Forums
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Facts
29 Apr 10 11:34
Joined:
Date Joined: 05 May 03
| Topic/replies: 30,831 | Blogger: Facts's blog
Sidney Harris published his book - Horse racing, the Essential Guide To Backing Winners.
Re read it the other day. Very interesting stuff. Any one else read this. Comments ?

Post your reply

Text Format: Table: Smilies:
Forum does not support HTML
Insert Photo
Cancel
Page 1 of 2  •  Previous 1 | 2 | Next
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 44
By:
cardifffc
When: 29 Apr 10 11:35
not read it myself but someone said it was a good read
By:
thebigp
When: 29 Apr 10 11:40
Not read it myself. Would you recomend? I am currently reading Patrick Vietch - enemy number one. Is interesting but feels bit more like diary of his life. Not much info into how he was actually sucessful at gambling. Although understandably he probably doesnt want to give to much of that info away.
By:
infomaniac
When: 29 Apr 10 11:42
They interviewed Veitch on tv and he said he specialized on the flat and basically hard work using form,

of course owning a few and having a bit of inside info never hurt either imo !
By:
MikeWood
When: 29 Apr 10 11:44
Will have a look facts ta.

druids lodge confedercy is a great read also, god knows what bills and laddies traders would make of this lot.

Thanks again.
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 11:46
thebigp

would certainly recommend it.
By:
moongirl3
When: 29 Apr 10 11:46
i remember buying that - total waste of money
By:
MikeWood
When: 29 Apr 10 11:48
moongirl3 29 Apr 11:46


i remember buying that - total waste of money

wat was?
By:
PAULBU
When: 29 Apr 10 11:49
Essential Guide To Backing Winners.
Anybody can back winners. The guy in the betting shop backing every favourite will back plenty of winners. An uninspiring title methinks.
By:
moongirl3
When: 29 Apr 10 11:50
The Sydney Harris book. I got Enemy Number One from the library. I thought that was an awful book- pure self-publicity, narcissism and poorly written.
By:
moongirl3
When: 29 Apr 10 11:52
If you want to read good horse racing books I would recommend Andy Beyer.
By:
CJ
When: 29 Apr 10 11:56
Me too, i don't watch US Racing but much of what he writes is applicable to UK racing. He has a nice blend of maths and words too so all three of his books are very readable.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 29 Apr 10 11:59
sounds like Sydneys methods worked for him. On a scale of 1-10, i rate spending money on this a 0. The information in it is like the ABC of betting....
By:
crouchingtiger1
When: 29 Apr 10 12:00
moongirl3 29 Apr 11:50
The Sydney Harris book. I got Enemy Number One from the library. I thought that was an awful book- pure self-publicity, narcissism and poorly written

Agree entirely. In my view the only reason veitch wrote a book - which incidentally i thought was dreadful - was so that the big mugs who he approached to put on for him knew who he was.

However I'll take my hat off to the guy as a punter he is incredible for many reasons but none more so than his ability to keep one quiet. It absolutely amazes me the discretion is close people have.
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 12:05
Moongirl

Sydney Harris's book reminds a punter what he should be doing!No bad thing in my book.Less than £4 (inc.postage)off Amazon. Not much to lose - to gain a little more insight/confirm own views imo.

Agree with you re Andrew Bayer( Picking Winners) is a good book.
James Quinn is another on US Racing( The New Expert Handicappers). As is Tom Ainslie's - Complete Guide To Thoroughbred Racing

Another good book(UK) is Always Back Winners by Stewart Simpson.
By:
MikeWood
When: 29 Apr 10 12:07
facts is that the one bout top weights in h/caps?

always back winners?
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 12:10
Amongst other things - but yes, that's the one.
By:
infomaniac
When: 29 Apr 10 12:14
George Duffield in 7f races was another good system.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 29 Apr 10 12:14
Value Betting by Mark Coton is about the best I've read.
By:
penzance
When: 29 Apr 10 12:16
quite a while back read one by Alan Potts,descent if I remember
rightly.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 29 Apr 10 12:16
George Duffield, cor! He could ride a finish.
By:
infomaniac
When: 29 Apr 10 12:17
I haven't read any of the above books except The Druids Lodge one,

the only other one I read was Barney Curley's one a few years back.
By:
MikeWood
When: 29 Apr 10 12:19
SOULDANCER 29 Apr 12:14


Value Betting by Mark Coton is about the best I've read.

dirty ew thief he was, great read.
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 12:24
Mark Cotton's book - One Hundred Hints For Better Betting - was a good read too.
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 12:24
Coton
By:
zilzal1
When: 29 Apr 10 12:50
Beyer on speed
By:
Biodiesel
When: 29 Apr 10 12:52
veitch book was a poor read
By:
loper
When: 29 Apr 10 12:54
Isn't Sidney Harris the bloke who advertises the one horse saturday newsletter in the RP?


"have the one bet , watch it win from the comfort of your own armchair, then take the misses out for a slap up meal and have yourself a fat cigar".
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 12:55
did any one read a book about USA Bookmakers in the 1920 to 1945 before they were banned.No sure of the title.
There is a paragraph called the "Speed Boys" it is amazing, I leant it out and as usual it never came back.

The nearest to these pros are the two Black Country Guys,
Gough/Jones amazing and they have the cash to show it.

cubone
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 29 Apr 10 13:03
MikeWood 29 Apr 12:07
facts is that the one bout top weights in h/caps?
always back winners?


That was Always Back Winners, Stewart Simpson.
Didnt read Veitch's book but he'd have to go some to be as unpleasant as this guy
By:
Facts
When: 29 Apr 10 13:09
Ignore his 'personal life' - I agree that's just show off bullsh1t !
The 'system' he used was interesting though
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 13:09
I would think the best Pro/Bookie team was
Phil Bull/Willi m Hill.

Ruled for 10 years

Alex Bird was also an Eway Thief.
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 13:12
The question that lasted 20 years was would William hil ll have paid if Tudor Minstrel had won the Derby

cubone
By:
starfish and coffee
When: 29 Apr 10 13:12
As far as I know it was quite influential in its day Facts, and the type of horses he bet on became overbet. But these things go in cycles
By:
ZEALOT
When: 29 Apr 10 13:16
Is that the one that says : only start looking at a horse form when ,
proven on track
jockey/ trainer got good record at the track
trainer in good current form
proven on ground
By:
sparrow
When: 29 Apr 10 13:18
Alex Bird was indeed an each way thief he used to advocate backing the 2nd Favourite each way in maiden races.
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 13:19
sparrow dont forget he was betting at 1/4 odds and getting massive commission on his bets,
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 13:21
to show what Alex was making when the 5% tax was introduced he stopped betting.
By:
sparrow
When: 29 Apr 10 13:22
Lukehart. I did forget that the place odds had changed which makes you wonder how he got the money on.
By:
lukehart
When: 29 Apr 10 13:28
he had over 50 agent getting on and when the 1960 High Street revelation started there were plenty of bookmakers getting a lot of money,
Some times he would back even 3 in a race all Each way.so he was betting big odds on himself.

His surposed 3 1/2% net was on a massive turnover.
Page 1 of 2  •  Previous 1 | 2 | Next
sort by:
Show
per page

Post your reply

Text Format: Table: Smilies:
Forum does not support HTML
Insert Photo
Cancel
‹ back to topics
www.betfair.com