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Benatom
25 Apr 10 10:33
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Lat week I reported a new technique I had implemented that was going well which provided the following after 20 days

Win Bets 70 37 win and 33 beat 5348 -3300 2048
Lay bets 59 46 beat and 13 won 4600 -2754 1846

I reviewed the laying part and decided that instead of str8 £100 lays and £100 bets , the £100 win bets would stay the same but the lays would be to £300 liability ( my max lay price being 3/1). This would have increased the laying profit to £2574 in the 1st 20 days.

This week's results :-

Win bets 28 : 19 winning and 9 beat £ 2497 - £900 £1597
Lay bets 24 : 16 beaten and 8 won £ £2805 - £2400 £405

After 27 days totals ( inc new laying technique ) £6624

I am trying to work out how to get these selections onto the forum in time to follow.

All the best

P.S. My Maximum betting and laying price is 3/1 and my minimum backing price is 4/6
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Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 10:38 AM BST
I too have implemented a system that has been running for the past month.

I only have one "back" selection per day and they are to £100 level stakes. The results are as follows:-

31 Bets Wins 31 Losers 0

Total Staked £3,100

Returns £127,350

Total Profit £124,250

I too am trying to find a way to get these selections onto the forum before the off but I'm finding it rather difficult.
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 10:42 AM BST
Lay bets 24 : 16 beaten and 8 won £ £2805 - £2400 £405

something not quite right hear.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:08 AM BST
Info ......... Remember I am laying to a liability of £300

Some horses beaten last week were shorties

magic omen @ 11/8,possol @ evens,backstage @ evens,petit robin @ evens and many betweek 6/2 and 2/1

Maths is correct my friend ... be lucky.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:09 AM BST
6/4 .... apologies
Report levelstakes1 April 25, 2010 11:13 AM BST
Dear Mum,
System going well. Please send more dough...!!
Report swift-tuttle April 25, 2010 11:17 AM BST
you are doing this yourself, it is a project of yours, no-one else is involved

well done on your success BUT

you are a weak-willed, attention-seeking rsole
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:20 AM BST
Such cynicism ? Is this a forum to share ideas or just lambast those that have found success ?

I guess you lose and don't believe that profit can be made , with that mental approach your prophecy will be self- forfilling

Be lucky ( you will need it ) .
Report cant pick a winner April 25, 2010 11:22 AM BST
66% strike rate on lays up to 3/1 ???? id give up if i were you.
Report JackS April 25, 2010 11:23 AM BST
Post ya bets ta.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:25 AM BST
Oh Swift my dear fellow

To answer your question

Yep all mine lad , taken some time to develop and fine tune but I am extatic with the results thus far ........ hope you find success .. let me know if you do. I will applaud your efforts.

P.s word of advice .. Leave 3 year old handicaps to the mugs

This advice is free

Take care
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:27 AM BST
cant .. read ?

62 beaten and 21 won

at a maximum of 3/1 , some odds on , many between evens and 2/1 ... do the math
Report JackS April 25, 2010 11:28 AM BST
Post Ya Bets Ta.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 11:29 AM BST
Have you figured out a way of putting these bets up AFTER the race???
Report Haveit April 25, 2010 11:32 AM BST
Benatom, forum hates a winner, that why so much grief. Good luck to ya I say
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:33 AM BST
cheers haveit .. I believe you are correct ...... sad but true
Report JackS April 25, 2010 11:34 AM BST
Post Ya Bets Ta.
Report swift-tuttle April 25, 2010 11:38 AM BST
benatom please give your reason for starting this thread
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 11:42 AM BST
Benatom there are threads like this everyday. So you can understand people treating it with some cynicism. If they didn't they would be morons. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. I for one don't believe everything that people tell me and if someone claims something I want some sort of proof to back up their claims.

So until you come on before a race and put up selections on a regular basis then I too will be a unbeliever.

If true, well done. But as I have proved anyone can come up with such claims.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 11:43 AM BST
JackS - I think your requests are falling on deaf ears.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 11:44 AM BST

swift-tuttle 25 Apr 11:38
benatom please give your reason for starting this thread


I think a request for emails may soon follow.
Report JackS April 25, 2010 11:46 AM BST
Agree Viagra man.

