RELAYMAN A BIG CON...................

Yes it has, but thats what we try not to happen on our forum.
And we have a relaybin were exposed scams are in there so punters do not pay for scam info.
we are the good guys and it is free.  There is a VIP site were you can pay to join but thats because it has one of our members in it who is very decent and we negotiated with some good tipping firms and they are on board.
its a nice place to hang out and one bit of abuse and you get banned.

ufortunately you can no longer get in as we have closed the doors, makes no odds to us as it free.

Having read this thread I think you should keep away from this relay site.

As Lammtarra states one member on Relayman posted tips and they were top quality....I got 3 winners at 16,s 7,s and 6,s....all free!

steamship, no one needs to avoid, doors are closed 500 good members, no more trouble makers.

doors closed

who was that tambo

Lammy get ready for a barrage of complaints and
demands for refunds when your mugs find out you
have been relaying relay agents. Then you have
the balls to ask people to pay you a fifty to help
with the costs of paying the tipsters direct.

The trading standards boys love conmen like you.
No doubt they will want a word. It's bad enough
ripping off tipsters but not even paying for them
direct and passing on rubbish is unforgivable.

You said earlier that the thread would be pulled
and people would be banned !! What happened ?
believe me you have not heard the last of this.
You will hounded on here for a long time,

Relaymen who plagiarise tipsters, are being plagiarised by another layer of relaymen ? Christ!! I'ts a jungle out there.

Think it is about time all the whingers on here got a life!
I bet one particular tipster relayed free by RM and had a nice 6/1 winner backed into 4/1 won about 8 lengths so someone was in the know with the selection.

Relayman is a FREE site that gives advice, does not tell you what to put your whisky vouchers on and has a forum for the people to share views and opinions and occasionally differences of opinions!

If anyone does not like the site they are free to leave but i hope the site continues and gets better now some of the dregs have been eliminated!

ps: thanks for the bogus 6/1 winner today

lammtarra1 Joined: 13 Oct 10
Replies: 20 06 Nov 10 18:52   


Stafordman, your wee pooor older guy woul dhabve had 3 winner out of 4 today...lol
also the relayman has now closed doors to new members.
You see its free and we dont need any more riff raff like you twats into the site.
You have posted another threas i some campaign and swear and give abuse.  You ar all a total joke and if you put your energy into form reading might pick a winner or to.  Its not even clever , its brainless, typical teenage boy stuff.

feel free to retaliate with a tirade of abuse......the real members no the score.  Good luck Conor if thei is your future hideout.

stratford man, who's the right people?, the dodgy tip brigade...lol

Are you just think lammtarra or has it not registered?

The fact the bogus bets won today counts for nothing, the fact of the matter is, you are giving out bets via your site claiming them to be the real thing, which they are not. People are then putting their hard earned money down. Whether they win or not is not the point.

Trading standards will be informed on monday first thing you vile conman.

As for your forum, you yourself are behind most of the posts along with your 'cosy' group.

Trading standards will be informed what a baby ... , do you seriously think that trading standards are going to entertain a childish baby like you what an absolute pillock you are put your dummy back in Conor grow up, get a fkin life  you ****.

saddo still here, been here all day this poor saddo, this pooguy  is here everyday of the week very sad commenting on every forum the guy has no life other that to post on here hence his name saddo... the biggest self opinionated knob on this site , get a life you saddo , open your front door and get out a bit more, you will soon become a better person and not such a vindictive sad o , I hope I have helped your plight my friend....Members please help poor saddo he appears on every Forue allmtimes of night and day, give this knob a life, every night he is a poor sad twt that needs to get a live, let him understand that he has a front door that can be opened, a breath of fresh air in his saddo world,  please post some advice for this poor plonker

i bet that **** saddo is still on here 100/1

stafordman who are you, why not reveal yourself , its Conor again we guess, is it not ? a couple of accounts registered ??

