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1. Dr Vincent O'Brien
2. Dr Dermot Weld
3. Dr John Oxx
4. Aidan O'Brien
5. Barney Curley (nap)
6. Tom Dreaper
7. Jessica Harrington
8. Tommy Stack
9. Tony Martin (nb)
10.that bloke wot trains them NH flat horses year in year out
And an honourary mention must go to the great Tom Costello, ta.
2. Dr Dermot Weld
3. Dr John Oxx
4. Aidan O'Brien
5. Barney Curley (nap)
6. Tom Dreaper
7. Jessica Harrington
8. Tommy Stack
9. Tony Martin (nb)
10.that bloke wot trains them NH flat horses year in year out
And an honourary mention must go to the great Tom Costello, ta.
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Willie Mullins is that bloke that trains NH flat winners.
You've forgotten Paddy[Darkie] Prendergast! second only to Vincent.
Prendergast wasn't even as good as Edward O'Grady and he didn't make the list !
Upon what criteria has this list been compiled, please?
Prize money won?
Number of winners?
Group / Grade 1 wins?
Your personal finances?
Prize money won?
Number of winners?
Group / Grade 1 wins?
Your personal finances?
It's based upon ability shown as a trainer of a racehorse on a racetrack over a number of years !
foxy top 29 Aug 10 13:24
Prendergast wasn't even as good as Edward O'Grady and he didn't make the list !
Prendergast wasn't even as good as Edward O'Grady and he didn't make the list !
Edward O'Grady - the most successful Irish trainer ever at the Cheltenham festival.
Well played on putting Tony Martin ahead of him!
Well played on putting Tony Martin ahead of him!
If we have Paddy we will have to have Dan Moore..
topfarrier1 Joined: 01 Jul 10
Replies: 77 29 Aug 10 13:23
You've forgotten Paddy[Darkie] Prendergast! second only to Vincent.
Never a truer word wrote on here
Replies: 77 29 Aug 10 13:23
You've forgotten Paddy[Darkie] Prendergast! second only to Vincent.
Never a truer word wrote on here
foxy top Joined: 26 Nov 07
Replies: 3532 29 Aug 10 13:24
Prendergast wasn't even as good as Edward O'Grady and he didn't make the list !
WTF! You need to learn about your history of Irish racing
Replies: 3532 29 Aug 10 13:24
Prendergast wasn't even as good as Edward O'Grady and he didn't make the list !
WTF! You need to learn about your history of Irish racing
Quick bio for you Foxy
PADDY Prendergast - more popularly known as "Darkie" - was the first trainer to bring Ireland into the international arena and apart from Vincent O'Brien contributed more than any other in establishing the country as a major racing power. Took out a trainer's licence in 1940 and his handling of precocious two-year-olds was supreme.
His first training success in England came in that division with subsequent Royal Ascot winner Port Blanc at Goodwood (1945). Windy City, his fastest two-year-old, headed the Free Handicaps in Ireland, England and France (1950) before his departure to America. Other exceptional juveniles to blaze their way to glory both at home and abroad were La Tendresse, Floribunda, Noblesse (who never ran in Ireland), Sixpence, Gold Cup, The Pie King and Paddy's Sister. His record in the top two-year-old races in England was exceptional, winning the Gimcrack (York) four times, the Champagne Stakes (Doncaster) five times and the Coventry Stakes (Royal Ascot) six times.
Saddled 17 Irish Classic winners, putting him joint third on the all-time list. The role of honour reads: five 1,000 Guineas (Princess Trudy 1950 - his first - Gazpacho 1963, Wenduyne 1969, Sarah Siddons 1976 and More So 1978); four 2,000 Guineas (Kythnos 1960, Linacre 1963, Ballymore 1972 and Nikoli 1980); four Derbys (Dark Warrior 1950, Thirteen of Diamonds 1952, Ragusa 1963 and Meadow Court 1965); one Oaks (Five Spots 1952); three St Legers (Arctic Vale 1962, Christmas Island 1963 and Mistigri 1974). Martial (1960 2,000 Guineas) was his first winner in an English Classic, followed by Noblesse (1963 Oaks); Ragusa (1963 St Leger) and Pourparler (1964 1,000 Guineas).
