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good work if you can get it imo....
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His dad will be turning in his grave....
Bring back John Pegley....he knew how to shorten one. |
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Geoff Banks is one of about 2 indy books whom the machine has no bearing to what prices he puts on his board, decimal or otherwise.
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Loved him on The Clothes Show.
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i got one of his suits
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6.6 to how much? And was 5/1 hail promenader when it was 5.4 around here. Bets to his own odds, and doesn't give a monkeys what happens on here. certainly doesn't flimp punters and lays considerably bigger bets than you or your pals on here. thanks for tuning in
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He went downhill when he started designing for ASDA...No shame..
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kenny john pegly used to pay us 4 our card 15 years ago played your local pitch and put today 1 over looked 4 your gaff but far 2 many coaches in way
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Shadow,
J.P. was too eager to sell his pitches...cost him bundles. My heart bleeds. |
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kenny j p was a complete eccentric but all in all was a good egg along with dudley roberts lights wiltshire
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Those who tried it should be given some credit
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Shadow,
Nice afternoon on the patio with a bottle of Chablis, sea was like a millpond.....won't last according to forecast. Lots of memories in battle of the ring....Roy Christie, John Power. Stephen Little et all. |
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kenny s little once bet us 40k at5 to 1 jibereen when declan won his comeback race although later in life came back to haunt us
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Shadow,
By coincidence I knew the lad that led Jibereen up at the time (Barry ex stable lads boxing champ), did some good horses at Geoff Lewis's. Mind you every one he took to the races was going to win, remember horse called My Tony won us a few quid. Had it off every August Bank Holiday at Epsom in the early 90's in the Amateur's Derby (Moet & Chandon) with a Spanish amateur riding for John Sutcliffe & Willie Hastings-Bass (3 wins out of 4). Standing dish. Took plenty off Dudley Roberts, ( Colin Webster & The Rabbit (John Henwood). Had good connections in the right yards at Epsom at that time, nearly all moved on now. By the way, hows the crown court case going? |
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kenny they are only going down to post in the court case as for jibereens race some say it was a get up lol john you know the rules henwood another one of the faces did you know long harry who worked with him
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Shadow,
Probably by sight, knew a flapping bookie "Long Dick", stood on the Downs & Trundle Hill fiddling etc.. He had a market stall in Brixton selling toys, kitchen wares and the like, my mum used to buy from him, long while ago though. Had it off big with Aventino (JS jr.) at Newmarket in the 2yo seller, first race on the card. Had to wait for the 3rd. to be run to get paid out. Didn,t have pockets or money belt large enough for the wedge, and it was a hot day. |
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kenny did you ever punt in the shop in the marina
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Shadow,
Had a boat in the Marina, so only used to go in the betting shop to watch races or see results. Bet too big for betting shops. Another story, one morning back in early 90's saw Geoff Lewis wearing his check cap, driving his Merc. with a stable lad in Rottingdean on Brighton race day. Lad goes into small independent betting shop (gone now) in High Street, places bet....follow him to Coral's at Saltdean, then Ladbrokes in Peacehaven. (He had probably already done Beeny's in Woodingdean). Went to the course that afternoon and Lewis's horse hosed up. |
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kenny next time you set sail have a look at a boat called astor london biggest boat on the west berth many a good party held there talking about geoff lewis do you remember thethingaboutis winning at ascot when ile de chepe threw jockey off think it was starkey someone claimed it was done with a laser gun lol
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Shadow,
Was on Ile de Chypre that day (6/1 to 4/1), thought the horse had broken down, ie. broke a shoulder. Knew travelling head lad for GH name of Tony Winsor, he'd throw the rug to a workman after horse had gone down to get to the ring for a decent bet, always followed him in. Biggest Royal Ascot win was on Sikorsky (JS jr.) in the Bessborough ridden by The Shoe. Had to survive a stewards, laid some of it off, enquiry took 15 minutes. Mad house after the Shoe was given the benefit of the doubt, last race trying to collect bundles before everyone left. Only arrived at the course as the Queens Vase was being run, blagged our way in for free, that gave me even more satisfaction than winning a lump. |
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kenny our paths must have crossed who would you say is the biggest punter around your manor
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Shadow,
The quiet ones!....need to keep a low profile these days...easier with BF & others. In the old days it was the likes of Duggie Matthews, Alex Ross, Alex Gorrie (with Penny & John Ff-H), Dodger McC, regulars on the circuit. Like a travelling army on the southern tracks. Used to cost me about 16k expenses from April to November Flat season, in entry fees, hotels, meals, travelling etc. before I won a carrot. Sometimes plot one up for Ayr, Musselbrough, Pontefract or Leicester. Could get plenty on before they realised who I was. Mickey (A-kid) Fletcher sussed me one day, but kept shtumm.....he just followed me in. |
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dodger was a very good pal ov mine tragic what happened you sound like your from the old school the asparugus kid worked in a bar with me and harry maney in benidorm when we were all potless sounds like you have good epsom contacts did you ever meet jacky dyer
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Shadow,
Epsom bookie called Dyer, is it the same? Punted from when I was a kid, had a McLaughlan's postal account when I was 12. My dad encouraged me, said it was good maths. Rode work when I was a skinny 15yo (7stone), got too heavy after a few years and shot up to 6ft.. Didn't fancy the jumps game and preferred a lay-in of a morning. Good education though ! |
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he was a bookie but used to put on for reg a and the rest ov the epsom boys what big punters you know around brighton
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Don't mix with any locals. Only Flat horses, don't do dogs.
Know Alan Spence who had horses with Reg A and was stitched up by Carter.His notoriety was he cleared a £250,000 tote liability with a yankee....was in all the papers. Now lives as a tax exile in SA, but has a large string with Amanda P. & Mark J., plus stud interests. |
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gl kenny if no rain in morning then will be on pitch and put got 2 runners friday and saturday as dodger used to say hope i break level i need the money
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Has spence got something to do with chelsea, vice chairman or something ?
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Shadow,
Good luck, have a nice day. Perhaps you can do me a favour and miss-hit one and break a couple of coach windows. Might stop them parking there. RM, The same, had or has horses named John Terry & Wise Dennis. He's a true blue, through and through. |
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In today's RP Banks is quoted thus:
"If I'm trying to compete with my fractional colleagues, it's a no brainer. They will wipe the floor with me every time" Picture in RP shows the following prices for George Simmons and Banks: 1/3 - 0.33 11/1 - 10.0 33/1 - 33.0 20/1 - 16.0 33/1 - 25.0 14/1 - 14.0 12/1 - 11.0 I do appreciate that it may be to do with the fact that Banks offers E/W and Simmons doesn't but it doesn't look very competitive to the newby racegoer does it? |
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Clothes Horse
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Magyar = good post
Did they actually want it to work ? PMSL at the bandits :) |