Now lets talk about you, and what your are saying, this 75 year old guy that cuts and pastes tips..... this trading standards issue, on Monday. I am goinf to tell miss, I have my hand up first , please be me me me , ..what the fk are you on, why oh why are you making yourself look like the biggest dickhead on this forum , (apart from saddo of course, who by far is) you must surely have a little bit of intelligence to know and understand that there are not many laws that are in force against tips being given out, do yourself a favour and get yourself a life my friend, there are more enjoyable things than being one of lifes plonkers..fk off and find them.
.

usbetter
you must surely have a little bit of intelligence to know and understand that there are not many laws that are in force against tips being given out,

website claims made online change for the first time in march and all dodgy misleading websites will be swept away by the asa and the one with the clout is the office of fair trading who can close them down and prosecute them. its about time all these websites came under new laws, so the days of misleading websites are nearing an end

i was given a free trial and posted on relayman 11.3 winner.how is that not helping some one?

know all .......not this time we are talking about betting tips you idiot , misleading get a life , every site that gives a wrong tip, I am not being funny here but are you educated ? do you really understand law, is the oft going to intervene every time a tipster is wrong, come on I cannot believe the crap on here, for gods sake there must be some intelligence on this forum somewhere ....surely

Urbitter, usbetter.

Stratforman are you from relayline... your comments are totally untrue the site is brill whats your agenda

ROFFL

I see the rogue trader was on here!![;)]

Relayman is a scam , official ,

Colin Davey ffs

I will keep bumping this thread.

Scamming scum,Brimardon smashed on here,this scum will also be destroyed.[>o][>o]

They dont last long with the boys.nap[;)]

OP worry ye not any longer,these scum are history.

Brimardon tried and failed to peddle their shyte on here.

Offered a deal at £600k with tie ins to benefit a couple of charities,met and they **** themselves when exposed.

No money,no credibility.A tattooed mong turned up and started talking all military,no racing or betting for about an hour.
Turned out his son went to boxing classes at the Royal Sigs in Harrogate.

This shower might think they are clever,WRONG NUMB NUTS.

You are going the same way as Brimardon,only difference,no offer,no negotiation,NO SALE.


NO LAW,you chose the rules.YOU ARE FINISHED BY YOUR RULES.

Capito? Vaffanculo,figlio di putani.

If we hear of even just one other person ripped off by you,finito.NAP[>o][>o][;)]

Well said rsc, this shower of c onmen need destroying. [>o]

Relayman £7.99 and £27.99 for relaying selections

I hear he maybe getting sued soon by some of the tipsters for intellectual copyright or something.

Relay
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The Stable mole said this on Hamilton this morning:

Hamilton


3.10 Smart Step strong word for.                WON 11/4


3.40 Secrecy has conditions “ideal” and expected, little value now a three runner race.                                     BEATEN BY A NECK !


 

4.10 Botham, our selection last time out when we had a very good word , now dropped in class its not good enough value for us at 2/1 but the horse is fit and well and fully expected to do this today. Baby Driver is each way value at 8/1.          BOTHAM WON 9/4


 

5.10 Epic, said to be working well and being pulled up last time out was a surprise, hopes today that this will be put right.
                                                               WON 7/1


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There is no restriction on the use of the english language and posting of horseracing selections, if there was relay sites would have ceased years ago.

Relayline, Newbury, Castle, Goldline, Relayking are relay sites along with Relayman and to the best of my knowledge none have been sued as they have not committed any offence.

Oh look! here they come, one by one! [;)] [;)]

whiskyvoucher joins today to post that ...


also interesting forum name and funny how previous poster on this thread used the rarely seen 'whisky voucher' wording ....



ivorknackerov 06 Nov 10 22:14
Think it is about time all the whingers on here got a life!
I bet one particular tipster relayed free by RM and had a nice 6/1 winner backed into 4/1 won about 8 lengths so someone was in the know with the selection.

Relayman is a FREE site that gives advice, does not tell you what to put your whisky vouchers on and has a forum for the people to share views and opinions and occasionally differences of opinions!