No bet posted. It didn't happen.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:47 AM BST
Yesterday's jack, until my son wakes i cannot spread sheet ( its my age ) But this was the best day of the week for me

I made profit sunday,wed,thurs, broke even friday and saturday was great

130 Petit Robin 1/1 Lay
155 Beat the bell h 4/6 Bet
210 Rusty Red 11/8 Bet
225 Bunce 2/1 Bet
230 Twist Magic 13/8 Lay
335 Alyarf 11/4 Lay
340 Paco Boy 11/10 Bet
440 Green Moon 5/4 Bet
510 Laverre 2/1 Lay
530 Inagh River 2/1 Lay
850 Bakongo 11/10 Bet
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 11:49 AM BST
I had a bad day yesterday,

can you post up today's bets so I too can win please.
Report Haveit April 25, 2010 11:50 AM BST
yeah, worst day of the year for me yesterday.
Report le stelle di mare April 25, 2010 11:52 AM BST
i had a great day yesterday and my system resulted in 100% strike rate.

this game is easy.

100 win on Tarla @ 13/8 only bet.

simples
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 11:55 AM BST
I have changed my mind now,

I too had a great day yesterday but would like to win again today,

could you post up today's bets so I can win again please.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 11:56 AM BST
I bow to your patience le es

I needed a technique that provded more race interest than 1 or 2 a day, I simply get too bored but each to his own. I have an interest in an average of 8 races a day which suits mt pysche better, good luck.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 11:57 AM BST
infomaniac 25 Apr 11:55
I have changed my mind now,

I too had a great day yesterday but would like to win again today,

could you post up today's bets so I can win again please.



:-) Classic
Report le stelle di mare April 25, 2010 11:57 AM BST
wish i had that discipline!

placed bet in the morning as had to go out for family occasion :-(

would probably have lost if i was in all day :0
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 11:58 AM BST
You seem to have missed my posts,

it is understandable :^0
Report JackS April 25, 2010 11:58 AM BST
Any chance of you posting this profitable technique before the race?
Report Lampus April 25, 2010 11:59 AM BST
All the best Benatom
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 11:59 AM BST
thanks
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 12:00 PM BST
le stelle di mare 25 Apr 11:57
wish i had that discipline!

placed bet in the morning as had to go out for family occasion :-(


I think you may have stumbled across something here.

Going to family occassions is the key. I'm now going to take my wife and kids on a family picnic.
Report le stelle di mare April 25, 2010 12:03 PM BST
avoiding all racing may be the key viagara man :-)
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 12:04 PM BST
thanks lampus

that's 2 un cynical types at least ! I live in hope for the rest of humanity
Report big -Al April 25, 2010 12:09 PM BST
benatom,good luck but your "technique" has you backing AND laying hannon unraced 2yos. bunce BET,inagh river LAY..........

how does this work then?
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 12:12 PM BST
a determination of value in the market

remove yourself from horse race knowledge and treat as a financial market
Report Duvauchelle April 25, 2010 12:12 PM BST
Benatom 25 Apr 11:20
Such cynicism ? Is this a forum to share ideas or just lambast those that have found success ?

I agree with Swift Tuttle. What ideas have you actually shared with the forum? All you are trying to do is get the back slapping brigade to give you 3 cheers and a pile of "well done's".
Why not just keep it to yourself?.................oh I forgot you are.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 12:21 PM BST

Benatom 25 Apr 12:12
a determination of value in the market

remove yourself from horse race knowledge and treat as a financial market



How do you determine value with unraced Hannon 2yo's. Is it based on his bad record with 2yo's? Sounds like a hit and hope strategy.
Report Maazaa April 25, 2010 12:35 PM BST
Great work Benatom, you seem to have found a winning solution...not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but any chance you can post up your thoughts before today's races so we can all get on???
Report cant pick a winner April 25, 2010 12:52 PM BST
Benatom 25 Apr 11:27
cant .. read ?
62 beaten and 21 won

This week's results :-

Win bets 28 : 19 winning and 9 beat £ 2497 - £900 £1597
Lay bets 24 : 16 beaten and 8 won £ £2805 - £2400 £405

works out 66% to me......cant you do the maths?
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 1:05 PM BST
16 were beaten , i.e a good result, 8 won a bad result

Depandant on the odds of those beaten ( some evens ) determines the profit. I really is not overly complex my man
Report JackS April 25, 2010 1:10 PM BST
any chance you can post up your thoughtsbefore today's races???
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 1:21 PM BST
This would give him some credibility JackS so I think the chances are very slim.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 1:22 PM BST
Jack, I am working on it ..........

I bet lay a maximum of 1 minute before the off so that is my priority , but leave it with me

Thanks for your interest
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 1:24 PM BST
viagra, for such a cynic you seem remarkably interested... thankyou
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 1:27 PM BST
Benatom, maybe you should be cynical as to why I'm interested.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 1:35 PM BST
I am generally an optimistic possitve chap V

So, no I am sorry, I don't understand you .

