El Gran Senor Sangsters best

I though Golden Fleece could have been potentially great

was rodrigo de tirano sangsters

Yeah but he sold him on at the end of his 3 year old season

Not quite the same but

Turtle island heavy ground ace won 94? irish 200 guineas by record 15 lengths

Romanov 3rd in 97 derby i think and won gr2 jockey club stakes? at hq in 98

Turtle got stuffed shortly after the Curragh in the St James Palace back on proper flat racing ground.

His best filly would have been Balanchine, but he sold her after her 2yo career.

didnt she run in maktoum al maktoum colours and win 1000?

Beaten in a photo in the 1000G, won the Oaks and the Irish Derby, not bad for a filly.

Court of honour was useful -think ran well in our derby before winning italian derby?

Revoque was useful too, but not sure scooped any really big pots

Voice of reason 30 Apr 21:29
Court of honour was useful -think ran well in our derby before winning italian derby?

He had much better horses than that vOr

Also think carmine lake was his- who won l'abbaye but think had accident on gallops or something after

Sadlers Wells the daddy.

Not saying they better just reminiscing :-) and filling up the thread lol

Haha :)

The Minstrel not up to much imo, real question is how on earth did Eddery not get the stick for getting El Gran beaten at Epsom that poor old Greville had to put up with 2 years later.

The Minstrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMu7-wL4YMg

The Minstrel, 3 parts brother to Nijinsky, excellent race record pity they dont all battle as hard as that little fellow.

Certainly battled under the Piggott machine gun whip.

They dont ride em like that anymore.