If anyone does not like the site they are free to leave but i hope the site continues and gets better now some of the dregs have been eliminated!

ps: thanks for the bogus 6/1 winner today

It never fails on this forum, as soon as these charlatans are ridiculed, 'joined today'

posters appear to defend the indefensible. 

Yes i am the same person but unfortunately BF insisted i change my username so i chose whisky voucher, i have not just joined, ok thats that out of the way.

All the professional whingers do not have to join Relayman or any other relay service, but for what Relayman charges compared to other relay sites i think it is excellent value for money and does what it says and relays tipsters who charge up to £2k a year for less than £8 a month.

Read the tips and back them from whoever you consider worthwhile and leave the others or you could even join the tipsters direct and pay there full subscription price, turned out nice again after all......

lammtarra1
06 Nov 10 19:52

You see its free and we dont need any more riff raff like you twats into the site.


Hmmm, seem like nice guys...count me in [smiley:crazy]

The sites who charge members to get relayed selections are the ones in trouble

surely relaying is theft.....they either sign up to a service and then pass on the data for profit or entice people to sign up to tipping services on the premise that they will then be given free tips from other services for passing on their purchased information - this is how Newbury Racing works...

Of bigger concern for this particular site (Relayman) is that they claim to have inside information and charge on that basis for inside information from the following yards...

Michael Bell
Henry Cecil
John Dunplop
Tom Dascombe
Michael Stoute
John Gosden

"and many more"

Now one suspects they merely trawl the individual websites of those owners and claim it as "inside information" in which case they are breaking Advertising Standards Authority guidelines.

In the interests of fairness therefore the Advertising Standards Authority have been informed about the claims of inside information and charges as have those trainers listed as providing it.....

If the ASA and the Trainers confirm that this is wholly legitimate then it will surely get in to the public domain - if not....then expect a hefty fine for breaking Advertising Guidelines...

Relayline, Newbury, Castle, Goldline, Relayking are some relay services that spring to mind and the facts are that some of them have been going many many years so there is no law preventing these sites from operating or they would have been closed down years ago.

If it was illegal then this site would have been closed down as almost daily members are relaying PW and/or PW extra from the racing post.

It is not illegal to take tips from newspapers or websites such as PW or PW extra.....of greater ambiguity and certainly of more interest to the ASA will be the fragrant theft of information from the likes of Mark Holder and Peter Naughton then sold on for PROFIT.....

There is nothing illegal in anyone coming on here and say "Peter Naughton tips.......xyz today".....

What is illegal in the eyes of the ASA is fo someone to obtain that information purely for means of business profit by selling it on without the express permission of the instigator of the information and I am aware of a number of tipping services including those named taking High Court action against various so called Relay-services that may well result in highly expensive fines and charges being levied....

3 very high profile tipsters have got together to bring action against one relay service in the new year to make an example.Apparently it is all based on the fact like the above 'providing a service for profit'that involves intellectual copyright.

whiskyvoucher - there has, in fact, been a court case and the relay agent was totally exonerated.

As you will see from my username rscaughtboy is nothing more than a worthless stalker - I can assure you that you do not need to take a single word that he says seriously.

I would be very surprised if any tipster was to bring about a successful prosecution of a relay service, some may have tried and failed and will be lumbered with a huge legal bill, this will be enough to ensure they do not attempt prosecutions.

The main culprits for relaying tipsters selections are other tipsters who claim they are there own tips.

