkworth

good timing, had a winner at Kempton as an owner - Glittering Surf

This thread goes back to 2011, I've just looked through it all and surprisingly nobody has ever mentioned Jenny Pitman, so putting that right. Yes she's a retiree, but so are many others shown.

Once out of the game, they're largely forgotten it seems.

Mark Pitman,then....

Tim Thompson Jones started off brightly as trainer and then suddenly disappeared.
K Stone I think remember had nags in his stable called Qualitair this and Qualitair that.

Mike O'Neill who trained Ayr Gold Cup winner Joveworth in 1989. Jimmy Fortune used to ride for him.

Harry Fry

Ken Payne a shocking ommision. King of the Sellers and loved running his nags in Scotland. A true character of racing in seventies. Situation lodged well in my memory banks. Got a brand new Capri thanks to that grand old horse!

... Bloody Yank spellchecker lol. KITHAIRON not Situation!

Graeme McCourt and assistant Tom Morgan pulled the plug, I seemed to recall the finances weren't working.

If you are of an age, you may remember Gardie Grissell, who retired in 2003, then handed over to David Feek his son in law, who then moved to Australia, so Gardie came back again, but now his wife Di has the licence.  Gardie is still very active in the business.
Their best horse was Royal Stag who finished 2nd in the Queen Mother Champion Chase, when Barnbrook Again won it.

Their stable is at Brightling Park, East Sussex, which is a nice place to visit, of itself.

Paul Burgoyne.

Smoky , had a horse with Gardie and just lived round the corner . Rode my horse up his woodland ascending gallop a few times , luckily it got steeper at the top . He and Di were charming and had a fabulous marquee open day , Its a glorious part of the world and you can see the sea from his gallops . I saw Di had a runner at Fontwell this year . Our horse Jack Fuller was moderate but won 4 races and named after local Hostelry and MP ' Mad Jack Fuller ' .

paulo47
Oh wow, that's great.. I don't remember your horse at all unfortunately, but we saw old mad Jack Fuller's follies that he built, so we picked up on that a bit.
glad you had a good time there, and yes it's a lovely place to be, I remember walking around the area.  I can't say we were local but not too far away in Eastbourne, so Dunlop's, Gifford's, George Moore - within easy reach..

My friend Richard Ford .............once such a promising trainer ....  messed up his career chasing after stable girls ........he"s now transporting horses all around the globe...

Brian Bough, Kicked out of his yard by his Landlord, then just faded away.

Tom Keddy
Anna Newton-Smith
Gerald Ham (met one of his relatives descending from Haystacks)

Bob Brazington.  Jimsintime, Jimbalou, Jimnastics, Taxi Lad, Aioli.

Delyth Thomas a shocking omission....

There were a few Welsh trainers that emerged on the coattails of Evan Williams and Tim Vaughan. They seemed to enjoy a lot of success initially (attracting some cynicism) before things quietened down and they seemed to disappear. The recently-returned Alison Thorpe and Keith Goldsworthy are two who come to mind, but I think there were a few others.

Steve Gollings seemed to disappear almost overnight. I think his main/only owner pulled all of his horses out of the yard, but I could be wrong.

Fred Kirby is a small NH trainer that I can recall from around 15-20 years ago. Allan Dickman on the flat.

Not disappeared but Peter Chapple-Hyam..... I can't work out why he doesn't get more and better horses. Very talented trainer with a decent strike rate. You don't win a couple of Derby's if you don't know what you're doing!

Flemming,trained for Rough Quest's ownwer.