Have a good day
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 1:36 PM BST
thanks
Report Crisp77 April 25, 2010 1:37 PM BST
Can't wait for next weeks update.
Report _albuhera_ April 25, 2010 1:37 PM BST
Has anyone already asked you to Post Ya Bets?
Report OVERSEAS April 25, 2010 1:44 PM BST
No posting of bets says it all...GL to you but we see these types of threads everyday...if you are winning then as I say GL to you...but give up on this type of bull..
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 1:58 PM BST
I haven't seen any posts like his one ?

I see a massive amount of threads crticising jockeys, ( pointless imco ) , trainers ( who are all**apparantly ) and abuse for anyone who provides an opnion that proves incorrect. Lots of people cannot make a decision if their life depended on it, but are happy to sit on the sidelines shouting happlily when someone does . It's like going to an under 12's footie match , where parents are , in general, complete idiots. They criticise but offer no help,advice or constructive comments.

Then the under 12's ( who were all gr8 at football but weren't signed because noone saw the talent bar mummy and daddy ) turn up on here and the cycle continues .

Sad is it not ?
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:03 PM BST
Then there are the under 12's who don't play football but tell their parents that they are brilliant at it. Only to be offended when they get asked by Mummy and Daddy to prove it.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:06 PM BST
Barking should be the selection shouldn't it?????
Report OVERSEAS April 25, 2010 2:07 PM BST
Tell us what a good day you had about 6ish......
Report wingy123 April 25, 2010 2:15 PM BST
he laid barking (NAP)
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:22 PM BST
I'll give it a go with Teenage Kicks
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:23 PM BST
Barking a bet
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:26 PM BST
thyne for deploy a bet
Report wingy123 April 25, 2010 2:27 PM BST
was that aftertiming its 2:26 now
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:27 PM BST
heskin a serious jock imco ... big future, gr8 ride on church island yesterday i thought
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:27 PM BST
Easy this game
Report OVERSEAS April 25, 2010 2:27 PM BST
stating your bets (but not whether lay or back) once the race is finished.....you should be ok with that system imo...
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:28 PM BST
if its aly i will say .....er ...... lay
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:30 PM BST
And if its a bkc you will say er back?
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:31 PM BST
Sunsetten a lay
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:31 PM BST
no play viagra
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:32 PM BST
I'm 2/2 BEFORE the race so far - can I open a thread now?
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:35 PM BST
you have my permission

Evan Williams is a trainer that is an enigma to me
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:37 PM BST
Belgique the next one.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:37 PM BST
Back ?

Lay ?

No Play ?
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:39 PM BST
They're all lays
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:39 PM BST
Not so confident on this one but what the heck
Report mange April 25, 2010 2:40 PM BST
i am :)
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:41 PM BST
I fancy Yarra Valley a lot but wouldn't be surprised if the Hannon one improved. Good Luck
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:42 PM BST
No Play for me
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:44 PM BST
6/4 belgique on the track is a joke though
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:45 PM BST
11/8 even !
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:46 PM BST
You should have laid it then.
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:47 PM BST
laying horse @ 2/1 , when ISP is 11/8 not the way forward viagra
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:49 PM BST
So all those short ones you laid were lower on here then?
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:51 PM BST
So after 20 days have you managed to lay 59 horses where the ISP was higher than the Betfair prices?
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 2:53 PM BST
No , generally 5% to 20% higher. Just don't like it when that kind os discrapancy between the live and BF market
Report BJG April 25, 2010 2:54 PM BST
Cheque scent
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 2:55 PM BST
I'll change my "system" now and go for Pistol Basc to win.
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 3:02 PM BST
A great example as to why you shouldn't change your "system"
Report casemoney April 25, 2010 3:04 PM BST
WALOFS
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 3:06 PM BST
next race on interest 340

Just 2 bets so far
Report acassidy72. April 25, 2010 3:41 PM BST
2 aftertimed bets. Are we gonna see 3 ?
Report Benatom April 25, 2010 3:46 PM BST
Laid Honourary Title
Report infomaniac April 25, 2010 3:48 PM BST
Nice move to try and authenticate your other bets :^0
Report acassidy72. April 25, 2010 3:50 PM BST
In the words of Mick Fitzgerald "Well....."
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 4:01 PM BST
Killard Point the selection to lay
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 4:12 PM BST
Sou'Wester the next
Report secretariat April 25, 2010 4:24 PM BST
How can I join?
Report Viagra Man April 25, 2010 4:29 PM BST
Requests for emails expected next week
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