Here are my top tips today, please feel free to follow or ignore:

2.00 Uprise - win bet

2.10 Gabriel the Great - win bet

5.10 Miss Topsy Turvy - win bet

uprise ran in one of the worst maidins all year and this mug puts it in his TOP tips!!!!!!!!!!!!! lordie, oh lordie

Precedent already set GORRIE V NICHOLSON, judge ruled there
was no copyright on tips but it may be a different ballgame
when the relay agent is giving out ficticious tips as relayman
is doing.

ok mate no problems @ 5/1 i thought it was a bit of value, i just posted them as i thought a few members might share my views that they have a chance, lordie tra la la lordie.

ps: please do not waste your money then and leave my bets alone

True mate there are no copyright laws on tipping horses:

Alex Gorrie's top tips today:

3.35 ihsas 0.4 win
7.40 spunky 0.5 win

also a 0.1 double

That was the case I meant - thank you.

there is copyright in claiming these are x services tips, nicho won nothing, clive holt established copyright in the high court before lord blacker de monte on his published system

Getting brave Fraudboy? Defending conmen is probably no surprise to the forum given your previous.

Unlike you I abhor the thought of anyone being ripped off.Only a few years since I was the best tipping service ever seen in the UK,doing it in my spare time whilst still in the mob.

All changed when they tried to do the same as the Winning Line did to Dave Nevison i.e tips every day,keeping people on the line for ever.

Much money offered and refused,my info was such a shaming success your amateurs at the RP had a 24/7 lookout to take down posts.All free of course and the success continues,free of charge.

Already smashed one outfit,any others ripping off old folks or anyone for that matter will get the same treatment.No need for law courts btw.[;)][:(]

You are either brave or stupid Fraudy,the latter imo.[;)]

Relaying does have its place within the sport but as with most things in life, those running them are only as good and have as much integrity as the people doing the relaying.

If I wanted to subscribe to a tipster but felt the charges were too high, then going via a relaying operator at a reasonable price seems to me to be little different to roping in a few mates to split the cost and then sharing the info between us all. Where things start to get a bit murky is if the relay agent charges an unreasonable price in relation to what they pay to subscribe themselves and also if there are doubts about the validity of the selections they are passing on.

For example if a tipsters charges £250 for the year for tips then the relay agent only needs 25 punters at £10 a pop to cover the cost of that. Fair enough they will have other expenses too like admin costs, phone calls and so on and they obviously want to pay themselves a wage and make a living out of it all too. No doubt there will be times when, they get many more than the 25 punters required or some will ask for a larger fee from punters than they should but I suppose it all boils down to what they do with the extra money coming in really.

As for intellectual copyright, that's a non starter as the original tipsters don't actually own anything anyway.

Lammtara if studying form was the be all and end all most on here would be millionaires,form in black type races possibly but for the rest very iffy.

What they don't tell you on relayman is relaywise is over 100pts down busted many banks and results now been taken off the website. M Bell info is loads of crap copy and written diffrent off the bell website.

URS having a mare avoid it like the plague

Here are my top tips today, please feel free to follow or ignore:

2.00 Uprise - win bet lost

2.10 Gabriel the Great - win bet lost

5.10 Miss Topsy Turvy - win bet w/d

Err....thanks

Hi Chelsea Girl, do not back these but i am.

3.10 qannaas 5/2
4.20 high bird humphrey 5/1
8.10 katies tuitor 13/2

Good luck to all lets hope for a profitable day!

to be fair I have on occasion used this service and a couple of weeks ago they had a blinder at ayr !
magical macy  Won @ 25/1 and mayoman to place @ 18/1
the the same day they had Coolminx win @ 20/1 and silke top at 11/10.
Then at the weekend they had jeu de viver at 11/1 and a number of others around the 6 - 10/1 mark.

been checking them on and off since and they put up a 22/1 winner a couple of days ago ..think it was called marketpuzzle ..utterly friendless in the market and not tipped anywhere ?


Now I subscribe to plenty of services and tipsters etc and these horses and the ones I have recieved since have NOT been put up by anyone else that I have seen ?

This that know me on here are awarethat I am primarily a layer and I often use the tip lines to see which horses will be overbet and therefore no value etc. But to be fair not everyone is a shyster.

You certainly cannot put this lot in the same boat as Brimardon !!!!!

The whole point though Wolber is that they ARE NOT Relayman tips....they are someone elses that RELAYMAN charge you for under false pretences....

