how do you find what R4 is on laddies site ?

The official Tattersalls Rule 4 deductions, as applied by all UK bookmakers, are as follows:

a) If the current odds of the non-runner are 1/9 or shorter at the time the non-runner withdraws from the race, then 90p in £/E/$ is deducted (or 90% of winnings)
b) If over 2/11 up to and including 2/17, 85% of winnings deducted
c) If over 1/4 up to and including 1/5, 80% of winnings deducted
d) If over 3/10 up to & including 2/5, 70% of winnings deducted
e) If over 2/5 up to and including 8/15, 65% of winnings deducted
f) If over 8/15 up to and including 8/13, 60% of winnings deducted
g) If over 8/13 up to and including 4/5, 55% of winnings deducted
h) If over 4/5 up to and including 20/21, 50% of winnings deducted
i) If over 20/21 up to and including 6/5, 45% of winnings deducted
j) If over 6/5 up to and including 6/4, 40% of winnings deducted
k) If over 6/4 up to and including 7/4, 35% of winnings deducted
l) If over 7/4 up to and including 9/4, 30% of winnings deducted
m) If over 9/4 up to and including 3/1, 25% of winnings deducted
n) If over 3/1 up to and including 4/1, 20% of winnings deducted
o) If over 4/1 up to and including 11/2, 15% of winnings deducted
p) If over 11/2 up to and including 9/1, 10% of winnings deducted
q) If over 9/1 up to and including 14/1, 5% of winnings deducted
r) If the non-runner is over 14/1 then there is no deduction

There were horses withdrawn at 17.50 and 18.20 from 18.50 at Kelso . Anyway i backed the winner so i will find out.

if its the 650 howard will you let me know please.

yes 6.50 ( 18.50 )

just phoned them , you cant find it on the website , you have to ring up