Thanks to Ragusa (who also won the King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth Diamond and the Great Voltigeur Stakes), Noblesse and Khalkis (winner of the Eclipse), he became the first Irish-based trainer to be crowned champion in England in 1963, a feat he repeated in 1964 (Ragusa winning the Eclipse, Linacre the Queen Elizabeth 11 Stakes and Hardicanute the Timeform Gold Cup) and 1965 (Meadow Court landing the King George, after finishing second to the great Sea-Bird in the Epsom Derby, and Carlemont the Sussex Stakes).
Was banned (1952) for nearly a year by the Jockey Club stewards - a decision not rubber-stamped by their Irish counterparts - from running horses in England following an inquiry into the running of Blue Sail at Ascot. It was lifted in time for him to launch a blitz on his favourite York meeting which yielded four winners (including Blue Sail) from five runners.
The winner of 22 races at Royal Ascot, he died on June 20th, 1980
PADDY Prendergast - more popularly known as "Darkie" - was the first trainer to bring Ireland into the international arena and apart from Vincent O'Brien contributed more than any other in establishing the country as a major racing power. Took out a trainer's licence in 1940 and his handling of precocious two-year-olds was supreme.
His first training success in England came in that division with subsequent Royal Ascot winner Port Blanc at Goodwood (1945). Windy City, his fastest two-year-old, headed the Free Handicaps in Ireland, England and France (1950) before his departure to America. Other exceptional juveniles to blaze their way to glory both at home and abroad were La Tendresse, Floribunda, Noblesse (who never ran in Ireland), Sixpence, Gold Cup, The Pie King and Paddy's Sister. His record in the top two-year-old races in England was exceptional, winning the Gimcrack (York) four times, the Champagne Stakes (Doncaster) five times and the Coventry Stakes (Royal Ascot) six times.
Saddled 17 Irish Classic winners, putting him joint third on the all-time list. The role of honour reads: five 1,000 Guineas (Princess Trudy 1950 - his first - Gazpacho 1963, Wenduyne 1969, Sarah Siddons 1976 and More So 1978); four 2,000 Guineas (Kythnos 1960, Linacre 1963, Ballymore 1972 and Nikoli 1980); four Derbys (Dark Warrior 1950, Thirteen of Diamonds 1952, Ragusa 1963 and Meadow Court 1965); one Oaks (Five Spots 1952); three St Legers (Arctic Vale 1962, Christmas Island 1963 and Mistigri 1974). Martial (1960 2,000 Guineas) was his first winner in an English Classic, followed by Noblesse (1963 Oaks); Ragusa (1963 St Leger) and Pourparler (1964 1,000 Guineas).
Thanks to Ragusa (who also won the King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth Diamond and the Great Voltigeur Stakes), Noblesse and Khalkis (winner of the Eclipse), he became the first Irish-based trainer to be crowned champion in England in 1963, a feat he repeated in 1964 (Ragusa winning the Eclipse, Linacre the Queen Elizabeth 11 Stakes and Hardicanute the Timeform Gold Cup) and 1965 (Meadow Court landing the King George, after finishing second to the great Sea-Bird in the Epsom Derby, and Carlemont the Sussex Stakes).
Was banned (1952) for nearly a year by the Jockey Club stewards - a decision not rubber-stamped by their Irish counterparts - from running horses in England following an inquiry into the running of Blue Sail at Ascot. It was lifted in time for him to launch a blitz on his favourite York meeting which yielded four winners (including Blue Sail) from five runners.
The winner of 22 races at Royal Ascot, he died on June 20th, 1980
Jimmy Fitz,who else could win the Hennessy with a horse pulled up at Market Rasen?
I cant believe the man who is going to send off the favorites for the 2011 Gold Cup and Champion Hurdle isn't mentioned on this thread
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