Thats the FRAUD that relayers perpetrate...

The BIGGER fraud of this site is the GOLD service which CLAIMS to have inside information from trainers which is simply "in the public domain free at the point of source blog info" packaged up as Insie information and sold on at considerable cost...

It is that part of this charade that the ADVERTISING STANDARDS AUTHORITY are investigating....

If it was put up as "information gleaned from trainers" and NOT charged for......like some relay/information sites do - like Herbie Fogg and Matt Bisnorgo then that would be fine and dandy...but this method of charging for free information is mis-representation that will land this service with a hefty fine at best and huge charges at worst....

newbury £300 per year, tips only

relayline £40 per month, tips only

relayman £7.99 per month, tips, customer service, stable e-mails, friendly forum


I will let people decide for themselves who are the charletons?

so they are basically co alating a load of premium info and adding it to their own sources and form study and charging people 29 quid amonth ? is that the set up .
  Not sure about the legals but that sounds like a f**ckin bargain to me ! ,.. and no I am not bigging them up , but info is key in this game as we all know.
   I must admit I have a bigger issue with c00nts selling my phone number and email addy on to ****s like the guy who has just text me asking me to ring some number at £1.50 a minute !!I get about 10 a day and its driving me insane

WOLBER...

As evidenced on here though some of the info they pass on as "premium rate service info from "fred bloggs".....ISN'T what FRED Bloggs is tipping up!

Furthermore they are charging for GOLD service and simply cutting and pasting info directly from Trainers websites!....

If you want to join a FREE Forum there are hundreds.....some have perfectly good "amateur" tipsters on...who charge NOWT......others will pass on stuff from Tipsters they use - again for nowt..... that is being fair and ethical...

What isnt fair or ethical or 100% legal under the new ASA guidelines is shisters like this proporting to have information that isnt information but made up tips sold as someone elses when it isnt...

There are a lot of gullible people out there falling for this....

AND YEP...these cretins also sell on your info and you get bombarded....how do I know - I subscribed to relayman for a month and cross checked his data....60% WAS MADE UP.....all of the Gold information took 10 mins to source FREE OF CHARGE.....and the Forum....well if you can call a Forum a Forum with less than 10 active members of whom 5 were clearly the same guy....then you carry on mate....call it a Forum....

As for customer service......sending an email with 30 tips on it 5 minutes before the first race aint what I call customer service.....neither is 20 of them being newspaper naps at odds on or evens....

BUYER BEWARE!

Shirley not Fraudboy?

Shy Ting
Noble Locks


Message received?

[;)]

Hi Chelsea Girl, do not back these but i am.

3.10 qannaas 5/2 lost
4.20 high bird humphrey 5/1 lost
8.10 katies tuitor 13/2 lost

Good luck to all lets hope for a profitable day!

More top bombing, I take it there really lays! [;)]

For the price of a couple of pints a month it is worth it even if some is copied and pasted as it would save me time.

a few for chelsea girl to lay, i have backed these today.

3.15 fountains flypast 3/1
5.45 napa 7/1

good luck all

The Truth will set you free

BRIMARDON

Fontwell 17:00

Orion Star 2 points win


Fontwell 17:00

Call At Midnight 1 point win

MARK HOLDEN

Fontwell Park 15:15

Bathwick Man  0.25 point each way

TIMEFORM JURY

Fontwell 17:00

Merry Terry 1 point win


Ascot 17:15

King Ferdinand 1 point win

PRICEWISE EXTRA

Wolverhampton 17:45

Commander Wish 1 point each way

Font 5-00  3 different selections, sums it all up.

Then selections gratefully posted by greg gory are not off the relayman site as mark holder bets are not posted there, neither are brimardon.

