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brigust1
03 May 10 09:46
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how there was a fast strip of ground up the stands rail at Newmarket yesterday?
All of the races on Saturday were run up the middle so those who walked the course must have thought that was the fastest ground.
Then suddenly after heavy showers a fast strip is discovered up the stands rail when Neil Callan nearly won the 2nd race on Honimiere. After that the 1000 gns was abit of a farce when most of the jockeys stuck up the middle. Even the Guinea's winner trainer told her jockey to race on the stands side if he could and then everything wanted the stands rail after that.

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By:
zilzal1
When: 03 May 10 09:55
Were the rails moved Sat night anyone???
By:
brigust1
When: 03 May 10 09:56
No they were not. That was the first thing I looked for.
By:
ged
When: 03 May 10 10:01
Perhaps because the ground was fresher on the stands side after the first day, when they tended to race middle to far side, partly because the wind was across the course and blowing them that way.
By:
zilzal1
When: 03 May 10 10:02
Then its

A- Time we had readings across the course, esp on wide tracks.

B-Readings after racing

This has become a common theme with festival meetings, look at Ascot,July Course and others for changing the bias from one day to another
By:
swift-tuttle
When: 03 May 10 10:06
it's imponderables like this that makes the game what it is

you want virtual racing? it's there if you want it
By:
brigust1
When: 03 May 10 10:26
Of course no-one wants virtual racing but it seems strange that with all of these runners and jockeys no-one spotted the ground was much faster up the stands rail. It seems all the races on Saturday were run up the middle except for the Oasis Dancer race where they were spread all across the track into 3 different groups. The winner raced almost alone up the middle but drifted to this side late on.
I just find the whole thing very odd.
By:
Facts
When: 03 May 10 10:28
Oasis dancer was so superior to the rest of that field, he could have raced wherever and still 'hosed' up !
By:
unlucky_mike
When: 03 May 10 10:30
This is my theory!

Frosty night, you park you car next to the house, the side nearest to the house is clear because it is near heat, the other side is always frosty, because of no heat.

The heat generated by human bodies may if dried the ground slighty on the rail side, leaving the other side damp and slow.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 03 May 10 10:32
'The heat generated by human bodies....'

:^0
By:
mange
When: 03 May 10 10:36
long johns .....................in the 1st
By:
jonjo
When: 03 May 10 10:37
I wouldn't put it all down to 'luck' Mike if that's an example of your reasoning....
By:
unlucky_mike
When: 03 May 10 10:54
Look, I've put myself up to be shot down, lol..

The loss of body heat on the stand side would warm the atmosphere, which in turn may effect the ground on that side.

Up until a point at Newmarket yesterday they were neck and neck, until they hit the stands, then the stand side went quicker!

See...what the races back.
By:
ged
When: 03 May 10 10:55
aaaaah----buggar
By:
wonby10
When: 03 May 10 10:56
Probably rolled!
By:
pedrobob
When: 03 May 10 10:59
swift-tuttle 03 May 10:06

it's imponderables like this that makes the game what it is

you want virtual racing? it's there if you want it


Whilst I don't like virtual racing, sounds like you do like joke racing, swift-tuttle?. You obviously don't think much of the idea that the best horse should win?
By:
Viagra Man
When: 03 May 10 11:11
Anybody who backed a high drawn horse in yesterdays 1000 Guineas (with the exception of AP punters) needs their head tested.
By:
ribotman
When: 03 May 10 11:24
the evidence was there too see after straw daq's race.

jockeys who tacked over too middle to far side in guineas obviously either saw the bias and ignored it or didn't see it.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 May 10 11:30
Criquette Head saw the bias and told her jockey to stay stands side unless they all went down the middle because she did not want her to race alone. As it was a small group raced stand's side, thankfully the favourite was there. But how could so many top jockeys and trainers get this so badly wrong. The difference wasn't slight, it was massive.
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