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As low as 5-1 now but still a bit of 8-1 about.
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If he was half as good as his namesake he'd be 5's on.
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won the derby on tulyar yes..
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-mfordy- = k-nob jockey
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hearts1874 = commoner unable to express itself without being base and vulgar. Revolting.
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Charlie Smirke and Tulyar. That takes me back to when I was a young man. Happy days. Brilliant horse and top class jockey. Both often get overlooked when discussing past greats.
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Smirke, Charles James William (1906 - 1993)
Charlie Smirke was one of the greatest jockeys of all times but never the Champion. Self-assured and unflappable, horses ran sweetly for him, but he was never on such easy terms with his employers. He fell foul of the stewards too and was warned off in 1928 after his mount, and odds on favourite, was left at the post. The stewards relented five years later in the light of the animal's similar behaviour in India. He also missed the seasons of 1941 - 1945 due to war service, but picked up the threads of his career a second time. Smirke was born in Lambeth and apprenticed to Stanley Wootton at Epsom in 1920. In 1922 he was given a retainer by Mr Solomon Joel and in 1926 and 27 by HH the Aga Khan III, whose horses were with Richard Dawson at Whatcombe. Later he moved to the Newmarket trainer Victor Gilpin. His achievements on Windsor Lad brought him back to the attention of the Aga Khan III, and thus to working at the stables of Frank Butters and Alec Head. He also had a retainer at Marcus Marsh's stables after the war. He finally retired in 1959. Important successes: 2000 Guineas My Babu 1948 (J) Palestine 1950 (J) 1000 Guineas Rose Royale II 1957 (J) Derby Windsor Lad 1934 (J) Mahmoud 1936 (J) Tulyar 1952 (J) Hard Ridden 1958 (J) St Leger Windsor Lad 1934 (J) Bahram 1935 (J) Tulyar 1952 (J) Never Say Die 1954 (J) |
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Thats an interesting bit up the top ... Warned off for 5 years because his horse was left at the start !!
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Interesting.
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Hope you have 10-1 or bigger
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why?
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No punter with any sense, experience or knowledge would ask that question.
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i just wondered why you treat everyone with such contempt and disdain and then hope they got a good price about something in the next breath. Strange behaviour.
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I do not - just people like you.
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lol who have you ever helped with your aftertiming, spanking kits, paedo films, 301 tipsters, and maxed out credit cards pmsl
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missed race how did it run
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well done for laying off pre race mfraudy
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unplaced
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I didn`t jbarnes. Why type that when you clearly have no idea how I played?
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ok thanks
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