I fully understand your latest comment chelsea girl and for many years have come across people with similar negative attitiudes as yourself who are prepared to attack everything without any thought but just one point: Relayman and other relay services such as newbury, relayline, goldline and castle do not provide tips but merely pass on tips by 'professionals' hence the reason for multi tips in the same race, the clue is in the name relayman =  a provider of tips from professional tipsters'.

hope members had a profitable day.

is onthefence not sniffing around this one?

cracking laying system

I know john from otthefence and he seems to have a decent service but i do not think he has any input into relayman.

greg gory, it just goes to prove what i have known for years and that is that the vast majority of 'professional' tipsters are absolute crap and most do no more than buy a paper and pick there selections five minutes before they post them, sad but true im afraid, just check there history from a reputable proffing site.

fortunately there are a few genuine profitable services that do operate just finding them is the hardest part!

are u sure thats the truth??????

no mate i am not sure.

Having had dealings with this Relayman crowd in the past I can confirm that everything in the worcesterwilly post at 1405 is absolutely correct. They are very naughty people and the sooner the authorities whether it be racing people or police type people crack down on them the better.

whisky............I have spent a lifetime laying horses from all and sundry, so called professionals included.

I'm not interested if their profitable or not, I treat them all the same,you included.

The hardest part is beating the under round, with a 100% book.

I could have sworn that I was informed he was.Perhaps I should go to hidden hearing as I could swear I was informed he had a thread on there

site i got those from also cover these plus more when available

Brimardon System


Mark Holder


The Stable Mole


Highflyers Racing


Dallas Racing


Timeform The Jury

Pricewise Extra

Yard Insider

From The Stable

these tipping lines or whatever must bring in some good reddies and any joe soap that has more than 2 winners in a month is attempting one

Anybody wasting their hard earned subscribing to any of this rubbish need taking in hand. [>o]

get rich schemes are always popular.Look how quick the pyramid schemes took off.There are marketing men in the US who make 10 mill easily a yr from bullsh!ting on get rich webex's or from writting books

chelsea girl i am not or do not claim to be a tipster, i just posted a few bets that where all well backed i think so ideal for me to make money trading, you have spent a lifetime laying horses? i did not think exchanges where around that long!! unless you are betting underage.

The good thing is for me though i can back professional tipster selections as they are almost always well punted then trade back to lock in a profit, professional tipsters do have there uses sometimes.

are you a member of relayman whiskey?

yes mate a paying member, find it worth the money even just to get some well known tipsters selections to trade on here, and of course back the decent tipsters selections as i see fit.

I am unaware of a thread from onthefence if there is one, one the copy/paste from greg gory is not from the relayman site i can assure you.

whiskey.....Locking in a profit is fine if the subscriber is aware thats the name of the game.

Unfortunately there are many naive punters out there who would not have a clue.

By the way, I used to own 2 betting shops in the 1980's hence the 'lifetime' term, g/luck.

you a member long?

it has only been going about 15/16 months, think i have been a member since about august last year mate.

no whisky mine are not from relayman,but its a free site and wouldnt post the link on here.

lots of good people on here but lots of lurking spoilers too.

and you didnt notice the onthefence thread even though its 100% there.

specsavers needed imo

no never noticed mate, unless you mean a thread from last nh season when john gave us his insight free of charge for a couple of months. i must admit i do not always check the forum posts so may have missed.

greg gory i know the site you copy/pasted from i am a member on there.

oh god your falling over yourself.

good luck with your venture.

market is 1.2 that your connected to the site and harry is lumping on

The only genuine tipster on here or on any site is gt [;)] hth

enlighten me irish how i am falling over myself?

i am not connected to relayman in any way, just a member as i am on several forums, what venture do you mean i am confused!

you went from not knowing to knowing for exactly how long and exactly what the topic of the thread was. Strange.

I couldnt be ar$sed carrying on.Enjoy your charade newbie.

irish, i thought you where on about a recent onthefence thread not one from last nh season, i am not a newbie it just appears that i am as bf requested i change my username, i have been a member for many years.

Maybe i will not post any more on this thread as it is becoming tiresome reading the negativity of people such as yourself and is getting off the point of this thread.

