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35-17 up and 250/1 im having a bit
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eh i've had a tenner on at 240s go Gordy!!!
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feck me they took glasgow east back
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Because the alternative is a return to the likes of john majors government - anything would be better than the tories
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true that and it doesnt say much for Cameron and his cronies when they are really struggling to ditch the most unpopular PM in living memory
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but how, I CANNOT fathom how Labour can get back in....
Do people really believe that only the Conservatives will make public sector cuts - is that it? Do they somehow think that the defecit (Labour caused folks...) won't have to be dealt with under Labour.... Has the financial situation in Greek not been understood over here? To say that those on benefits or immigrants think they'll have a harder time under a Conservative gov may well be true, but are there really enough of those to produce the early results we've seen? These early results are staggering... I know that in some areas the postal vote is as high as 25% - but even so... It's illogical, absoutely baffling... perhaps it's just a nightmare and I'll wake up in a moment (and find the old-style forum back as well) |
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i think people see Cameron and his pals as what they are a bunch of over privaleged toffs that have never given the electorate a clear idea of what they might do to sort the countries problems out, they have no fecking policies ffs, wot is their border policy? what cuts will they make? we dont have a clue
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FD - I don't think ANY party has given a clear outline of what they intend to go - and I'm so sad I read each manifesto..
the Conservatives did explain about public sector freezes and a cap on immigrants and this country's ation on "toffs" never seems to apply to the Labour front bench does it... |
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the tories cant do a fecking thing about immigration, they know it as do the other parties, they say caps but while we are in europe there is no choice, you do remember which party took us into europe dont you?
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the tories
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oh and btw it was Gordy that stopped us joining the euro, which i think will have saved us a lot of money in the next few years, its bad enough bailing out banks, countires the size of spain are another matter.
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I do indeed remember who took us into Europe - I still have nightmares about Maggie Thatcher in that flags of Europe knitted jumper!
I also enraged my father by having a croissant for breakfast and pompously announcing "I went to bed British, but I woke up European!" forgive me lord, I was too young to understand... I am passionately anti-eu now (UKIP forever), but the in all fairness the EU Maggie took us into is very different to the EU Brown seems to support with such fervour. |
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hung parliament FD?
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Whether we joined the euro or not, the crisis in the EU is not going to pass us by.
If we really do fall as hard as Greece - Gordon Brown is not the person I'd want at the helm |
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he didnt support it enough to join the euro, his party supports it and lets not forget BLAIR loved it, Gordon had enough problems without tackling what is undoubtedly a problem, the Tories will have exactly the same problem
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the cons aren't getting as many seats as they expected
arrogant toffs |
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think so usaidit although i have greened up at 1.29 though, Tories doing ok down south but not making the gains they need oop north
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how would any party pull out of europe-it would take years
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yep-in my constituency the tory candidate lived in dewsbury
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i wish the people would get over the idea that we will ever pull out of europe, it is just not going to happen, in an ever changing world of globalisation there is no danger we are going to shut up our borders and pretend the rest of the world isnt there
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u have to laugh at the irony though, if we had a PR system the tories would have wired this already
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UKIP are getting votes and more disturbingly so are the BNP
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how vague a word is change
he's a w@nker |
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the way the EU is going it will simply implode - it can't keep accepting member states who take out more than they put in and that's what's facing them now.
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76 - 76.... times they are a'changing
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its fear that drives people to these parties, fear of change as in the next 20-30 years things are going to change a lot, expect fuel shortages, water shortages, mass immigration, flooding and climate change, as the chinese curse goes we are about to enter interesting times
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there is no way the tories will have a majority, the market is 1.12 fro a hung parliament and isnt fluctuating anymore a clearer picture is unfolding
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And they scraped a recount by 300 votes,how much are these idiots disliked behind a party thats had it so rough.
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tories 124 seats-should be on a lot more by now if they were on course for a majority
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this is taking too long cant we just estimate the rest so i can ge some sleep
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I'm on my last legs too FD.. pricing up today's cards to try and stay awake
still only 15 seats in it |
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i am off, i am pretty sure this is going to be a hung parliament, but other than that i havnt a clue, not sure gordon is dead yet though
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