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Wiggi
30 Mar 11 17:52
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I've always wondered, when a horse drops out of a race, why does betfair drop your odds on any bets you already have confirmed at the time.

It just happened to me at Catterick, i had a confirmed bet on Misty Morn at odds of 17, Irish Boy then dropped out & my odds dropped to 14.92, where do these odds/money go to, are the odds changed for the layer too? & why? it's a confirmed bet between 2 people, surely it should stand as it is & not change.

Can anyone enlighten me? (who's got my extra winnings that i should have had!? lol)

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By:
topfarrier
When: 30 Mar 11 17:56
The people who have back the non runner get their stake back hence the alteration.hth
By:
timeless
When: 30 Mar 11 17:58
they don't want you to win
By:
Wiggi
When: 30 Mar 11 18:07
but how does the people getting their stake back from the non runner affect the odds of a completely different horse? the stake to be returned back is between the two patties of that bet, nothing to do with my bet on a different horse, doesn't make any sense to me :-/ lol
By:
StevieGeeInDHouse
When: 30 Mar 11 18:08
foydc
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timeless
When: 30 Mar 11 18:09
to simplify,

say you get 10/1 on a horse and there is a 1/3 fav in the race,

say the fav gets withdrawn, would you still be expecting to be on at 10/1 ?!
By:
topfarrier
When: 30 Mar 11 18:16
Any market tries to operate as close as possible to a 100% overround any non runner obviously affects this so the market has to adjust.
By:
Wiggi
When: 30 Mar 11 18:18
yes i bloody well would! lol, wouldn't you? ... it wouldn't happen at a normal bookies, if i agree a proce i get that price, so it still doesn't explain why it happens on here.
By:
longbridge
When: 30 Mar 11 18:21
really Wiggi?  if you know of a bookie who doesn't apply Rule 4 deductions, let us all know which one.
By:
Orchardist
When: 30 Mar 11 18:26
hope you're either joking or fishing Wiggi
By:
Mr. Memory
When: 30 Mar 11 18:29
This forum should be renamed "Pratts Corner"
By:
Cinema
When: 30 Mar 11 18:48
Where do they come from?I am stunned.
By:
timeless
When: 30 Mar 11 18:50
Orchardist

if I thought he was fishing, I wouldn't off bothered,

remember we all had to start somewhere and he very likely doesn't know what a R4 is !
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 30 Mar 11 18:50
CryCryCry
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Orchardist
When: 30 Mar 11 18:56
timeless  well he does now !
By:
dananza.
When: 30 Mar 11 19:03
its not the fact he doesnt understand the R4 rule that shocks me, its the fact that he thinks the horse still has the exact same chance of winning when theres withdrawals, hence the odds. Laugh
By:
Wiggi
When: 30 Mar 11 19:04
My mate Dave, he operates from the back right hand table at the Horsse & Hound, he's best bookie EVER! ;) lol

No, actually i was being serious, i know very little horse racing rules, i didn't think that happened at normal bookmakers! :( ... stupid Rule 4 deductions, just cost me 104 squid!

Cheers peeps. x
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