I will end by saying any member who thinks relayman is a con then please do not join or indeed do not join any forum you think is a con.

end of chat!

whiskyvoucher     30 Sep 11 17:35 


sad but true im afraid, just check there history from a reputable proffing site.

What reputable proofing sites, would you recommend?

the vicker....

the racing post proof but dont publicise their proofings...they are merely for their own adverts

the biggest independent proofing site is racing index - www.racing-index.co.uk

the next biggest is tipping league - www.tippingleague.co.uk

another site that proofs but tends to be used more by members using it for competition is www.gg.com

there are other proofing sites but they appear to be more marketing based sites with very few tipsters proofing to them...racing index proofs for maybe 1000 and tipping league at one time several hundred...

how "independent" they are is a bone of contention but it is a fact that on racing index and tipping league you have to proof tips prior to racing.....

Whiskey,how about a head to head over say 6 months?

You post all the relay **** and I post molerats info?

Has to be a forfeit so would you like a meeting like the one Brimardon arranged?
Btw that was nothing to do with molerat,it was to do with a poxy £600k which they dont have.Throw into this,lads from Napoli who will mark your card well.

Over to you?[;)]

worcesterwilly   

Thanks for the info.

rsc..........dont hold your breath, could be a long wait.

Read all the posts with interest.  I am involved in the RM site and although 'relays' 'tipsters' seem to be frowned upon in most forums certainly this forum there are people out there that pay £X amount of cash to service that really aren't that good.  Good PR and false claims and people pay and think they can make thousands backing the tipsters selections.

Whether you think what RM does is crap, against the law, or whatever your opinion is  people have a choice to join or not.  Those that have joined very rarely leave so they must be doing something correct.  Amongst the many tipsters there are a few that do show a profit year after year.

The stable information is genuine and in terms of legalities its not against the law to relay tipsters - fact
and theres nothing wrong with saying we have an insider at X stable and this is his views........

The stable information is NOT copied and pasted from the trainer websites - fact

Like i say its not for everyone but for a few sheckles a month and those that dont have time to study its no different form buying a racing post each day.

Read all the posts with interest.  I am involved in the RM site and although 'relays' 'tipsters' seem to be frowned upon in most forums certainly this forum there are people out there that pay £X amount of cash to service that really aren't that good.  Good PR and false claims and people pay and think they can make thousands backing the tipsters selections.

Whether you think what RM does is crap, against the law, or whatever your opinion is  people have a choice to join or not.  Those that have joined very rarely leave so they must be doing something correct.  Amongst the many tipsters there are a few that do show a profit year after year.

The stable information is genuine and in terms of legalities its not against the law to relay tipsters - fact
and theres nothing wrong with saying we have an insider at X stable and this is his views........

The stable information is NOT copied and pasted from the trainer websites - fact

Like i say its not for everyone but for a few sheckles a month and those that dont have time to study its no different form buying a racing post each day.

whiskyvoucher


Ignore irish are lucky . . . totally clueless no mark.

private h pile

I have ignored him mate, it is not my intention to get into petty squabbles with semi obtuse people like irish, and a nutmeg like rscaughtboy who cannot even spell whisky and of course not forgetting chelsea girl who has been laying horses all his/her life even before the advent of betting exchanges and is only interested in slagging something off he/she knows nothing about.

It is a shame that a lot of members are only interested in attempting to sabotage people's websites such as relayman (which i am a member and have no financial interest in) when maybe they should view these things with an open mind and maybe agree that £7.99 a month is not such a bad deal and in my opinion worth the cost for the several tipsters who have stood the test of time, and i find there selections useful when placing my daily wagers.

But everyone to there own devices, i will stick to what has served me well for many years.

wv . . . .


I have no opinion on other posters i find them ok. In fact Chelsea girl has a crush on me

But i tell you know mate i a l is bad bad news so clueless he is dangerous  . . . A little knowledge . . . . .