hard question

Nijinsky?

sorry mate try again

Sceptre

Sceptre

its no catch question but it is odds on it will be a fillie

oh so sharp

well done quito first class.

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Relko

Verbotene liebe did it first. It would be tricky to win 4 Classics these days!

Bollo x, was just going to say Sceptre. 1902.

fir those who are surprised it is a filly
1902,, 2000 gns,1000gns, Oaks, and st Leger.

5 points

Disappointing fourth in the Derby though. Did she not win the Lincoln as well?

and you may be further surprised when I say the owner had every penny he had on the horse to win the Lincoln in the same year...20 to 2/1

Was Sceptre in the 'Race of the Century' with Rock Dand and the other one?

Eclipse wasn't it

Rock *Sand ffs

FORMOSA won the same four races as Sceptre in 1868.

But your 'cop out', cubone, is that she only gets 4 and a half points ...

as she Dead-heated in the 2000 Guineas. ;)

Bob Seiver the owner the first Bookmaker to bet race by race (cash)in australia

at the time Ausie Bookies only bet 1st race 2nd race in a double etc.

bad luck onlooker the prize was one of my old clerking books. if seen you would never speak to me again lol

sorry quit i forgot to say he left (Stake) it behind in the lincoln,

Hope the clerking book wasnt one embellished with a Richard the Third Cu.

Yes, tobermory - 1903 Eclipse.

"the other one" - was the winner, Ard Patrick, who had won the Derby in 1902, the year that Sceptre won the other four classics.

Rock Sand won the Triple Crown in that Eclipse year of 1903.

* Ard Patrick carried 10st 2lb when winning the Eclipse.

now now thAT COMES UNDER THE 30 YEAR RULE. WAS

Onlooker - do you have the other runners in that Eclipse?, and was William the Fourth one of them?. If so I have a story.

ty Onlooker , must have been some atmosphere that day :)

Onlooker - was William the Third (but still not sure the race in question was that Eclipse) I believe that William III was owned by Musker, who retained Otto Madden the rider of Ard Patrick. Anyhow a friend of mind has an original telegram from Madden to Musker requesting "would you be in agreement for me to ride Ard Patrick and not William Third".

Have not got the 1903 Calendar to hand, blackbarn - probably in the bottom of a box in the loft.

Wiilliam the Third - was runner-up in the 1901 Derby - and also won the Newmarket Stakes ( mile and a quarter ) in 1901 -
and then - in 1902 ... won The Queen Alexandra ( 2m 6f ) at Royal Ascot - and the Doncaster Cup ( 2m 2f )


Hard to see it reverting to a mile and a quarter for the 1903 Eclipse .... but they ran over all kinds of distances in those days -

although, Madden would have been 'mad' not to choose Ard Patrick in the Eclipse - given the above.

onlooker did william the third also win the ascot gold cup in 1902 @ 2/1

correct, cub - been for a pint, hence delay in answering.