st nicholas abbey

Back - potential champion

Lay - overhyped hound

Back, Machine, rest below par.

Word exceptional

can it go on the fast ground is the question??

lay because of the price...........id probably place lay it .....but my laying record is awful

Lay...........far too short a price - dont know how he has come through the winter - aob is a crook - murtagh average/poor jock!

YIP....I am going against him today..... :-)

back it I'd say

murtagh average/poor jock :^0

Good one

how much is he worth backing or laying?

aob a crook alrite though sher theyre all hooky

how many times have we seen hyped up horses getting turned over?kauto gold cup and then imperial commander at anitree.....

place and win cert

I was at Donny when it won and I can't ever remember seeing a horse 'live' with such and impressive turn of foot. I really want to have a big bet on him but think the price is way too low, first time out, question mark on the ground and against quite a few dark horses and improving types.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

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i am in 2 minds,im goin to wait and see what way sna is going in the market..probably best indication...probably more value laying??

Not a betting race.

Too much guesswork.

Save your money.

what is your lay of 2day??

doesnt have to be a back/lay does it?

shirley this is more a back/back something else with a decent price.

The Racing Post are a big cause of the hype, they only sponsor 2 big races per year and they make sure their 'winners' are in the headlines as much as possible.

lay better on softer and will he cope with the dip on firm ground ,
lasy year when he beat elusive pimpernel he looked like a 3yr old against 2 yr olds,
elusive pimpernel looks more the finished article likes the ground and has course winning form,
big ew at 7s elusive.

i think he will get beat as all hyed up horses are beat..most recent dunguib at cheltenham!!was everyones banker supposidly

lay all day i think....hopefully get backed in and then lump on the lay!!!

Who can beat it? the horse has been doing fantastic work on the gallops..and has improved greatly.
It just hasnt been seen yet by the public...
until 3.05 that is.

AOB record in G1s when they have their cobs on horses is outstanding, they rarely leave it behind them

^^ exactly. its a penalty kick...without a goalkeeper!

How is he a hype horse, he destroyed the Craven winner

WARM DOWN

how do you no its been doing good work on the gallops?have u heard word?

I have and im not telling you to bet or lay it, but the words exceptional

@Buff09
Yes,it has done extremley well in its work.
its latest a few days ago,and everyone was impressed.

what did u hear?wer all friends here...

If I had to I'd lay him. He won the Racing Post against horses who were very poor, didn't act on the ground or as in Elusive Pimpernel's case was unsuited by the slow gallop. Although visually impressive, I think that race suited him best. Its a completely different test today and he may well be up to winning it but it wouldn't carry my money. I could be missing the best 5/4 shot of all time but I'll get over it.

@Buff09...i dont live that far away from there.
Thats what i was told mate. the horse worked during the week,and all the AOB team were very impressed,horse 100%.and its times were outstanding.

what about the quick ground but?

They are not worried about the ground.

Just one danger to ST Nicholas Abbey and his name is JOHNNY MURTAGH

Favourite not the only one that's done some sparkling work this week...

When the moneys down for a Ballydoyle inmate they usually oblige!

so whats the advice? Iwant to back a horse a favour strongly but think the price is too low (would have wanted 7/4 or 2-1)

will hate the firm ground imo

Grey I am with YOU.

Dont think a great deal of the man - dont like him either!

Most impressive RP tropohy - but not a brilliant yardstick - all horses change dramatically from 2 to 3 - most improve, some dont improve as much as others -

It may scorch home by many lenghts - but the odds are exceptionally poor value in a field of virtually unknown improvers, so if you take 11/10, you are a bookies delight

Value is lay, lay and lay even more

more good than firm shirley?